All right, now let's verify that tk is not there (otherwise it might be
there but corrupted or not loadable for some reason).
Open Windows Explorer and navigate it to the Python directory as I
described in my last message. The navigate to the subdirectory named
"DLLs". If tkinter is installed, there will be a file named
"_tkinter.pyd". If that file is missing, then definitely tk isn't
there. If it is, then it's been installed but something is wrong with
the install.
Probably it won't be there, but it's a good idea to check anyway.
If it's not there, I would suggest installing a different version of
Python. There might be something wrong with the packaging of that
particular version, who knows? And I would try a release with a lower
version if possible, just in case a later one accidentally used some
instruction not compatible with your version of Windows 8 (unlikely, but
just in case it could happen). For example, if you currently have
Python 3.9.10, try Python 3.8.9. The available releases are all here:
https://www.python.org/downloads/windows/
If this works, wonderful! If it does not, I'm out of ideas for the moment.
On 11/11/2022 4:18 PM, darkst...@o2online.de wrote:
Hello,
yes, its a Windows 8.1 with 32 bit. I have found my Installation ordner.
If I type python
** IDLE can't import Tkinter.
Your Python may not configured for TK. **
So I tried this:
>>> import _tkinter
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
ImportError: DLL load failed while importing _tkinter: Das angegebene
Modul wurd
e nicht gefunden.
So I it is a tkinter Problem and I tried this:
>>> import _tkinter
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
ImportError: DLL load failed while importing _tkinter: Das angegebene
Modul wurd
e nicht gefunden.
How can I go gon, to make it work?
*Von:* Thomas Passin <mailto:li...@tompassin.net>
*Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 10. November 2022 03:00
*An:* python-list@python.org <mailto:python-list@python.org>
On 11/9/2022 7:02 PM, darkst...@o2online.de wrote:
> Is there no one who can help?
Is there a reason why you tried to install a 32-bit version? Most
personal computers are 64-bit ones these days. Also, I don't remember if
you are running Windows or not.
One problem for getting help from the list is that there have not been
many details given. "Doesn't start" is not helpful. Are there error
messages displayed on the terminal? How did you try to start it? Does
Python run at all?
A Python installation normally includes a batch file that launches idle.
This batch file may not be on your path for one reason or another. If
so, it would not run when you type "idle" at a command line.
So the first thing to do is to figure out if you have either the Python
program idle.py or idle.pyw, or the batch file idle.bat (for Windows)
On Linux Mint, when I typed "idle" at a terminal, I got this message:
"Command 'idle' not found, but can be installed with:
sudo apt install idle"
So that's how you would get it with that flavor of Linux.
I'm going to walk through what I would probably do if I had the same
problem on Windows (I'm going to assume that you are running Windows).
It's a little long to write out, but not really that hard. Basically,
there are only a few steps:
1. Find your Python installation;
2. Look in the installation location to see if the idle program is there;
3. If it is, try to run it and note any error messages.
First you need to find out where your Python installation is located on
your system disk. If you don't know, one way to find out is to run the
following command in a console window:
where /R %USERPROFILE% python.exe
You may be surprised that there more several ones that you didn't
expect, such as (on my computer):
C:\Users\tom\AppData\Local\Microsoft\WindowsApps\Microsoft.DesktopAppInstaller_8wekyb3d8bbwe\python.exe
It seems that Windows has its own Python installation; that's not the
one you want. You are looking for one that looks like this (with your
own user name, of course, instead of mine):
C:\Users\tom\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python310\python.exe
Appdata\Local\Programs is where Python3 usually gets installed. Now we
know that I have Python 3.10 at
C:\Users\tom\AppData\Local\Programs\Python. You may be using a
different version of Python; if so, just use that version instead.
Idle is normally installed in the directory tree under python. Let's
call the top of that tree %PYTH0N%. On my system, as we see above, that
is C:\Users\tom\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python310. Idle should be at
%PYTHON%\Lib\idlelib
Open Windows explorer, and navigate to that directory. If you have that
directory, then you should be able to run idle. If it doesn't exist,
That's a problem and needs to be fixed, probably by a fresh install of
Python. If it does, you will see the batch file idle.bat. Double-click
it, and idle should run. If it does not, see below.
That's not a convenient way to run idle time after time. Either you
need to get idle on your path, or perhaps it will be available using the
windows Start menu. Check that out by tapping the Windows key, then
typing "idle" (without the quotes). It may be there. But look closely,
for it may be the idle associated with a different version of Python
than the one you want to use. For example, on my system I have Idle in
the Start Menu, but only for Python 3.7 and not Python 3.10 which is the
most recent version I have.
If you double-clicked on the idle batch file but it failed to run, then
you need to get any error messages. You need to run it from a console
so you can see any output. Open a console. you want to run idle using
python and not pythonw (because pythonw will not open a window). So in
the console, type "python " (without quotes but with the space), then
the path to the file.
The path to the file is a lot to type, and it's easier to just drag the
icon for the file (remember, it's idle.py) into the console window.
Press the <ENTER> key and idle should run. If it doesn't, note any
error messages. Then come back here and tell us what they were.
It's possible that the "where" program didn't find your python
installation. That would be because it's installed somewhere outside of
your user tree, like Program Files. You can look again in the entire
disk (assuming it's on the c: drive, which is almost certainly so):
where /R c:\% python.exe
> Von: darkst...@o2online.de
> Gesendet: Freitag, 4. November 2022 15:10
> An: Eryk Sun
> Cc: python-list@python.org
>
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>
>
>
> Yes, there is always the message “modified successfull”, “installed
sucessfully”, but IDLE does’t start. I tried it with the newer Version,
too. Ist 3.11.0 for 32 bit, but it also doesn’t work. Do you have other
suggetions, that it works?
>
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> Von: Eryk Sun
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. November 2022 22:50
> An: darkst...@o2online.de
> Cc: python-list@python.org
>
>
>
>
>
> On 11/3/22, darkst...@o2online.de <darkst...@o2online.de> wrote:
>> Is there a reason, why it is not installed? Its the same check mark
in the
>> installer like IDLE…
>
> Did you try what I suggested? Modify the installation to remove the
> tkinter/IDLE component. Then modify it again to select the component
> to be reinstalled. Also, try to repair the installation. This may
> reset any DLLs or extension modules that were missing or that were the
> wrong version.
>
> Ignore the suggestion from Nithish to install tkinter via pip. tkinter
> is part of the standard library and cannot be installed via pip. There
> is no tkinter package on the Python package index (pypi.org).
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