I tried this again on Mac OS X 10.5 and found that the Python inside Python.app works as a framework, but python and pythonw do not:
$ /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Resources/Python.app/Contents/MacOS/Python Python 2.7b2+ (trunk:81635, Jun 1 2010, 20:39:42) [GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Inc. build 5465)] on darwin Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> import MacOS >>> MacOS.WMAvailable() True >>> ^D $ which python /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/bin//python $ python Python 2.7b2+ (trunk:81635, Jun 1 2010, 20:39:42) [GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Inc. build 5465)] on darwin Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> import MacOS >>> MacOS.WMAvailable() False >>> ^D $ ls -l /usr/local/bin/python lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 60 Jun 1 20:42 /usr/local/bin/python -> /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/bin/python $ /usr/local/bin/python Python 2.7b2+ (trunk:81635, Jun 1 2010, 20:39:42) [GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Inc. build 5465)] on darwin Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> import MacOS >>> MacOS.WMAvailable() False >>> ^D If I move python2.7 from /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/bin to /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Resources/Python.app/Contents/MacOS/Python, then I can run python2.7 as a framework. So I guess what is happening is that because of the use of posix_spawn in pythonw in Python 2.7, the executable is in /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/bin, instead of inside Python.app, so it doesn't interact appropriately with the window manager. Python 2.6 uses execve in pythonw, so /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Resources/Python.app/Contents/MacOS/Python is the executable, and behaves as a framework. --Michiel. --- On Sun, 5/30/10, Ronald Oussoren <ronaldousso...@mac.com> wrote: > From: Ronald Oussoren <ronaldousso...@mac.com> > Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python 2.7b2 framework install > To: "Michiel de Hoon" <mjldeh...@yahoo.com> > Cc: pythonmac-sig@python.org > Date: Sunday, May 30, 2010, 11:59 AM > > On 30 May, 2010, at 4:00, Michiel de Hoon wrote: > > > Hi everybody, > > > > When I try to install Python as a framework: > > > > ./configure --enable-framework > > make > > make install > > > > then Python gets installed under > /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7, but it > doesn't seem to function as a framework: > > > >>>> import MacOS > >>>> MacOS.WMAvailable() > > False > > Odd. This works for me using a universal build. > > > >>>> > > > > Python 2.6.5 installed as a framework returns True > here. > > > > With Python 2.7b2, my extension module (the MacOSX > backend for matplotlib) doesn't interact correctly with the > window manager; it works fine with Python 2.6.5. > > > > Did anything change in the installation of frameworks > between Python 2.6.5 and 2.7b2? > > The python/pythonw command's got replaced by a slightly > more useful implementation. > > Which version of OSX are you on? > > Ronald > > > > Thanks, > > --Michiel. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig > > unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG > > _______________________________________________ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG