On 02/06/2026 14:37, Fabiano Rosas wrote:

Peter Xu <[email protected]> writes:

On Fri, May 29, 2026 at 01:44:11PM -0300, Fabiano Rosas wrote:
Peter Xu <[email protected]> writes:

On Thu, May 28, 2026 at 07:16:57PM -0300, Fabiano Rosas wrote:
Peter Xu <[email protected]> writes:

QEMU doesn't yet have a good way to specify migration parameters so that
they can be available even during early stage of QEMU boots.  It is because
the migration object (who owns the migration parameters) will only be
created after PHASE_LATE_BACKENDS_CREATED.  It means anything before it
reading migration parameters is illegal.

However, QEMU does have special use cases for such, namely only-migratable
flag, and cpr-transfer. Recently, we have one more possible user to read a
to-be-introduced new migration parameters during backend initialization
phase.  We can introduce yet another global variable (or per-device
parameter) to bypass this limitation, but we can also seek for a generic
solution that we can setup migration parameters very early, even during
backend initializations.

See this discussion for more details on the context of the problem:

   
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lore.kernel.org_r_ahdI7Vl5KraK566D-40x1.local&d=DwIBAg&c=s883GpUCOChKOHiocYtGcg&r=c23RpsaH4D2MKyD3EPJTDa0BAxz6tV8aUJqVSoytEiY&m=RMJscC71rPIaZcWE2xNWeuHeK0qmTkT4jnKXp0AVp4SEa7jlKxLNal50vCx6VIAo&s=MNLWQVZxg7cOInvRx6FinI_ACIiZdt8KJfho82JzKEg&e=

This patch wants to take the latter approach.

As a start, introduce a new way to specify migration parameters in QEMU
boot commandline, as proposed in the above discussion:

   -incoming config:key1=value1,key2=value2,...

When specified, QEMU will parse a string formatted MigrationParameters and
keep it.  When migration object is created, it will apply all the settings
as initial value.

Since the application of boot parameters will be after object_new()
completes, it means it happens after all machine compat properties or
-global settings (which should be done during instance_post_init()).

So far, it's still only a way to specify parameters.  All parameters are
not visible before migration object created, like before.  Any parameter
that needs to be visible during boot will need to opt-in this feature.
Follow up patches will switch the current users to use this model.

Signed-off-by: Peter Xu <[email protected]>
---
  include/migration/misc.h |  5 ++++
  migration/migration.c    | 54 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
  system/vl.c              |  7 ++++++
  qemu-options.hx          | 18 ++++++++++++--
  4 files changed, 82 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/include/migration/misc.h b/include/migration/misc.h
index 3159a5e53c..aff79b1380 100644
--- a/include/migration/misc.h
+++ b/include/migration/misc.h
@@ -133,6 +133,11 @@ bool migrate_is_uri(const char *uri);
  /* Parse @uri and return @channel, returning true on success */
  bool migrate_uri_parse(const char *uri, MigrationChannel **channel,
                         Error **errp);
+/*
+ * Parse @config_str in form of "config:key1=value1,..." to initialize
+ * migration parameters.
+ */
+bool migration_parameters_boot_parse(const char *config_str, Error **errp);

'boot' is not the right word. Maybe 'early'?

I am ok to switch to "early".  Another option is.. "cmdline"?


Either is fine.


