At 4:32 PM -0700 2008-07-17, Christopher Barker wrote:
Russell E. Owen wrote:
Another option is to use a normal text editor* You lose some interactivity but the powerful editing features may compensate by increasing productivity in other ways.
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I'm still looking  for a modern replacement that I like as well.

Check out Peppy:

http://peppy.flipturn.org/

It's not totally mature yet, but it's under active development:

http://groups.google.com/group/peppy-dev?hl=en

and definitely headed in the right direction.

It'd be great to get some more Mac users on board...

I just gave it a quick try. It's a nice start. It certainly shows off wxPython nicely.

Two things I noticed right off (which I'll report if you think they aren't known already): - If a command key is not recognized then the corresponding letter is entered. That is bad. (For instance cmd-w enters a w!).
- Lots of these message when I did some selecting:
CGContextRestoreGState: invalid context
this may be due to using too old of wx, I suppose.

Also the Find is fine for simple finding, but what do you do for more serious work? I am pretty sure I'd want a real dialog box, or at least visible easily-modified controls, for options such as: "in selection", "whole word", "case sensitive". Unfortunately the lack of that seems to be a conscious design decision, so I have no idea if that's negotiable, much less fixable.

In the long run I'd want find/replace in multiple files, but presumably it's too alpha for that.


Another editor to look at is Eddie. It is lean and fast and gets a lot of the basics right. Unfortunately:
- No tabbed windows
- No user macros
- It has a bug highlighting triple-quoted strings.
- Some of its tools are only for C/C++

So far SubEthaEdit is the most well-rounded alternative to Pepper I've found, but I finally gave up on it and went back to Pepper. I'm hoping that a version of TextMate will eventually come out with more usable undo. If not I may have to learn emacs.

-- Russell
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