John Snow <[email protected]> writes: > On Wed, Feb 18, 2026 at 3:26 PM Paolo Bonzini <[email protected]> wrote: >> Il mer 18 feb 2026, 18:10 John Snow <[email protected]> ha scritto: >>> On Wed, Feb 18, 2026, 6:48 AM Paolo Bonzini <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Markus Armbruster <[email protected]> writes: >>>> >>>> > John Snow <[email protected]> writes:
[...] >>>> >> My plan: >>>> >> - Wait and see what happens after the current QEMU release >>>> >> - Gleefully drop Ubuntu 22.04 in April (Allows Python 3.11+) >>>> >> - Gleefully drop Debian 12 in June >>>> >> - Hold my breath and see if FreeBSD happens to modernize by this point >>>> >> (They have until October 2027 to do so, so it's a dice roll if they >>>> >> will or not) >>>> >> - Do a big round of Python modernization all at once; either to 3.11 >>>> >> or 3.12 depending, and either to Sphinx 5.x or 7.x depending, pray for >>>> >> forgiveness that I am removing CentOS stream 9's ability to build docs >>>> >> offline so I don't have to wait another six months and then do another >>>> >> big cleanup round >>>> >>>> The main nice features of 3.12 are improved f-strings, which are nice >>>> but not really a necessity. >>>> >>>> If I read it correctly, https://www.freshports.org/lang/python says it >>>> has 3.9 on PPC and 3.11 elsewhere, but >>>> https://www.freshports.org/lang/python311 says 3.11 exists on PPC as well. >>>> >>>> I'd go for 3.11 and Sphinx 7. For FreeBSD we can require Python from >>>> Ports. >>> >>> >>> freebsd ports is currently at 3.11, which is the main reason I am saying >>> "see what freebsd does by June" >>> >>> if they update, we can have Python 3.12 and Sphinx 7.x. If they don't, we >>> get 3.11 and 5.x >> >> >> Why can't we do 3.11 and 7.x, and let freebsd also get sphinx from pypi >> until they update? > > Hm, I guess no reason, beyond my recalcitrance on breaking docs on a > supported build platform unless absolutely necessary. It'd still be my > preference to align with the native distro repo/ports versions if at > all possible, but I suppose if FreeBSD doesn't fix itself by June or > so that we can consider dropping docs support with ports packages at > that time. > > (I think I just have Stockholm Syndrome from arguing for "unnecessary > version bumps to get shiny new toys" and prefer to let those arguments > come from my seniors ... so I stick with very safe changes when at all > possible.) You do. Please consider going to 7.x really, really seriously. >> >> Paolo >> >>> . Both are good jumps, but on the chance I can make the bigger jump, I'd >>> rather do it in one round instead of two. >>> >>>> >>>> Paolo >>>>
