On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 09:51:16AM -0400, Peter Xu wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 04:01:57PM +0300, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
> > On 16.09.25 11:28, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 04:18:58PM -0400, Peter Xu wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 10:30:57PM +0300, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > qemu_file_set_blocking() is a wrapper on qio_channel_set_blocking(),
> > > > > so let's passthrough the errp.
> > > > This looks all reasonable in general.
> > > > 
> > > > Said that, using error_abort in migration code normally are not 
> > > > suggested
> > > > because it's too strong.
> > > Note, that prior to this series, the existing qemu_socket_set_nonblock
> > > method that migration is calling will assert on failure. This series
> > > removes that assert and propagates it back to the callers to let them
> > > decide what to do. Ideally they would gracefully handle it, but if
> > > they assert that is no worse than current behaviour.
> > > 
> > 
> > In details, prior to series:
> > 
> > posix + set_nonblock -> crash on failure
> > 
> > other variants (posix/win32 + set_block, win32 + set_nonblock) -> ignore 
> > failure
> 
> Correct, but IIUC that's for sockets only.

True, that'd be the QIOChannelSocket class

> Major channel types that migration cares the most should also include file
> now.  qio_channel_file_set_blocking() also doesn't assert but return a
> failure.

Yep, you're correct that QIOChannelFile won't currently abort.

> > > > I did check all of below should be on the incoming side which is not as
> > > > severe (because killing dest qemu before switchover is normally
> > > > benign). Still, can we switch all below users to error_warn (including 
> > > > the
> > > > one below that may want to error_report_err(), IMHO a warn report is 
> > > > fine
> > > > even for such error)?
> > > IMHO ignoring a failure to change the blocking flag status is not
> > > a warnnig, it is unrecoverable for the migration operation. It
> > > should be possible to propagate the error in some way, but it will
> > > potentially require changes across multiple migration methods to
> > > handle this.
> 
> In most cases I agree.  But still, using error_abort doesn't mean to fail
> migration, but to crash the VM.  We still at least doesn't want to do it on
> src..

Yep, I do agree that it is dangerous to have the error_abort lurking
in there, as it is a trap-door for the future.

> Meanwhile, this could violate things like newly introduced exit-on-error,
> but I agree we used to ignore those, so even if it fails before and didn't
> crash, we could have ignored those errors.. and not reportable to libvirt.
> 
> The ideal way to do is to always fail either src/dst when set blocking
> failed for sure, but yes, it's slightly involved on some paths this patch
> touched.
> 
> So.. I think we can go with this patch, with a sincere wish that it'll
> simply almost never fail.  But then, let's mention that in the commit
> message, (1) this patch only asserts on the dest qemu and only before
> switchover (hence src can still fallback), never src, (2) state the facts
> that it so far is a slight violation to exit-on-error, but it's extremely
> unlikely to happen anyway (NOTE: this is not a programming error that
> normal assertions would do, so it falls into exit-on-error category).

With regards,
Daniel
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