On Wed, 2017-03-22 at 15:36 +0100, Laszlo Ersek wrote: > > To my knowledge, currently the bootindex properties cannot be changed > dynamically (for example with monitor commands) after they have been > specified on the QEMU command line.
Yes they can, via QMP: {'execute': 'qom-get', 'arguments': { 'path': 'scsi0.0/child[0]', 'property': 'bootindex' }} {"return": 10} {'execute': 'qom-set', 'arguments': { 'path': 'scsi0.0/child[0]', 'property': 'bootindex', 'value': 11 }} {"return": {}} {'execute': 'qom-get', 'arguments': { 'path': 'scsi0.0/child[0]', 'property': 'bootindex' }} {"return": 11} I have no idea if doing so breaks something, like e.g. migration, but it definitely can be done. > And, even if some settings can be changed, the question is what agent > changes them. If the management layer (libvirt etc) changes them > using > monitor commands, then libvirt itself can keep track of that state, > and > then start the QEMU process on the destination host with a suitably > modified command line. > > Whereas, if it is the guest that changes device state, memory state > etc, > then those things have to be part of the migration stream. True. > > If it > > is, migrating the "bootonceindex" values the same way should > > be sufficient, no? > To my knowledge, "bootindex" properties are not migrated now, and > they > also need not to, because they never change at runtime. Like demonstrated above, they can change, but of course there might be an assumption that they won't change "unexpectedly". > If the second system sets a temporary boot order for the first system > "every now and then", which I guess entails on-demand talking to the > first system's management processor, then how can you replace that > with > a static QEMU command line (with the proposed bootonceindex > property)? I'm not. I'm using QMP to change the index dynamically. > I'm not saying that the use case is without merit. My point is that > this > new property would introduce obscure interactions with other > components > in the virt stack around QEMU, and it could have a significant > maintenance footprint, while the feature does look niche (to me > anyway). Maybe, and it is definitely good to analyze it. Like I already admitted, I did not think about migration at all and there may very well have been other things I have overlooked too.