On 10/6/2026 11:46 AM, Yonggang Luo wrote:
> where I do not see it
>

I wonder if list is down, I don't see any new thread on it...

> 
>          此致
> 礼
> 罗勇刚
> Yours
>     sincerely,
> Yonggang Luo
> 
> Pierrick Bouvier <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> 于 2026年10月7日周三 02:30写道:
> 
>     On 10/6/2026 10:31 AM, Pierrick Bouvier wrote:
>     > On 10/6/2026 6:56 AM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
>     >> On Mon, Oct 05, 2026 at 11:52:48AM -0700, Pierrick Bouvier wrote:
>     >>> On 10/5/2026 11:45 AM, Yonggang Luo wrote:
>     >>>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2026 at 2:06 AM Pierrick Bouvier
>     >>>> <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> On 10/5/2026 10:04 AM, Yonggang Luo wrote:
>     >>>>>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2026 at 12:25 AM Pierrick Bouvier
>     >>>>>> <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>     >>>>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>>> Ok, but I'm not sure it answers the why.
>     >>>>>>>>> Could you explain the benefits?
>     >>>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>> Which part? keeping target_arch as SYS_EMU_TARGET__MAX for
>     user-binary because
>     >>>>>>>> The following original code would return -1 for some user-
>     binary
>     >>>>>>>> +    SysEmuTarget arch = target_info()->target_arch;
>     >>>>>>>> +
>     >>>>>>>> +    if (arch == SYS_EMU_TARGET__MAX) {
>     >>>>>>>> +        arch = qapi_enum_parse(&SysEmuTarget_lookup,
>     target_name(), -1,
>     >>>>>>>> +                               &error_abort);
>     >>>>>>>> +    }
>     >>>>>>>> +    return arch;
>     >>>>>>>> So basically assigning any value for the user binary is valid.
>     >>>>>>>> SYS_EMU_TARGET__MAX is more explicit as it's related to
>     type SysEmuTarget.
>     >>>>>>>> -1 is another option but easy to confuse.
>     >>>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>> For why commit e934c624f32f6f44f427d73a2e6a67e983a02ae6.
>     >>>>>>>> "target-info: Statically initialize target_arch"
>     >>>>>>>> doing that, I am not sure.
>     >>>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>> I guess there is a (good or bad) reason for which sub
>     variants of
>     >>>>>>> targets are not reflected in SYS_EMU_TARGET enum. We should
>     double check
>     >>>>>>> that before doing any change, as it might have other
>     consequences.
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> You’re right to ask, and I need to correct my earlier suggestion:
>     >>>>>> leaving user-mode target_arch
>     >>>>>>  as SYS_EMU_TARGET__MAX is not safe. target_aarch64() is used
>     by ARM
>     >>>>>> code shared with user-mode builds,
>     >>>>>> including cpu-max-v8.c, where its result indexes a two-entry
>     array.
>     >>>>>> For aarch64-linux-user, the sentinel could therefore cause an
>     >>>>>> out-of-bounds access during type registration.
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> I checked the distinction: softmmu needs the full system-target
>     >>>>>> identity, including variants such as mipsel;
>     >>>>>> user-mode variants such as aarch64_be use their base TARGET_ARCH
>     >>>>>> (aarch64) for this enum. I’ll keep the full TARGET_SYS_EMU
>     >>>>>>  value for softmmu and use TARGET_ARCH for user-mode builds,
>     rather
>     >>>>>> than leave the field at SYS_EMU_TARGET__MAX.
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> That's technical details, but not an answer to the initial
>     question of
>     >>>>> why we need to change anything for user binaries, compared to
>     what exists.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> The first two patches revert the current static initialization
>     so the
>     >>>> token can be replaced. They are not a user-mode behavior change.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Compared with current QEMU, user-mode still uses TARGET_ARCH.
>     >>>> qemu-mipsel already reports mips, and it still will. Names such as
>     >>>> aarch64_be are not SysEmuTarget values, so user-mode cannot use the
>     >>>> full target name for this field; keeping TARGET_ARCH preserves
>     today's
>     >>>> value and avoids the runtime parse.
>     >>>>
>     >>>
>     >>> Why should we need to expose this precise information?
>     >>> So far, if those targets were not exposed (and aliased to 32/64 bit
>     >>> variant), it's probably we didn't need it.
>     >>
