On Sun, 19 Jun 2016 19:13:17 +0300
Marcel Apfelbaum <mar...@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 06/17/2016 07:07 PM, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> > On 06/17/16 11:52, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> >> On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 11:17:54 +0200
> >> Gerd Hoffmann <kra...@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Fr, 2016-06-17 at 10:43 +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 17/06/2016 10:15, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> >>>>> Larger is a problem if the guest tries to map something to a
> >>>>> high address that's not addressable.
> >>>>
> >>>> Right.  It's not a problem for most emulated PCI devices (it
> >>>> would be a problem for those that have large RAM BARs, but even
> >>>> our emulated video cards do not have 64-bit RAM BARs, I think;
> >>>
> >>> qxl can be configured to have one, try "-device
> >>> qxl-vga,vram64_size_mb=1024"
> >>>
> >>>>>     2) While we have maxmem settings to tell us the top of VM
> >>>>> RAM, do we have anything that tells us the top of IO space?
> >>>>> What happens when we hotplug a PCI card?
> >>>
> >>>> (arch/x86/kernel/setup.c) but I agree that (2) is a blocker.
> >>>
> >>> seabios maps stuff right above ram (possibly with a hole due to
> >>> alignment requirements).
> >>>
> >>> ovmf maps stuff into a 32G-aligned 32G hole.  Which lands at 32G
> >>> and therefore is addressable with 36 bits, unless you have tons
> >>> of ram (> 30G) assigned to your guest.  A physical host machine
> >>> where you can plug in enough ram for such a configuration likely
> >>> has more than 36 physical address lines too ...
> >>>
> >>> qemu checks where the firmware mapped 64bit bars, then adds those
> >>> ranges to the root bus pci resources in the acpi tables
> >>> (see /proc/iomem).
> >>>
> >>>> You don't know how the guest will assign PCI BAR addresses, and
> >>>> as you said there's hotplug too.
> >>>
> >>> Not sure whenever qemu adds some extra space for hotplug to the
> >>> 64bit hole and if so how it calculates the size then.  But the
> >>> guest os should stick to those ranges when configuring hotplugged
> >>> devices.
> >> currently firmware would assign 64-bit BARs after
> >> reserved-memory-end (not sure about ovmf though)
> >
> > OVMF does the same as well. It makes sure that the 64-bit PCI MMIO
> > aperture is located above "etc/reserved-memory-end", if the latter
> > exists.
> >
> >> but QEMU on ACPI side will add 64-bit _CRS only
> >> for firmware mapped devices (i.e. no space reserved for hotplug).
> >> And is I recall correctly ovmf won't map BARs if it doesn't have
> >> a driver for it
> >
> > Yes, that's correct, generally for all UEFI firmware.
> >
> > More precisely, BARs will be allocated and programmed, but the MMIO
> > space decoding bit will not be set (permanently) in the device's
> > command register, if there is no matching driver in the firmware
> > (or in the device's own oprom).
> >
> >> so ACPI tables won't even have a space for not mapped
> >> 64-bit BARs.
> >
> > This used to be true, but that's not the case since
> > <https://github.com/tianocore/edk2/commit/8f35eb92c419>.
> >
> > Namely, specifically for conforming to QEMU's ACPI generator, OVMF
> > *temporarily* enables, as a platform quirk, all PCI devices present
> > in the system, before triggering QEMU to generate the ACPI payload.
> >
> > Thus, nowadays 64-bit BARs work fine with OVMF, both for
> > virtio-modern devices, and assigned physical devices. (This is very
> > easy to test, because, unlike SeaBIOS, the edk2 stuff built into
> > OVMF prefers to allocate 64-bit BARs outside of the 32-bit address
> > space.)
> >
> > Devices behind PXBs are a different story, but Marcel's been looking
> > into that, see
> > <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1323976>.
> >
> >> There was another attempt to reserve more space in _CRS
> >>    https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2016-05/msg00090.html
> >
> > That's actually Marcel's first own patch set for addressing
> > RHBZ#1323976 that I mentioned above (see it linked in
> > <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1323976#c2>).
> >
> > It might have wider effects, but it is entirely motivated, to my
> > knowledge, by PXB. If you don't have extra root bridges, and/or you
> > plug all your devices with 64-bit MMIO BARs into the
> > "main" (default) root bridge, then (I believe) that patch set is
> > not supposed to make any difference. (I could be wrong, it's been a
> > while since I looked at Marcel's work!)
> >
> 
> Patch 3 and 4 indeed are for PXB only. but patch 'pci: reserve 64 bit
> MMIO range for PCI hotplug' (see
> https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2016-05/msg00091.html)
> tries to reserve [above_4g_mem_size, max_addressable_cpu_bits] range
> for PCI hotplug.
it should be [reserved-memory-end, max_addressable_cpu_bits]

> 
> The implementation is not good enough because the number of
> addressable bits is hard-coded. However, we have now David's wrapper
> I can use.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Marcel
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> > Thanks
> > Laszlo
> >
> 


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