On Mon, Aug 10, 2026 at 11:37:34AM +0300, Kostiantyn Kostiuk wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2026 at 11:20 AM Daniel P. Berrangé <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Aug 10, 2026 at 11:06:27AM +0300, Kostiantyn Kostiuk wrote:
> > > Hi Valentino,
> > >
> > > Sorry for the long delay.
> > > I have a question for you
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2026 at 7:10 PM Valentino Paulon <
> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > So, you propose to call seteuid/setegid before any I/O operation?
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, specifically for the SSH commands, because they're unusual in
> > > > > that we're doing stuff on behalf of an unprivileged user.
> > > >
> > > > +1 on the euid/egid direction -- as the reporter that's the outcome I
> > > > was hoping for. It confines every step (read, mkdir, create, rename,
> > > > chown) to what the target user could already do himself, which removes
> > > > the whole TOCTOU class instead of chasing one instance of it.
> > > >
> > > > A few implementation details that tend to bite with this pattern, in
> > > > case they save a round-trip:
> > > >
> > > > - drop the supplementary groups too, not just egid: initgroups() (or
> > > > setgroups() with the user's list) while still root, otherwise the
> > > > agent's effective access won't match the user's in either direction
> > > >
> > >
> > > Technically, there is no limitation to running QGA in unprivileged mode.
> > > Normally, it is a system daemon, but this is not mandatory.
> > > In this case, we can not call initgroups because the caller must
> > > have CAP_SETGID.
> > > We can call initgroups only when QGA runs as root. What do you think?
> >
> > In any practical sense it is a system daemon given the set of commands
> > it is exposing. Thus, IMHO, deploying as an unprivileged user should
> > be considered a broken deployment. We could make that explicit by
> > refusing to launch.
> >
> 
> Makes sense, but we have one more issue with QGA unit tests in this case.
> They are called by an unprivileged user (build user), and initgroups broke
> it.
> Is it possible to enter the namespace automatically by the test engine?

We can't assume that is possible todo in all build/test environments.

Doing things as different user accounts feels pretty dubious for the
scope of a unit test too - that is really functional or integration
testing.

Can we somehow restructure the tests and/or agent code to avoid the
changing groups stuff in unit tests.

With regards,
Daniel
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