On 19.04.19 12:23, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
> 17.04.2019 19:22, Max Reitz wrote:
>> On 16.04.19 12:02, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
>>> 10.04.2019 23:20, Max Reitz wrote:
>>>> What bs->file and bs->backing mean depends on the node.  For filter
>>>> nodes, both signify a node that will eventually receive all R/W
>>>> accesses.  For format nodes, bs->file contains metadata and data, and
>>>> bs->backing will not receive writes -- instead, writes are COWed to
>>>> bs->file.  Usually.
>>>>
>>>> In any case, it is not trivial to guess what a child means exactly with
>>>> our currently limited form of expression.  It is better to introduce
>>>> some functions that actually guarantee a meaning:
>>>>
>>>> - bdrv_filtered_cow_child() will return the child that receives requests
>>>>     filtered through COW.  That is, reads may or may not be forwarded
>>>>     (depending on the overlay's allocation status), but writes never go to
>>>>     this child.
>>>>
>>>> - bdrv_filtered_rw_child() will return the child that receives requests
>>>>     filtered through some very plain process.  Reads and writes issued to
>>>>     the parent will go to the child as well (although timing, etc. may be
>>>>     modified).
>>>>
>>>> - All drivers but quorum (but quorum is pretty opaque to the general
>>>>     block layer anyway) always only have one of these children: All read
>>>>     requests must be served from the filtered_rw_child (if it exists), so
>>>>     if there was a filtered_cow_child in addition, it would not receive
>>>>     any requests at all.
>>>>     (The closest here is mirror, where all requests are passed on to the
>>>>     source, but with write-blocking, write requests are "COWed" to the
>>>>     target.  But that just means that the target is a special child that
>>>>     cannot be introspected by the generic block layer functions, and that
>>>>     source is a filtered_rw_child.)
>>>>     Therefore, we can also add bdrv_filtered_child() which returns that
>>>>     one child (or NULL, if there is no filtered child).
>>>>
>>>> Also, many places in the current block layer should be skipping filters
>>>> (all filters or just the ones added implicitly, it depends) when going
>>>> through a block node chain.  They do not do that currently, but this
>>>> patch makes them.
>>>>
>>>> One example for this is qemu-img map, which should skip filters and only
>>>> look at the COW elements in the graph.  The change to iotest 204's
>>>> reference output shows how using blkdebug on top of a COW node used to
>>>> make qemu-img map disregard the rest of the backing chain, but with this
>>>> patch, the allocation in the base image is reported correctly.
>>>>
>>>> Furthermore, a note should be made that sometimes we do want to access
>>>> bs->backing directly.  This is whenever the operation in question is not
>>>> about accessing the COW child, but the "backing" child, be it COW or
>>>> not.  This is the case in functions such as bdrv_open_backing_file() or
>>>> whenever we have to deal with the special behavior of @backing as a
>>>> blockdev option, which is that it does not default to null like all
>>>> other child references do.
>>>>
>>>> Finally, the query functions (query-block and query-named-block-nodes)
>>>> are modified to return any filtered child under "backing", not just
>>>> bs->backing or COW children.  This is so that filters do not interrupt
>>>> the reported backing chain.  This changes the output of iotest 184, as
>>>> the throttled node now appears as a backing child.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Max Reitz <mre...@redhat.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>    qapi/block-core.json           |   4 +
>>>>    include/block/block.h          |   1 +
>>>>    include/block/block_int.h      |  40 +++++--
>>>>    block.c                        | 210 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++------
>>>>    block/backup.c                 |   8 +-
>>>>    block/block-backend.c          |  16 ++-
>>>>    block/commit.c                 |  33 +++---
>>>>    block/io.c                     |  45 ++++---
>>>>    block/mirror.c                 |  21 ++--
>>>>    block/qapi.c                   |  30 +++--
>>>>    block/stream.c                 |  13 +-
>>>>    blockdev.c                     |  88 +++++++++++---
>>>>    migration/block-dirty-bitmap.c |   4 +-
>>>>    nbd/server.c                   |   6 +-
>>>>    qemu-img.c                     |  29 ++---
>>>>    tests/qemu-iotests/184.out     |   7 +-
>>>>    tests/qemu-iotests/204.out     |   1 +
>>>>    17 files changed, 411 insertions(+), 145 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> really huge... didn't you consider conversion file-by-file?
>>
>> Frankly, no, I just didn’t consider it.
