Greg Stein wrote: > Yeah... we recognize that we could certainly open-source more of our > software. While we've released some stuff > (code.google.com/projects.html), there is a LOT more that we want to
http://code.google.com/projects.html > do. Getting engineers' 20% time to do that has been difficult. > Thankfully, we know how to fix that and got the okay/headcount to make > it happen. (IOW, it isn't a lack of desire, but making it happen) When a company like Google open's sources, this means simply nothing more than: - the software is not critical to their business (e.g. core-software) - the internal resources cannot ensure further development See IBM, SUN and others, which have done the same thing. > But even if we haven't been able to open-source as much code as we'd > like, we *have* been trying to be very supportive of the community. > Between the Summer of Code and direct cash contributions, we've > provided a LOT of support to a large number of open source > organizations. I hope that you invest some time to _organize_ the Open Source Projects. Starting with Python and it's project-structure (e.g. build-process) and documentation (e.g. ensuring standard-terminology is kept, like "class") e.g.: where can I find an UML diagramm of the Python Object Model? Even Ruby has one: http://lazaridis.com/case/lang/ruby/TheRubyObjectModel.png - > And we have a couple other ideas on how to help the open source > community. We're working on it! The open-source-community can help Google, too! E.g.: Google needs an public Issue-Tracking-System. I needed around 30 emails and 2 months until google-groups-support removed a bug which broke(!) existent links to google archives. (cannot find the topic. Simply search your support-archives to see the desaster). With publicity, the team would have removed the bug within one week. > Cheers, > -g And finally: If Mr. van Rossum is now at Google, and Python is essentially a Mr. van Rossum based product, then most possibly the evolution-speed of Python will decrease even more (Google will implement things needed by Google - van Rossum will follow, so simple). I mean, when will this language finally become a _really_ fully Object-Oriented one, with a clean reflective Meta-Model? Thus I can see Python pass this this _simple_ evaluation (which it does not pass in its current implementation): http://lazaridis.com/case/lang/python.html - I have around one year to await. Will see. . -- http://lazaridis.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list