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In T134495#4986303 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134495#4986303>, @Dvorapa wrote: > both pretty good both interior to the other in some aspects. > https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Toolforge/Pywikibot - Should use `/shared/pywikibot/core` (if grid-only <https://github.com/wikimedia/puppet/blob/aec9ccc093f2ba54f88e3d8aad4721732a5a98bd/modules/profile/manifests/toolforge/grid/base.pp#L91>) or `/data/project/shared/pywikibot/core` (works also in k8s, but I very few run bots in k8s...) - Modifying `PYTHONPATH` is evil. There is no guarantee <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T164277> that bash_profile will be loaded at all. (T134495#4078967 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134495#4078967>) - Highly recommend either using venv and/or the pwb.py in the shared nightly clone. - Honestly, some people tell you to modify env vars with .bashrc, some .bash_profile, some .profile, and some .bash_aliases. The outcome? A terrible mess. (My opinion: .bash_aliases should go into .bashrc and .bashrc should be loaded by .profile after testing if the shell is bash; .bash_profile should go into .profile. Keep login shell configuration in .profile and non-login shell configuration in .bashrc) - Doesn't explain T60784#3925224 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T60784#3925224> (Granted, people are very unlikely to hit this bug if they use pywikibot's own scripts, but if some more advanced people start to code their own pywikibot scripts and start adding some print statements, oh, gotta expect some fun...) - `generate_user_files.py` is evil. (my opinion doesn't help does it? admittedly, the script does help newcomers a lot, so, ignore this complaint) - Should seriously stop talking about compat. It ain't supported. - `Setup web-space` is like 4 years outdated. I'd recommend just remove the section. - qcronsub?! Is this toolserver? - Why `h_vmem` when we have `-mem`? - 256MB was default limit... until 3 years ago <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120517> - Should start talking about python3 rather than this aged python2 tl;dr: badly outdated. > https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Toolforge/My_first_Pywikibot_tool - Nice docs on how to access toolforge - Local clone is the only way? This should not be used unless you're developing pywikibot code itself. - The instruction for webpage... while it works, it has nothing to do with pywikibot. - Doesn't even talk about how to submit a job to wither grid or k8s. - And yeah... empty sections tl;dr: nice start, but bad finish, lacking in so much stuffs that should be said. > https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Dvorapa/Toolforge_for_beginners Looking forward to it :) TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134495 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: srodlund, zhuyifei1999 Cc: Wenyi, binbot, Dvorapa, pywikibot-bugs-list, Framawiki, Xephyr826, tom29739, Vaishnav980123, zhuyifei1999, Mattias_Ostmar-WMSE, jayvdb, Aklapper, bd808, Zppix, Urstrulykkr, AndyTan, Zylc, Cpaulf30, 1978Gage2001, aborrero, Ivana_Isadora, Jayprakash12345, Chicocvenancio, Tbscho, MayS, Freddy2001, Mdupont, JJMC89, Avicennasis, srodlund, Luke081515, mys_721tx, Dinoguy1000, Gryllida, -jem-, Dalba, Masti, scfc, Alchimista, coren, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair, chasemp
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