> But we're not. I never use the Terminal with Python. I use WingIDE  
> (can't recommend to beginners because it uses X11). Why should Mac- 
> type beginners have a *less* friendly interface than that?

Because it doesn't come with the system.

> I don't think you're completely entering into the beginner's mindset  
> -- I mean in particular the beginner who is used to the Mac,

Do these people still exist?  This sounds like a 2001-2002 point, back
when most existing Mac users were used to System 7/8/9.

Bill
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