Kent Quirk wrote:
> The thing to realize is that IDLE is a TK application...and so is the
> turtle graphics. They conflict.

Huh? I thought you could run TK apps form IDLE, and indeed that the 
newer IDLE ran the app in separate process, just to avoid this kind of 
problem!

However, IDLE and TkInter have never been all that well supported on 
OS-X, so I agree:

> Consider teaching kids to use a text editor instead of typing things
> into IDLE.

TextWrangler is another freely available option. PyOxide would be great, 
if it's bug-free enough to be generally usable. I haven't checked it out 
for while, nor heard reports. there are also a number of cross-platform 
options: Dr. Python, SPE, etc. I think the SPE developer just got some 
funding to make SPE work better on OS-X, so that's promising.

Also check out PythonCard, which I think includes a version of Turtle 
graphics as well.

-Chris

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