To clarify: The proposal for Aug 20th is for other events as well as the dojo, lightning talks and the like, followed by the pub. So even if the dojo doesn't happen this time, the event itself is on like Donkey Kong regardless, is my guess.

jonathan hartley wrote:
Hi folks,

The idea of a Python dojo night in London has been suggested. Partially by me.

A venue has been generously offered for the evening of August 20th (see below, emails from the Europython mailing list)

I'm mad keen on the idea. However, I can't be present that night because I'm out of town Aug 18th to 23rd.

Does anyone else feel up to leading the charge? I'd love to pass on what I know, but be warned that I know almost nothing, having gleaned the entirety of my experience of the subject from discussion and examples from Emily Bache at EuroPython last month.

As I understand it, the word 'dojo' is a figurative reference to a martial arts training meetup, to improve one's skills. A coding dojo consists of a hands-on programming exercise, performed as a group. The intent is to choose a problem which is simple enough to allow participants to focus on the process of arriving at the solution, without being overly distracted by the unknowns of the problem domain or any inherent complexities of the resulting code. This makes it an ideal format to learn or hone skills such as:
    + choosing one design over another
    + test-driven development
    + egoless programming
    + evidence-driven debugging
    + no doubt many more

The best one-page description of a coding dojo I have found to date is here:
http://web.cs.wpi.edu/~gpollice/Dojo.html

Your thoughts, objections, and expressions of curiosity are all much appreciated,

   Jonathan

Jonathan Hartley wrote:
Sounds like a fantastic idea, thanks for the prod Nicholas.

Does it make sense to migrate the discussion to the Python UK mailing list?
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk

I'm not well qualified to explain Dojos, but I'll give it a shot. More from me on python-uk, later today...


Nicholas Tollervey wrote:
Guys,

It was good to meet up last night. One of the topics that often came up was "we should make this a more regular event". Jonathan also mentioned organising a "Code Dojo" - I'll let him explain what that'd involve.

So, while the iron is hot: how about a time and place for August..?

Say 7pm, 20th August, starting with a "Code Dojo" / lightning talks followed by the pub at the offices of Fry-IT? (Thanks Peter and Marcus for volunteering these premises for free):

503 Enterprise House
1/2 Hatfields
London SE1 9PG

Comments, suggestions, confirmations..?

Nicholas.

On 10 Jul 2009, at 10:51, Stephen Emslie wrote:

Those at EuroPython in Birmingham showed quite a bit of interest in regular London Python meetups. So while it's is still fresh in all of our minds, lets do a post-convention debriefing at the Old Bank of England pub on Fleet Street next Wednesday.

Ideally, we would like to make this a regular event. We all hope Simon Brunning (or someone else) finds the time to reboot the more official London Python meetups, with talks + sponsored beer & pizza, etc. so the intention here is to provide a relaxed and informal regular meet to drink ale and discuss Python (drinking of ale is optional).

Time: Wednesday 15 July, from 7pm
Venue: Old Bank of England Pub: http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/66/660/

In case you weren't at EuroPython but would like to come, we'll display the usual can of spam to make us identifiable.

Stephen Emslie & Andy Kilner
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