  /* migration/multifd-device-state.c */
  typedef struct SaveCompletePrecopyThreadData {
diff --git a/migration/migration.c b/migration/migration.c
index 074d3f2c69..d918be7a44 100644
--- a/migration/migration.c
+++ b/migration/migration.c
@@ -41,6 +41,7 @@
  #include "qapi/qapi-commands-migration.h"
  #include "qapi/qapi-events-migration.h"
  #include "qapi/qmp/qerror.h"
+#include "qapi/qobject-input-visitor.h"
  #include "qobject/qnull.h"
  #include "qemu/rcu.h"
  #include "postcopy-ram.h"
@@ -94,6 +95,9 @@ enum mig_rp_message_type {
  static MigrationState *current_migration;
  static MigrationIncomingState *current_incoming;
+/* Only used during boot, destroyed after migration object initialized */
+static MigrationParameters *mig_boot_params;
+
  static GSList *migration_blockers[MIG_MODE__MAX];
static bool migration_object_check(MigrationState *ms, Error **errp);
@@ -102,6 +106,45 @@ static bool 
stop_return_path_thread_on_source(MigrationState *s);
  static void migration_release_dst_files(MigrationState *ms);
  static void migration_completion_end(MigrationState *s);
+bool migration_parameters_boot_parse(const char *config_str, Error **errp)
+{
+    Visitor *v;
+
+    if (mig_boot_params) {
+        error_setg(errp, "Only one -incoming config:* is allowed.");
+        return false;
+    }
+
+    v = qobject_input_visitor_new_str(config_str, NULL, errp);
+    if (!v) {
+        goto fail;
+    }
+
+    if (!visit_type_MigrationParameters(v, NULL, &mig_boot_params, errp)) {
+        goto fail;
+    }
+
+    visit_free(v);
+    return true;
+
+fail:
+    visit_free(v);
+    return false;
+}
+
+static void migration_parameters_boot_apply(void)
+{
+    if (mig_boot_params) {
+        /*
+         * This can fail, because qobject visitor doesn't do sanity check
+         * on values while parsing.  It's not too late; we're still in boot
+         * phase.
+         */
+        qmp_migrate_set_parameters(mig_boot_params, &error_abort);
+        g_clear_pointer(&mig_boot_params, qapi_free_MigrationParameters);
+    }
+}
+
  static void migration_downtime_start(MigrationState *s)
  {
      trace_vmstate_downtime_checkpoint("src-downtime-start");
@@ -322,6 +365,17 @@ void migration_object_init(void)
current_incoming->exit_on_error = INMIGRATE_DEFAULT_EXIT_ON_ERROR; + /*
+     * Apply boot migration parameters in case the user specified some via
+     * command line "-incoming config:*". NOTE: this will overwrite machine
+     * type compat properties and -global settings!
+     */

Hmm, but then it's exactly the same as -global migration.* ? Why do we
need to extend -incoming?

Also, I don't see how qmp_migrate_set_parameters can overwrite compat
properties. They're not part of MigrationParameters.

Some of this should have been mentioned in my other replies, let me know if
there's still concern over there after reading those.


The question about -global is non-sensical, forget about it.

In this case, after we set current_migration pointer compat properties are
applied, due to instance_post_init() happening within object_new().


Yes, but migration_properties has two distinct sets of Properties, one
contains only compat properties that match machine.c properties and the
other has properties that go into MigrationParameters. I was under the
impression that we never tied compat to parameters.

The only machine compat property that is also a migration parameter I
see is zero-page-detection. Maybe we shouldn't have done that. Now we
can't decouple MigrationParameters from -global. Unless, of course we
declare that from now on compat needs to be done with a new property
that's not part of MigrationParameters; and duplicate
zero-page-detection.

I always treated migration parameters to be a subset of what we can apply
to compat properties in the past.


Good to know.

For example, -global almost works the same as compat properties and also at
the same time, currently both done in device_post_init().

In the future, if your series to convert caps to parameters work, then I
also want to add even more "parameters" (which used to be caps, like
postcopy preempt mode) into lists of machine compat properties, so e.g. we
can enable preempt mode by default.

I hope that makes it useful, but if you still see some benefits of
splitting the two things (compat properties / parameters), let me know.  I
may not have fully caught what you're visioning.


The problem I see is a long-standing one: MigrationParameters needs to
be embedded into MigrationState because of -global (as both compat and
debug feature). As long as that holds, we'll need workarounds such as
having this extra early state.

But let's not make this a problem to be solved in this series, please
disconsider this discussion.

Just to wrap my thoughts, for reference:

What I want is a migration-owned MigrationParameters that we can do
anything with, decoupled from whatever is needed to expose compat
properties. There's two ways to achieve this: One is to declare
parameters are separate from compat and drop the debug usage (what I
suggested in my previous email). The other is to make MigrationState
stop being a QOM object and instead make MigrationParameters itself be a
QOM object. Then we could reference its members directly from qdev.

Is the longer-term goal here to allow machine-versioned usage of all migration parameters supplied via -incoming via -global?




