On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 06:39:09PM +0200, Stefan Weil wrote: > Am 11.10.2013 09:55, schrieb Stefan Hajnoczi: > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 07:42:30PM +0200, Stefan Weil wrote: > >> Am 10.10.2013 11:39, schrieb Stefan Hajnoczi: > >>> qemu.org is held by a third-party and no core community contributor has > >>> access to the DNS configuration. This leaves the website exposed to > >>> outages due to DNS issues or IP address changes. For example, if the > >>> web server IP address needs to change we cannot guarantee qemu.org will > >>> point to it! > >>> > >>> The newer qemu-project.org domain name is owned by Anthony Liguori > >>> <anth...@codemonkey.ws>. You can confirm this by querying the whois > >>> information. Also note that the #qemu IRC channel topic already > >>> references qemu-project.org. > >>> > >>> Short of having a dedicated legal entity to hold the domain name on > >>> behalf of the community, qemu-project.org seems like the safest bet. > >>> > >>> Let's replace references to qemu.org with qemu-project.org. > >>> > >>> Signed-off-by: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefa...@redhat.com> > >>> --- > >>> This sprang from another email thread where qemu.org URLs were posted. I > >>> realized that there are still many references in the source tree. > >>> > >> I don't like this change. We should strive to get a transfer of qemu.org > >> from the current owner to some respected legal entity in the open source > >> domain, > >> for example FSFE or FSF. > > I have no contact with the current owner of qemu.org and therefore don't > > know if they are willing to transfer it. > > > > Anthony: Any idea? > > > > Stefan > > Hi Stefan, > > I had contacted the owner in the past when there were IP changes or DNS > problems and always had the impression that he was helpful. Therefore I > have sent a mail to him now, too, and asked him whether he would be > willing to transfer the ownership of qemu.org to an organisation. I have > also written to the FSFE and are waiting for both answers now. > > I currently see no urgent need for the patch and strongly suggest to > delay it for the next 4 weeks or maybe until end of October. If we don't > get a positive answer until some deadline, we still can apply the patch > then. > > A new domain which is again privately owned is a bad solution, even if > the owner is a very active QEMU developer. If we have to look for a new > domain name to replace qemu.org, I expect that the new name must be > owned by an organisation like the FSF or FSFE. > > Don't forget that there are lots of other places which refer to > qemu.org, so choosing a new domain name would always be the second best > solution, and we should first try hard to get the best solution!
I'm glad that you and Anthony are investigating avenues to put trademark, domain name, etc into a safe place. Keep in mind that qemu-project.org is already being used in places (e.g. #qemu IRC channel topic). It's not a brand new domain name. The current situation with qemu.org is not a healthy position for an open source project to be in. I hope we can either make progress or switch over to qemu-project.org soon. Stefan