On 2026-09-21, Martin Schöön <[email protected]> wrote:
> Den 2026-09-21 skrev Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson 
> <[email protected]>:
>> On 9/21/2026 5:17 PM, Martin Schöön wrote:
><snip>
>>> 
>>> Yesterday, however, I encountered a problem that a quick internet
>>> search told me is somewhat common: adding a package to an environment
>>> stalls at the 'solving environment' stage. I found a bunch of rather
>>> different 'fixes'. I have not tried any yet. I think maybe I am doing
>>> environments wrong.
>>> 
><snip>
>>> My thinking now:
>>> 
>>> I should have more rather than fewer environments and make them more
>>> task specific -- avoid 'general purpose' environments to limit the
>>> number of packages in each environment.
>>> 
>>> I have noticed that "conda update whatever" /always/ tells me everything
>>> is up-to-date. This can't be true. Will the procedure of the third
>>> bullet above solve this?
>>> 
>>> No, I have not tried asking any LLM. I hope for some real human advice.
>>> 
>> Dear Martin,
><snip>
>> Have you considered installing the offending package using your opera-
>> ting system package manager instead, if available as such?  There are
>> n+1 [1] Linux package managers, so I leave off any suggestions for the
>> command line tool.
>
> I think this is how most or even all Linux users start with Python. Then,
> after a while you want to use a Python package (or version) not catered
> for by your system package manager...

Indeed. Using the operating system package manager for Python
packages is only feasible if you yourself are creating a package
for that operating system.
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