Hi Jason,

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Duan, Zhenzhong
>Subject: RE: [PATCH] intel_iommu: Use the latest fault reasons defined by
>spec
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jason Wang <jasow...@redhat.com>
>>Subject: Re: [PATCH] intel_iommu: Use the latest fault reasons defined by
>>spec
>>
>>On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 4:41 PM Duan, Zhenzhong
>><zhenzhong.d...@intel.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >From: Jason Wang <jasow...@redhat.com>
>>> >Subject: Re: [PATCH] intel_iommu: Use the latest fault reasons defined
>by
>>> >spec
>>> >
>>> >On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 6:25 PM Duan, Zhenzhong
>>> ><zhenzhong.d...@intel.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >> >From: Jason Wang <jasow...@redhat.com>
>>> >> >Subject: Re: [PATCH] intel_iommu: Use the latest fault reasons
>defined
>>by
>>> >> >spec
>>> >> >
>>> >> >On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 12:15 PM Liu, Yi L <yi.l....@intel.com>
>>wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> > From: Duan, Zhenzhong <zhenzhong.d...@intel.com>
>>> >> >> > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2024 11:41 AM
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > >-----Original Message-----
>>> >> >> > >From: Jason Wang <jasow...@redhat.com>
>>> >> >> > >Sent: Monday, May 20, 2024 8:44 AM
>>> >> >> > >To: Duan, Zhenzhong <zhenzhong.d...@intel.com>
>>> >> >> > >Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Liu, Yi L <yi.l....@intel.com>; Peng,
>>> >Chao
>>> >> >P
>>> >> >> > ><chao.p.p...@intel.com>; Yu Zhang
>><yu.c.zh...@linux.intel.com>;
>>> >> >Michael
>>> >> >> > >S. Tsirkin <m...@redhat.com>; Paolo Bonzini
>>> ><pbonz...@redhat.com>;
>>> >> >> > >Richard Henderson <richard.hender...@linaro.org>; Eduardo
>>> >Habkost
>>> >> >> > ><edua...@habkost.net>; Marcel Apfelbaum
>>> >> ><marcel.apfelb...@gmail.com>
>>> >> >> > >Subject: Re: [PATCH] intel_iommu: Use the latest fault reasons
>>> >defined
>>> >> >by
>>> >> >> > >spec
>>> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> > >On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 6:26 PM Zhenzhong Duan
>>> >> >> > ><zhenzhong.d...@intel.com> wrote:
>>> >> >> > >>
>>> >> >> > >> From: Yu Zhang <yu.c.zh...@linux.intel.com>
>>> >> >> > >>
>>> >> >> > >> Currently we use only VTD_FR_PASID_TABLE_INV as fault
>>reason.
>>> >> >> > >> Update with more detailed fault reasons listed in VT-d spec
>>7.2.3.
>>> >> >> > >>
>>> >> >> > >> Signed-off-by: Yu Zhang <yu.c.zh...@linux.intel.com>
>>> >> >> > >> Signed-off-by: Zhenzhong Duan <zhenzhong.d...@intel.com>
>>> >> >> > >> ---
>>> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> > >I wonder if this could be noticed by the guest or not. If yes
>should
>>> >> >> > >we consider starting to add thing like version to vtd emulation
>>code?
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Kernel only dumps the reason like below:
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > DMAR: [DMA Write NO_PASID] Request device [20:00.0] fault
>addr
>>> >> >0x1234600000
>>> >> >> > [fault reason 0x71] SM: Present bit in first-level paging entry is
>>clear
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Yes, guest kernel would notice it as the fault would be injected to
>vm.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> > Maybe bump 1.0 -> 1.1?
>>> >> >> > My understanding version number is only informational and is
>far
>>> >from
>>> >> >> > accurate to mark if a feature supported. Driver should check
>>cap/ecap
>>> >> >> > bits instead.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Should the version ID here be aligned with VT-d spec?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Probably, this might be something that could be noticed by the
>>> >> >management to migration compatibility.
>>> >>
>>> >> Could you elaborate what we need to do for migration compatibility?
>>> >> I see version is already exported so libvirt can query it, see:
>>> >>
>>> >>     DEFINE_PROP_UINT32("version", IntelIOMMUState, version, 0),
>>> >
>>> >It is the Qemu command line parameters not the version of the vmstate.
>>> >
>>> >For example -device intel-iommu,version=3.0
>>> >
>>> >Qemu then knows it should behave as 3.0.
>>>
>>> So you want to bump vtd_vmstate.version?
>>
>>Well, as I said, it's not a direct bumping.
>>
>>>
>>> In fact, this series change intel_iommu property from x-scalable-
>>mode=["on"|"off"]"
>>> to x-scalable-mode=["legacy"|"modern"|"off"]".
>>>
>>> My understanding management app should use same qemu cmdline
>>> in source and destination, so compatibility is already guaranteed even if
>>> we don't bump vtd_vmstate.version.
>>
>>Exactly, so the point is to
>>
>>vtd=3.0, the device works exactly as vtd spec 3.0.
>>vtd=3.3, the device works exactly as vtd spec 3.3.

Yi just found version ID stored in VT-d VER_REG is not aligned with the VT-d 
spec version.
For example, we see a local hw with vtd version 6.0 which is beyond VT-d spec 
version.
We are asking VTD arch, will get back soon.

Or will you plan qemu vVT-d having its own version policy?

Thanks
Zhenzhong

>
>Get your point. But I have some concerns about this:
>1.Exact version matching will bring vast of version check in the code,
>   especially when we support more versions.
>2. There are some missed features before we can update version number to
>3.0,
>    i.e., nested translation, Accessed/Dirty (A/D) bits, 5 level page table, 
> etc.
>3. Some features are removed in future versions, but we still need to
>   implement them for intermediate version,
>   i.e., ExecuteRequested (ER), Advanced Fault Logging, etc.
>
>>
>>When migration to the old qemu, mgmt can specify e.g vtd=3.0 for
>>backward migration compatibility.
>
>Yes, that makes sense for such migration.
>But I'm not sure if there is a real scenario migrating to old qemu,
>why not just update qemu on destination?
>
>Thanks
>Zhenzhong

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