Hi!, in short your code should work.

I think that the join-joined problem is just an interpretation problem.

In pseudo code the background_thread function does:

def background_thread()
  # bla
  print("join?")
  # bla
  print("joined")

When running this function in parallel using threads, you will probably
get a few "join?" first before receiving any "joined?". That is because
the functions are running in parallel.

The order "join?" then "joined" is preserved within a thread but not
preserved globally.

Now, I see another issue in the output (and perhaps you was asking about this one):

join?
join?
myfnc
myfnc
join?
join?
joined.
joined.

So you have 4 "join?" that correspond to the 4 background_thread function calls in threads but only 2 "myfnc" and 2 "joined".

Could be possible that the output is truncated by accident?

I ran the same program and I got a reasonable output (4 "join?", "myfnc" and "joined"):

join?
join?
myfnc
join?
myfnc
join?
joined.
myfnc
joined.
joined.
myfnc
joined.

Another issue that I see is that you are not joining the threads that you spawned (background_thread functions).

I hope that this can guide you to fix or at least narrow the issue.

Thanks,
Martin.


On Mon, Dec 06, 2021 at 12:50:11AM +0100, Johannes Bauer wrote:
Hi there,

I'm a bit confused. In my scenario I a mixing threading with
multiprocessing. Threading by itself would be nice, but for GIL reasons
I need both, unfortunately. I've encountered a weird situation in which
multiprocessing Process()es which are started in a new thread don't
actually start and so they deadlock on join.

I've created a minimal example that demonstrates the issue. I'm running
on x86_64 Linux using Python 3.9.5 (default, May 11 2021, 08:20:37)
([GCC 10.3.0] on linux).

Here's the code:


import time
import multiprocessing
import threading

def myfnc():
        print("myfnc")

def run(result_queue, callback):
        result = callback()
        result_queue.put(result)

def start(fnc):
        def background_thread():
                queue = multiprocessing.Queue()
                proc = multiprocessing.Process(target = run, args = (queue, 
fnc))
                proc.start()
                print("join?")
                proc.join()
                print("joined.")
                result = queue.get()
        threading.Thread(target = background_thread).start()

start(myfnc)
start(myfnc)
start(myfnc)
start(myfnc)
while True:
        time.sleep(1)


What you'll see is that "join?" and "joined." nondeterministically does
*not* appear in pairs. For example:

join?
join?
myfnc
myfnc
join?
join?
joined.
joined.

What's worse is that when this happens and I Ctrl-C out of Python, the
started Thread is still running in the background:

$ ps ax | grep minimal
370167 pts/0    S      0:00 python3 minimal.py
370175 pts/2    S+     0:00 grep minimal

Can someone figure out what is going on there?

Best,
Johannes
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