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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dethe Elza
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 1:35 PM
To: Gábor Farkas
Cc: pythonmac-sig@python.org
Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] needed: simple gui toolkit with "japaneseinput" 
support

> > so, is there something simpler? maybe a simple gui toolkit built on cocoa?

> There is a simple GUI toolkit built on Cocoa, it's called PyObjC. 

For particularly large values of "simple", I guess. For those who don't already 
speak Cocoa, PyObjC is annoyingly cumbersome. Using it requires that you 
understand Cocoa enough to know how to read its documentation, understand its 
message model, understand the way it handles object allocation, and be able to 
use Interface Builder. 

I get the impression that for those who've used Cocoa and prefer Python, it's a 
breath of fresh air...but for those who've not been swimming in a vat of Cocoa, 
it's not quite so appetizing.



> There are some efforts at making an even simpler interface, 
> namely PyGUI and Renaissance, but I would recommend you work 
> with PyObjC, build your UI with Interface Builder, and use 
> AppKiDo to supplement Apple's documentation.

Note this goal from the PyGUI documentation page:

"Document the API purely in Python terms, so that the programmer does not need 
to read the documentation for another GUI library, in terms of another 
language, and translate into Python."



        - Kent

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