On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:37:10AM +0200, Kevin Wolf wrote: > Am 09.06.2015 um 17:21 hat Eric Blake geschrieben: > > On 06/09/2015 08:48 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote: > > > I guess my @redhat.com email was received directly from Max because I > > > was in CC list. It didn't pass through Mailman. I saw the original, > > > unmodified list of CCs with Kevin included. > > > > > > The @gmail.com email was received from the mailing list. Mailman did > > > what you described. > > > > And that's what makes it so annoying. Original recipients have the full > > list, but later additions to the thread don't know who the original > > recipients were, only that including the list in reply will also reach > > the original recipients (albeit maybe not filtered into the right folder). > > > > I have no idea if mailman has some tweakable setting that can change > > this bad out-of-the-box default of munging cc's that so many lists use, > > but even if it does, it requires a list admin to tweak the setting, for > > each affected list. > > > > > > > > This means I cannot send "Please CC maintainer" emails anymore because > > > I cannot be sure whether the maintainer was CCed! > > > > Well, unless you know the maintainer is one of the people who does NOT > > use the mailman setting of "don't send me duplicate mails" (sadly, we > > have deduced that Kevin does use it, making it harder to tell if he is > > aware of a thread). > > Sorry, I wasn't aware about this behaviour. I thought I had finally > found the one use case where this option actually makes sense, but it > turns out that even if you really want the advertised thing, the option > is useless crap. > > I've fixed my mailman settings and replicated the functionality I really > want in additional email filter rules. Hope I got it right and emails > that I should see won't be disappearing... > > Please let me know if you still see me removed from CC lists.
Thanks! Stefan
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