On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 13:56, Andreas Färber <andreas.faer...@web.de> wrote:
> Am 27.03.2012 15:06, schrieb Stefan Hajnoczi:
>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Lee Essen <lee.es...@nowonline.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On 27/03/2012 12:31, Andreas Färber wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Am 27.03.2012 09:23, schrieb Stefan Hajnoczi:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 04:26:27PM +0000, Lee Essen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> libsocket and libxnet are required for base network functionality
>>>>>> used in os_dep.c, qemu-socket.c, qga/commands-posix.c and cutils.c
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Lee Essen<lee.es...@nowonline.co.uk>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>  configure |    1 +
>>>>>>  1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/configure b/configure
>>>>>> index 8b4e3c1..152adaa 100755
>>>>>> --- a/configure
>>>>>> +++ b/configure
>>>>>> @@ -471,6 +471,7 @@ SunOS)
>>>>>>    QEMU_CFLAGS="-D__EXTENSIONS__ $QEMU_CFLAGS"
>>>>>>    QEMU_CFLAGS="-std=gnu99 $QEMU_CFLAGS"
>>>>>>    LIBS="-lsocket -lnsl -lresolv $LIBS"
>>>>>> +  libs_qga="-lsocket -lxnet $lib_qga"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> s/lib_qga/libs_qga/
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW this typo is also present in mingw32 libs_qga, I have sent a patch
>>>>> to fix it.
>>>>>
>>>>> So -lxnet isn't required in plain old LIBS?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's a question of generation AFAIU, I didn't like it either. By using
>>>> the old libs, then due to Solaris' backwards compatibility we are able
>>>> to run them on older Solaris versions in theory. We should be using the
>>>> same libs consistently in QEMU, and I don't like double-coding them.
>>>> Those comments were not yet addressed, just as my suggested subject for
>>>> the timer patch and the ordering of the patches was deliberately
>>>> ignored. :/ Since my patience is limited, I plan to fix them up myself
>>>> before applying them to my Solaris branch and sending a PULL.
>>>
>>>
>>> <rant>
>>>
>>> What?  I'm trying here ... I don't understand the ordering comment, your
>>> suggestion was about putting more meaningful titles, I've tried to do that.
>>>
>>> Blimey ... this isn't my job, this is my own time ... I'm doing this because
>>> I want to try to make things better and it feels like I'm having to jump
>>> through ever decreasing hoops.
>>>
>>> I'm new to the whole git patch submission thing (as is obviously apparent)
>>> ... so give me a break.
>>>
>>> And let's be clear here ... at the moment there is no support for Solaris,
>>> there are countless fundamental fixes that need to go in before it will even
>>> get close ... let alone thinking about kvm.
>>>
>>> I've tried very hard not to break any other platform, but still I can't even
>>> get a single thing applied.
>>>
>>> </rant>
>>>
>>> Ok, since I'm obviously incapable of providing patches in the right form,
>>> let me know if I can help in any other way. For now I will just maintain a
>>> separate tree.
>>
>> Not sure how the discussion got here.  As far as I'm concerned there's
>> no reason to throw in the towel.
>>
>> Andreas: Were you just stressed out or are you being serious?
>
> Bit of both:
>
> In a SUSE capacity my interest is handling such platform differences in
> a sane, maintainable way. I have pointed out some issues there that we
> might or might not want to do differently there. Pending feedback.
>
> Then in a personal capacity, I get the impression that a felt 50% of my
> comments do not make it into the next patches, especially concerning
> formal and organizational matters. While the MAINTAINER host support
> sections do not list me (they're still new in there), Solaris patches
> have traditionally gone through me, so that is not a particular reaction
> to the contents of form of Lee's patches, I am serious.

I'm a bit surprised about this claim, I think I haven't been aware of
this route. When did Solaris patches go through you, could you name
some? I'm asking because the git log command I sent doesn't show your
name very often.

> I do however not feel qualified for nor am I interested much in
> reviewing KVM-backend patches (yet) for illumos, so I expect
> Avi+Marcello and/or Jan to handle that, which Lee is not cc'ing either.
> The patch submission does not reflect this yet, which had been a core
> point I had implied when requesting how to split up the patch into three
> series.
>
> Concerning the timer, I was expecting review from Paolo, especially
> since I raised the issue of why this was Linux-only. This is a red flag
> for me, since it would indicate that Darwin, BSDs, Win32, Haiku do not
> have it - possibly because no one noticed, as seen elsewhere in the code
> where for, e.g., pty we have insane lists of BSD variants all added
> individually and applied by Blue despite my criticism instead of having
> it fixed in a better way - so history shows if we don't fix it right
> away, it will always be extended and never fixed properly, that's why
> I'm pressing on this where today it was just Linux and now Sun/Solaris.

What would be the proper way? For example, we have hw/usb/host-linux.c
and hw/usb/host-linux.c, should we have pty-linux.c etc, though the
files would be a few lines each? Could all #ifdeffery be eliminated?

> Again in a personal capacity I am "stressed" by the fact that Lee is
> wasting my time with too early and "incomplete" patch resubmissions that
> need to be reviewed and commented on again (copy&paste?), not to mention
> that most of us have other tasks to handle besides his illumos issues.
> If he's ignoring my comments and not looking at previous discussions in
> the archive (e.g., concerning O_ASYNC, for which we had a different
> suggestion previously), why do I spend the time on patch review in the
> first place.
>
> Thus I am looking for a time-efficient way to get things fixed in
> upstream, and if that requires me fixing minor nits myself rather than
> going through hoops with resubmission+review cycles then so be it,
> that's what Signed-off-by and From are for (cf. Jonathan Corbet's
> keynote on issues with Linux kernel contributions at FOSDEM 2011). If
> Lee fixes some more things and becomes a bit more patient with our
> review and testing, that's fine with me as well, as long as at least one
> of us that are around some longer tests the resulting patches and
> verifies that we're not missing a better solution. In particular I want
> to test them on Solaris 10 before Blue (whom he has cc'ed) commits them.

If you became the official maintainer for Solaris host, you could just
send a pull request.

> Andreas

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