Hello everyone and thanks for your replies.

I think that a better approach for me would be to just start picking
away at some Python code, as opposed to reading books/tutorials/blogs
since evidently I have a problem with those.

What I'm looking for would be easily digestible chunks of real Python
code, preferably <=1000 LOC. I was thinking maybe admin scripts or
small data processing utilities, to cut my teeth on the syntax. Would
anyone know where I can find that?

Thanks,

- Matt

On Aug 23, 1:28 pm, Vicky Twomey-Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Matt,
>
> First of all, welcome. Drop along to meet-ups, it's a great way to chat to
> others on their own experiences.
>
> Good luck,
>
> /// Vicky
>
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> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 1:21 PM, M to the B <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > Thanks Sean.
>
> > I've been thinking about that for a while after I started this thread
> > yesterday. It's true that I find significant whitespace weird. In a
> > way, it does remind me of an unhappy experience writing Pascal and
> > Delphi many moons ago. Likewise, the lack of semi-colons goes against
> > the flow for me - to this day, I terminate lines of shell script with
> > gratuitous semi-colons.
>
> > But I think the biggest roadblock for me is the duality between Python
> > as a language that is used to write machine-readable code on the one
> > hand, and on the other Python as a cause to be advocated for.I think
> > the former is a bit weird but not unmanageably so. The latter is where
> > the irrational element creeps in. There's a lot of people blogging
> > about Python and related topics out there. I understand now that it
> > reminds me of my early experience with Linux. I started using it in 98
> > (Red Hat 5.2!) and I saw it as a very fun thing to play with. But some
> > time thereafter, I started reading Slashdot comments and that's when
> > the conflicting opinions, the competitive snobbery and the trolling
> > sucked the joy out of it for me. I'm not saying that Python folks are
> > like that, but seeing Python as something many people are very
> > opinionated about puts me off.
>
> > So I've a lead for my own problem there: I should try reading more
> > code and fewer comments.
>
> > Thank you.
>
> > - Matt
>
> > On Aug 22, 11:03 pm, Sean O'Donnell <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Hi Matt, and welcome
>
> > > Im not sure if this is what you are looking for, but I ran from python
> > > screaming the first few times I tried it. Significant white-space, it
> > > really annoyed me for a very long time. I think it probably came from
> > > nightmarish experiences with a cobol system I had to work on in college,
> > > it had all sorts of weird rules about what had to start in what column.
>
> > > Python kept cropping up over time as providing nice solutions for
> > > problems I needed to solve, and eventually I overcame the block and
> > > spent enough time with it to become comfortable.
>
> > > I would be curious to hear a little more about the specifics of the
> > > nature of the block. In any case, good luck overcoming the block. (By
> > > the way, I have used Perl in the past, but not Fortran, but if I came
> > > across a problem that it seemed well suited to I would take it for a
> > > spin. I don't consider myself just a Python programmer, only primarily a
> > > python programmer, always choose the right tool for the job, and no one
> > > language is always the right tool).
>
> > > All the best
>
> > > Sean
>
> > > On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 09:28 -0700, M to the B wrote:
>
> > > > Hello,
>
> > > > My name is Matt and I've just joined this group. My reason for joining
> > > > is that I've a question I'd like to ask Python users and I'm based in
> > > > Ireland, so this seems like a reasonable place. I'd like to give a
> > > > quick bit of context first, before getting to said question.
>
> > > > I've been tinkering with computers since I was a kid, and over the
> > > > years I've used a fairly wide selection of languages, from assembly to
> > > > ML, in different capacities and at different levels of proficiency.
> > > > Lately, I've mostly been using Perl at work and while I like Perl for
> > > > letting me do what I want and putting bread on the table, I'm very
> > > > much aware of its drawbacks. It's also getting a bit long in the
> > > > tooth.
> > > > As it happens, one of my colleagues -who is probably on this group- is
> > > > a Python advocate and has convinced me that Python is the language I
> > > > should take up. I've been given useful pointers, I bought a book
> > > > but... I still haven't learned a thing about Python because of a
> > > > stupid mental block when it comes to the language and its users. I
> > > > understand and appreciate that it is wholly irrational and ridiculous
> > > > to be afraid of a programming language and therefore I want to ask:
>
> > > > Has anyone around here overcome similar prejudice before becoming a
> > > > Python user? Or maybe in relation to some other language? If so, I'd
> > > > like to hear about your experience.
>
> > > > I wish to assure you I'm not trolling. In my experience, it's not
> > > > uncommon for programmers and hackers of various stripes to hold
> > > > preconceptions in favour of or against a given language/technology and/
> > > > or its users (would you take up Perl for instance? or FORTRAN?). I'm
> > > > hoping that by asking a large enough set of people, I'll come across
> > > > folks who have managed to expand their horizons in spite of such
> > > > prejudice.
>
> > > > Thank you,
>
> > > > - Matt
>
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