+    migration_parameters_boot_apply();
+
+    /*
+     * The boot parameters should have been verified already, but leave it
+     * after applying boot parameters to do one check for everything.
+     */

Will it get expensive? We do that for every QEMU start.

Checking caps and parameters?  Why expensive?


Just because we're putting more migration code in QEMU's startup
path. Most QEMU invocations don't care about migration. Eventually,
checking every parameter twice might have an impact.

I would expect most QEMU invocations should care about migration, but
irrelevant of that.. I never expected these checks to be expensive.


Well, only a small subset of invocations will actually result in a
migration. There's many uses of QEMU that don't require, or even cannot
migrate.

postcopy_ram_supported_by_host() might be the heaviest, but it's
conditional and I still don't see it an issue. We also don't run any loop.

What made you worry on this?


I don't know. The voices in my head.


Here I should have mentioned we must do one shot check here, because
sometimes there're illegal mixtures of "-incoming config*" and default
values only after they merged together.  I'll update the comment for it,
IOW we must check here anyway.


Right.


      migration_object_check(current_migration, &error_fatal);
ram_mig_init();
diff --git a/system/vl.c b/system/vl.c
index da36b2c6e1..49f5fa0c7b 100644
--- a/system/vl.c
+++ b/system/vl.c
@@ -1838,6 +1838,13 @@ static void incoming_option_parse(const char *str)
if (!strcmp(str, "defer")) {
          channel = NULL;
+    } else if (!strncmp(str, "config:", 7)) {
+        /*
+         * This is not a channel setup, but configuration to incoming
+         * migration parameters to make them available during early boot.
+         */
+        migration_parameters_boot_parse(str + 7, &error_fatal);
+        return;
      } else if (migrate_is_uri(str)) {
          migrate_uri_parse(str, &channel, &error_fatal);
      } else {
diff --git a/qemu-options.hx b/qemu-options.hx
index 96ae41f787..1fc92a409a 100644
--- a/qemu-options.hx
+++ b/qemu-options.hx
@@ -5366,11 +5366,15 @@ DEF("incoming", HAS_ARG, QEMU_OPTION_incoming, \
      "-incoming <channel>\n" \
      "                accept incoming migration on the migration channel\n" \
      "-incoming defer\n" \
-    "                wait for the URI to be specified via migrate_incoming\n",
+    "                wait for the URI to be specified via migrate_incoming\n"
+    "-incoming config:key1=value1,key2=value2,...\n" \
+    "                specify migration parameters valid even during boot\n",
      QEMU_ARCH_ALL)
  SRST
+
  The -incoming option specifies the migration channel for an incoming
-migration.  It may be used multiple times to specify multiple
+migration, or can also be used to setup migration parameters for the
+incoming migration.  It may be used multiple times to specify multiple
  migration channel types.  The channel type is specified in <channel>,
  or is 'main' for all other forms of -incoming.  If multiple -incoming
  options are specified for a channel type, the last one takes precedence.
@@ -5411,6 +5415,16 @@ options are specified for a channel type, the last one 
takes precedence.
      Wait for the URI to be specified via migrate\_incoming. The monitor
      can be used to change settings (such as migration parameters) prior
      to issuing the migrate\_incoming to allow the migration to begin.
+
+``-incoming config:key1=value1[,key2=value2,...]``
+
+    Specify migration parameters in QEMU commandlines, so that these

command line

Fixed.


+    parameters will be available even during very early boot of QEMU.
+    They will be applied properly after QEMU boots and when the migration

The "applied properly" part is implementation detail.

True, I simplified it:

``-incoming config:key1=value1[,key2=value2,...]``

     Specify migration parameters in QEMU command line, so that these
     parameters will be available even during very early boot of QEMU.  It
     has similar effect as setting these parameters using QMP command
     ``migrate-set-parameters`` or HMP command ``migrate_set_parameter``.


ack.


+    core is initialized.  From that POV, it has similar effect as setting
+    these parameters using QMP command ``migrate-set-parameters`` or HMP
+    command ``migrate_set_parameter``.
+
  ERST
DEF("only-migratable", 0, QEMU_OPTION_only_migratable, \


ATB,

Mark.


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