On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 13:33:54 +0400, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer <arj.pyt...@gmail.com> declaimed the following:
>Popular browsers tell: No internet connection detected. A function that >goes in the same sense. Unless they too are pinging Google.com to check ... > Ah, but WHEN do those browsers report that? When attempting to connect to whatever the default "home" page has been set to? (Mine is configured to use https://www.google.com as the default page -- if my router is down, obviously the browser will time-out waiting for a response from Google, and report "no network"). Pretty much any discovery of "no network" occurs when the application attempts to make a normal connection to some target -- using whatever protocol is normal for that application -- and fails to get a response. ping is not a solution -- it is possible for firewalls to be configured to drop with no response specific packets. A firewall configured to DROP rather than REJECT results in a machine that just "isn't there" to outside poking. That doesn't mean that the network is down -- only that the machine you tried to poke is ignoring you. Also, for a machine freshly booted, with no cache, even pinging Google first requires making contact with a DNS server to ask for Google's IP address. With no network, the DNS look-up will fail before ping even tries to hit Google. Consider that UDP is often used in a "fire and forget" mode -- packets get sent to the network interface for forwarding, but there is no expectation that the transport system will return success/failure packets. For UDP, any such has to be built into the application level protocol(s). TCP, OTOH, /is/ a "connected" protocol expecting to receive ACK/NAK packets for each one it sends out. If it doesn't receive either it will, after some time-out period, declare a broken connection. -- Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN wlfr...@ix.netcom.com http://wlfraed.microdiversity.freeddns.org/ -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list