By the way I just saw that the solution I came out with it is what he mentioned in the video. Happy accidents happen after all!
El miércoles, 23 de junio de 2021 a las 2:05:30 UTC+2, Rudi Hammad escribió: > Cool stuff about the morph deformer. I just need something that works > across previous maya version. Thanks for the ref. > About separating the head it simply how I like to my rigs. I used both > method in different production and still prefer the cut out. > > El martes, 22 de junio de 2021 a las 23:12:22 UTC+2, Roy Nieterau escribió: > >> Not an answer to the question, but the separated mesh rig-blendshape >> workflow can be much optimized in Maya 2022 using the new Morph deformer: >> https://youtu.be/Cdow0UVZfBI?t=1605 >> In particular the "partial deformation" around 28:10 he states it and >> starts showing after. :) No need for actual merging of meshes, etc. - >> That's prone to get slow! >> >> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 11:03:11 PM UTC+2 smann wrote: >> >>> Why are you separating the head.. you don't really need to do that >>> technique any more , now that there is the morph deformer... >>> >>> Also, I usually found the performance hit of having a connected head to >>> body with morph targets was never really that bad.. especially if you >>> remove the body components from the blend shape. >>> >>> I'd be curious if the head cutting off is still necessary , and in what >>> cases.. >>> >>> >>> -=s >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 7:22 AM Hannes Delbeke <hannes...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> that's true when it stays separate, but when merging the 2 pieces >>>> together including merging overlapping verts and vert UV, order for those >>>> merged verts can change >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, 22 Jun 2021 at 12:01, Alok Gandhi <alok.ga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Nice! >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 4:30 PM Rudi Hammad <rudih...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Actually I is possible, I did figure out how to do it. If you >>>>>> separate the head from the body, duplicate the head, and then recombine >>>>>> the >>>>>> head to the body, vertex order is preserved. >>>>>> Then you can do a blendshape. I'll probably end up writing a deformer >>>>>> anyway, but that's a nice little trick there. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> El martes, 22 de junio de 2021 a las 12:41:19 UTC+2, >>>>>> hannes...@gmail.com escribió: >>>>>> >>>>>>> match by vert id is impossible in that case because the vert ids >>>>>>> cant ever match, unless you somehow reorder the verts yourself from the >>>>>>> mesh with the most verts(the body) >>>>>>> what i suggest to do instead is match vert by world position, or if >>>>>>> you have unique UVs by UV position. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> get the closest vert, for every vert. and hook them up in a tuple. >>>>>>> then use this to do anything you want. ex transfer skinning. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> i suggest to do this with openmaya because of speed >>>>>>> it will be very slow in pymel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, 22 Jun 2021 at 10:46, Rudi Hammad <rudih...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (so no, meshes whould not have the same number of cvs) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> El martes, 22 de junio de 2021 a las 11:44:57 UTC+2, Rudi Hammad >>>>>>>> escribió: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> yes, i want to have different topologies. The use case would be a >>>>>>>>> rig where you have a mesh cut out of the head for the facial rig, >>>>>>>>> that you >>>>>>>>> blendshape into the full body mesh. So there you have 2 different >>>>>>>>> topologies. In maya you can do a blendshape between different >>>>>>>>> topologies >>>>>>>>> but if the ids don't match you get unwanted results. >>>>>>>>> I can achieve that alternativly wrighting a wrap deformer , but I >>>>>>>>> was wondering by beeing able to match the vertices ids it would be >>>>>>>>> easier. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> R >>>>>>>>> El martes, 22 de junio de 2021 a las 10:46:50 UTC+2, Alok Gandhi >>>>>>>>> escribió: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ok. Btw, I am curious as to how you would transfer the vertex id >>>>>>>>>> for two differing topologies. Can you give some details about >>>>>>>>>> what's different between the two topologies. In any case, I assume >>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>> they have the same number of vertex (otherwise you cannot transfer >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> vertex ids). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 2:05 PM Rudi Hammad <rudih...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It looks similar to maya's transfer attribute tool, but it >>>>>>>>>>> doesn't look to do a vertex id transfer. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> El martes, 22 de junio de 2021 a las 9:53:25 UTC+2, Alok Gandhi >>>>>>>>>>> escribió: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> There was GATOR >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://download.autodesk.com/global/docs/softimage2012/en_us/userguide/index.html?url=files/property8064.htm,topicNumber=d28e458586> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> is Softimage XSI that could handle such cases as yours. I remember >>>>>>>>>>>> vaguely >>>>>>>>>>>> that it was being worked upon in Maya (since the Softimage dev >>>>>>>>>>>> team was >>>>>>>>>>>> merged with the Maya team). I am not sure if it exists in Maya in >>>>>>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>>>>>> form. Maybe someone here has more information and can comment. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 1:15 PM Rudi Hammad <rudih...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That was to nice to be true. So I guess there is no easy way >>>>>>>>>>>>> (or no way at all probably) to transfer the vertices ids between >>>>>>>>>>>>> different >>>>>>>>>>>>> topologies? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> El martes, 22 de junio de 2021 a las 1:10:27 UTC+2, >>>>>>>>>>>>> voidr...@gmail.com escribió: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe you need to have the same topology to transfer the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> vertex order, since you'll need the same number of vtx to copy >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the id to, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> otherwise maya will crash. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 6:57:33 p.m. UTC-4 Rudi Hammad >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> haven't found anything in the search bar and nothing really >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worked for me doing a google search, so I was wondering if it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is possible >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to transfer the vertices ids from one mesh to another with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> topologies. 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