> On 12 Oct 2016, at 08:08, Glyph Lefkowitz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 2:26 PM, Ronald Oussoren <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>> BTW. Has anyone experience with using LLDB on Sierra? I’m currently running
>> Sierra in a VM and for some reason LLDB doesn’t appear to work, in an SSH
>> session I cannot start programs at all and on the console a crashing bug in
>> the interpreter exists the interpreter instead of breaking into the
>> debugger. That’s rather annoying when you’re trying to a debug a crash on
>> 10.12 that doesn’t happen on 10.11.
>
> Ever since the introduction of SIP, system-level debugging tools like LLDB
> have worked very poorly for me, even on self-built executables. I don't see
> a difference in its behavior on 10.11 vs. 10.12 though. I can run it on
> `curl` from Homebrew, but not `python`; my guess being that Python is trying
> to dlopen() some SIP-protected thing whereas `curl` is loading only things
> from Homebrew?
>
> If it's a VM, then system integrity is less of a concern; have you tried just
> blanket disabling SIP to see if that improves the situation? I've had some
> luck with other tools (dtrace, mostly) working in that configuration. (I had
> to totally disable SIP though, disabling one flag at a time didn't work.)
I haven’t had problems with SIP on 10.11. This also doesn’t seem to be a SIP
issue, I got the same behavior after disabling SIP.
I did manage to debug on the VM’s console by explicitly running the Python
interpreter inside the framework (Python.app/Contents/MacOS/Python) instead of
the launcher in {sys.prefix}/bin. This doesn’t work in an SSH session though.
That’s a bit annoying, but is workable until I get around to installing sierra
on my main machine.
Ronald
P.S. I’m debugging using a Python.org <http://python.org/> install of
python3.5, not using the /System installation of Python2.7. Using the latter is
asking for problems when working on a package that Apple also ships.
>
> -glyph
>
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