>     >> Current git master is exhibiting a regression compared to previous
>     >> releases.
>     >>
>     >> For example on 10.1.0:
>     >>
>     >> $ for i in /usr/bin/qemu-system-* ; do echo -n "$i: " ; echo -e
>     '{"execute":"qmp_capabilities"}\r\n{"execute":"query-
>     target"}\r\n{"execute":"quit"}\r\n' | $i -qmp stdio -display none -M
>     none | jq .return.arch | grep -v null ; done
>     >> /usr/bin/qemu-system-aarch64: "aarch64"
>     >> /usr/bin/qemu-system-alpha: "alpha"
>     >> /usr/bin/qemu-system-arm: "arm"
>     >> /usr/bin/qemu-system-avr: "avr"
>     >> /usr/bin/qemu-system-hppa: "hppa"
>     >> /usr/bin/qemu-system-i386: "i386"
>     >> /usr/bin/qemu-system-loongarch64: "loongarch64"
>     >> /usr/bin/qemu-system-m68k: "m68k"
>     >> /usr/bin/qemu-system-microblaze: "microblaze"
>     >> /usr/bin/qemu-system-microblazeel: "microblazeel"
>     >> /usr/bin/qemu-system-mips: "mips"
>     >> /usr/bin/qemu-system-mips64: "mips64"
>     >> /usr/bin/qemu-system-mips64el: "mips64el"
>     >> /usr/bin/qemu-system-mipsel: "mipsel"
>     >> /usr/bin/qemu-system-or1k: "or1k"
>     >> /usr/bin/qemu-system-ppc: "ppc"
>     >> /usr/bin/qemu-system-ppc64: "ppc64"
>     >> /usr/bin/qemu-system-riscv32: "riscv32"
>     >> /usr/bin/qemu-system-riscv64: "riscv64"
>     >> /usr/bin/qemu-system-rx: "rx"
>     >> /usr/bin/qemu-system-s390x: "s390x"
>     >> /usr/bin/qemu-system-sh4: "sh4"
>     >> /usr/bin/qemu-system-sh4eb: "sh4eb"
>     >> /usr/bin/qemu-system-sparc: "sparc"
>     >> /usr/bin/qemu-system-sparc64: "sparc64"
>     >> /usr/bin/qemu-system-tricore: "tricore"
>     >> /usr/bin/qemu-system-x86_64: "x86_64"
>     >> /usr/bin/qemu-system-xtensa: "xtensa"
>     >> /usr/bin/qemu-system-xtensaeb: "xtensaeb"
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> but on git master:
>     >>
>     >> $ for i in $(find ./build -type f -name 'qemu-system-*') ; do
>     echo -n "$i: " ; echo -e
>     '{"execute":"qmp_capabilities"}\r\n{"execute":"query-
>     target"}\r\n{"execute":"quit"}\r\n' | $i -qmp stdio -display none -M
>     none | jq .return.arch | grep -v null ; done
>     >> ./build/qemu-system-hexagon: "hexagon"
>     >> ./build/qemu-system-x86_64: "x86_64"
>     >> ./build/qemu-system-s390x: "s390x"
>     >> ./build/qemu-system-m68k: "m68k"
>     >> ./build/qemu-system-xtensa: "xtensa"
>     >> ./build/qemu-system-xtensaeb: "xtensa"
>     >> ./build/qemu-system-rx: "rx"
>     >> ./build/qemu-system-loongarch64: "loongarch64"
>     >> ./build/qemu-system-riscv32: "riscv32"
>     >> ./build/qemu-system-hppa: "hppa"
>     >> ./build/qemu-system-ppc64: "ppc64"
>     >> ./build/qemu-system-microblaze: "microblaze"
>     >> ./build/qemu-system-sparc: "sparc"
>     >> ./build/qemu-system-riscv64: "riscv64"
>     >> ./build/qemu-system-i386: "i386"
>     >> ./build/qemu-system-mipsel: "mips"
>     >> ./build/qemu-system-sh4: "sh4"
>     >> ./build/qemu-system-mips64el: "mips64"
>     >> ./build/qemu-system-mips64: "mips64"
>     >> ./build/qemu-system-sparc64: "sparc64"
>     >> ./build/qemu-system-arm: "arm"
>     >> ./build/qemu-system-tricore: "tricore"
>     >> ./build/qemu-system-mips: "mips"
>     >> ./build/qemu-system-or1k: "or1k"
>     >> ./build/qemu-system-sh4eb: "sh4"
>     >> ./build/qemu-system-aarch64: "aarch64"
>     >> ./build/qemu-system-ppc: "ppc"
>     >> ./build/qemu-system-avr: "avr"
>     >> ./build/qemu-system-alpha: "alpha"
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> so we need to fix that behaviour change for query-target.
>     >>
>     >> If we want to be able to expose only the "base" target,
>     >> then query-target's  QemuTargetInfo struct could be
>     >> extended with a 2nd field that presents the base.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> With regards,
>     >> Daniel
>     >
>     > Thanks for finding this Daniel.
>     > SYS_EMU_TARGET already has the correct variants, the regression was to
>     > use TARGET_ARCH instead of TARGET_NAME in target-info-stub.c.
>     >
>     > I think Richard used this one just because TARGET_NAME is a string, so
>     > it can't be concatenated with C preprocessor.
>     >
>     > I'll fix that part.
>     >
> 
>     Please take a look to the following series that solves this regression,
>     and also allows to detect endianness variants through target_arch():
> 
>     [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>     "[PATCH 0/2] target-info: expose full target variant"
> 
>     Regards,
>     Pierrick
> 


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