In article <nad-ffa1b0.21415009022...@news.gmane.org>,
 Ned Deily <n...@acm.org> wrote:

> In article <rowen-acaa42.11370509022...@news.gmane.org>,
>  "Russell E. Owen" <ro...@uw.edu> wrote:
> > I suggest you try one of these things:
> > - Use gcc 4.0.1 to build extensions for 32-bit python.org python. That's 
> > what I'm still doing. It requires XCode 3.x.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > - Use gcc 4.2.1 to build extensions for 64-bit python.org python. Two 
> > issues:
> >    - you give up compatibility with MacOS X 10.5.
> >    - The result will not work with ActiveState's Tcl/Tk. Not a problem 
> > for you, but both of these are unacceptable for my code.
> 
> I don't understand what you mean by this.  The python.org 64-/32-bit 
> installers have a deployment target of 10.6 so will only work on 10.6 
> and 10.7 but they should work just fine with ActiveState's Tcl/Tk 8.5.x 
> on 10.6 and 10.7, just not on 10.5.  In fact, the installers are built 
> and tested on systems with A/S Tcl/Tk 8.5.x and are their use is 
> virtually required on 10.6 for any Tkinter applications due to the 
> broken state of the Apple-supplied in Tcl/Tk 8.5.x in 10.6 (the 
> Apple-supplied Tcl/Tk 8.5.x is better in 10.7 but still behind the A/S 
> version wrt critical fixes.)
> 
> http://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk/

Interesting and promising. The reason I thought python.org's 64-bit 
python was strange w.r.t. ActiveState Tcl/Tk is explained in a copy of a 
posting I sent to the matplotlib mailing list 2011-10-12 (appended).

Keven Walzer suggested the following, which now that I reread it does 
not implicate the Python in any way, so I apologize.

> With Tk-Cocoa, typically you see this message when mixing libraries that 
> are linked to the system Tk in /System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework 
> and another installation (typically ActiveTcl) in 
> /Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework. OS X gets confused and crashes with 
> that error message.
> 
> The only solution I've found is by making sure that all of your 
> Tk-linked libraries link to one location or the other. You can do this 
> by running otool -L on the relevant binaries and seeing where things are 
> linked. If you're only seeing this issue now after building matplotlib, 
> then it's logical to assume that matplotlib may have been linked to the 
> wrong library. You can change the linking by running install_name_tool 
> to get matplotlib to point to the correct version of Tk.

His suggestion will almost certainly work, but it seems unfortunate to 
have to run install_name_tool to fix the matplotlib binaries. Perhaps I 
could have hidden the system Tcl/Tk before building matplotlib, but 
again it seems unfortunate to need to do that.

Any idea, perchance, on how to fix the underlying problem?

-- Russell

-----------------------------------

I'm on MacOS X 10.6.8 using 64-bit Python 2.7.2 from python.org (the 
10.6 version) and ActiveState Tcl/Tk 8.5.10.

I would like to build matplotlib 1.1.0 (in fact I'd like to build an 
official binary installer) and am running into problems. The build and 
install goes fine, though with a few odd messages (see appended log). 
But importing pylab rusults in:
objc[1083]: Class TKApplication is implemented in both 
/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Tk and 
/System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Tk. One of the two 
will be used. Which one is undefined.
objc[1083]: Class TKMenu is implemented in both 
/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Tk and 
/System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Tk. One of the two 
will be used. Which one is undefined.
objc[1083]: Class TKContentView is implemented in both 
/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Tk and 
/System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Tk. One of the two 
will be used. Which one is undefined.
objc[1083]: Class TKWindow is implemented in both 
/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Tk and 
/System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Tk. One of the two 
will be used. Which one is undefined.

Any idea how to deal with this? Google turned up others with this 
problem but no obvious solution.

-- Russell

P.S. partial log of build (not install) of matplotlib:

Edit setupext.py to point it to Apple's built-in libraries, plus include 
/usr/local (which doesn't have a lot in it --nothing in lib or includes):
   'darwin' : ['/usr/local', '/usr', '/usr/X11'],

$ python setup.py build
BUILDING MATPLOTLIB
???????????matplotlib: 1.1.0
???????????????python: 2.7.2 (v2.7.2:8527427914a2, Jun 11 2011, 15:22:34)
???????????????????????[GCC 4.2.1 (Apple Inc. build 5666) (dot 3)]
?????????????platform: darwin

REQUIRED DEPENDENCIES
????????????????numpy: 1.6.1
????????????freetype2: found, but unknown version (no pkg-config)

OPTIONAL BACKEND DEPENDENCIES
???????????????libpng: found, but unknown version (no pkg-config)
??????????????Tkinter: Tkinter: version not identified, Tk: 8.5, Tcl: 8.5
?????????????????Gtk+: no
???????????????????????* Building for Gtk+ requires pygtk; you must be 
able
???????????????????????* to "import gtk" in your build/install 
environment
??????Mac OS X native: yes
???????????????????Qt: no
??????????????????Qt4: no
????????????????Cairo: no

OPTIONAL DATE/TIMEZONE DEPENDENCIES
?????????????datetime: present, version unknown
?????????????dateutil: matplotlib will provide
?????????????????pytz: matplotlib will provide
adding pytz

OPTIONAL USETEX DEPENDENCIES
???????????????dvipng: no
??????????ghostscript: /bin/sh: gs: command not found
????????????????latex: no

[Edit setup.cfg to suppress the above messages]
=========================================================================
===
pymods ['pylab']
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'matplotlib.backends.qt4_editor', 'matplotlib.projections', 
'matplotlib.testing', 'matplotlib.testing.jpl_units', 
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'mpl_toolkits.axes_grid', 'mpl_toolkits.axes_grid1', 
'mpl_toolkits.axisartist', 'matplotlib.sphinxext', 'matplotlib.tri', 
'matplotlib.delaunay', 'pytz', 'dateutil', 'dateutil.zoneinfo']
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-I/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-pa
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-I/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/include/python2.7 -c 
src/_macosx.m -o build/temp.macosx-10.6-intel-2.7/src/_macosx.o
src/_macosx.m: In function ?FigureManager_init?:
src/_macosx.m:3755: warning: class 'View' does not implement the 
'NSWindowDelegate' protocol
src/_macosx.m: In function ?FigureManager_init?:
src/_macosx.m:3755: warning: class 'View' does not implement the 
'NSWindowDelegate' protocol

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