On Mon, 15 Jun 2026, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote:
But embedded MemoryRegions are enormously common, and devices
that embed other devices that embed MemoryRegions are also
pretty common. So I don't know how much of a gradual approach
you could take for the issue descibed in this patch.

Zoltan did post a patch that allowed for adding externally referenced MemoryRegions a while back: my reason for not supporting the approach was because it added yet another way of adding MemoryRegions to work around a particular legacy use case. However if there is agreement that this is the way we should do things, I suspect that the series will have solved most of the problems in this area.

That series was blocked by Paolo saying no: https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2026-05/msg06665.html without ever explaining why it should not be allowed to create ref counted memory regions. even though it's documented and implemented that way already, but the current memory_region_init() functions don't allow using that and forces every memory region to either be embedded or leaked. I still think that using QOM to manage memory region life time with ref counts is useful as it also makes device models simpler and my series allows incremental conversion as it only adds the functions to create QOM managed memory regions leaving the exising embedded regions untouched so they could be converted one by one when needed. If there's more interest in this now I can update and repost it again or I'd still like to see an explanation why it is not wanted.

Regards,
BALATON Zoltan

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