"But the point is, the current situation is not newbie-friendly (I can tell, I am a newbie)"
I will agree to that, as I consider myself still new. _But_, it's a stumbling stone only briefly. Get enough nagging error messages, and you learn and move on. I agree with the grandparent poster that it is a perfect self-documenting thing, as the use of 'self' is pretty obvious. For a language that one can learn in a short time, this is a tempest in a teacup. I'm just trying to disown my several years of Perl. I like PHP too much and have no experience with Python in a CGI environment. So, I'm a little bit confused linguistically. ;-) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list