>>
>> Hm.  I don’t know, 30-patch series always look so frightening.
>>
>>>> diff --git a/block.c b/block.c
>>>> index 16615bc876..e8f6febda0 100644
>>>> --- a/block.c
>>>> +++ b/block.c
>>>
>>> [..]
>>>
>>>>    
>>>> @@ -3467,14 +3469,17 @@ static int 
>>>> bdrv_reopen_parse_backing(BDRVReopenState *reopen_state,
>>>>        /*
>>>>         * Find the "actual" backing file by skipping all links that point
>>>>         * to an implicit node, if any (e.g. a commit filter node).
>>>> +     * We cannot use any of the bdrv_skip_*() functions here because
>>>> +     * those return the first explicit node, while we are looking for
>>>> +     * its overlay here.
>>>>         */
>>>>        overlay_bs = bs;
>>>> -    while (backing_bs(overlay_bs) && backing_bs(overlay_bs)->implicit) {
>>>> -        overlay_bs = backing_bs(overlay_bs);
>>>> +    while (overlay_bs->backing && bdrv_filtered_bs(overlay_bs)->implicit) 
>>>> {
>>>
>>> So, you don't want to skip implicit filters with 'file' child? Then, why 
>>> not to use
>>> child_bs(overlay_bs->backing), like in following if condition?
>>
>> I think it was an artifact of writing the patch.  I started with
>> bdrv_filtered_bs() and then realized this depends on ->backing,
>> actually.  There was no functional difference so I left it as it was.
>>
>> But you’re right, it is more clear to use child_bs(overlay_bs->backing)
>> isntead.
>>
>>> Could we instead make backing-based filters equal to file-based, to make it 
>>> possible
>>> to use file-based filters in backing-chain related scenarios (like upcoming 
>>> copy-on-read
>>> filter for stream)? So, to expand backing-chain concept to include filters 
>>> with file child?
>>
>> If I understand you correctly, that’s basically the purpose of this
>> series and especially this patch here.  As far as it is possible and
>> reasonable, I want filters that use bs->backing and bs->file behave the
>> same.
>>
>> However, there are cases where this is not possible and
>> bdrv_reopen_parse_backing() is one such case.  bs->backing and bs->file
>> correspond to QAPI names, namely 'backing' and 'file'.  If that
>> distinction was already visible to the user, we cannot change it now.
>>
>> We definitely cannot make file-based filters use bs->backing now because
>> you can create them over QAPI and they use 'file' as their child name.
>> Can we make backing-based filters use bs->file?  Seems more likely,
>> because all of them are implicit nodes, so the user usually doesn’t see
>> them.  But usually isn’t always; they do become user-visible once the
>> user specifies a node-name for mirror or commit.
>>
>> I found it more reasonable to introduce new functions that explicitly
>> express what kind of child they expect and then apply them everywhere as
>> I saw fit, instead of making the mirror/commit filter drivers use
>> bs->file and hope it works; not least because I’d still have to go
>> through the whole block layer and check every instance of bs->backing to
>> see whether it really needs bs->backing or whether it should use either
>> of bs->backing or bs->file.
>>
>>>> +        overlay_bs = bdrv_filtered_bs(overlay_bs);
>>>>        }
>>>>    
>>>>        /* If we want to replace the backing file we need some extra checks 
>>>> */
>>>> -    if (new_backing_bs != backing_bs(overlay_bs)) {
>>>> +    if (new_backing_bs != child_bs(overlay_bs->backing)) { >           /* 
>>>> Check for implicit nodes between bs and its backing file */
>>>>            if (bs != overlay_bs) {
>>>>                error_setg(errp, "Cannot change backing link if '%s' has "
>>>
>>> [..]
>>>
>>>> @@ -4203,8 +4208,8 @@ int bdrv_change_backing_file(BlockDriverState *bs,
>>>>    BlockDriverState *bdrv_find_overlay(BlockDriverState *active,
>>>>                                        BlockDriverState *bs)
>>>>    {
>>>> -    while (active && bs != backing_bs(active)) {
>>>> -        active = backing_bs(active);
>>>> +    while (active && bs != bdrv_filtered_bs(active)) {
>>>
>>> hmm and here you actually support backing-chain with file-child-based 
>>> filters in it..
>>
>> Yes, because this is not about the QAPI 'backing' link.  This function
>> should continue to work even if there are filters in the backing chain.
> 
> this is a generic function to find overlay in backing chain and it may be 
> used from different places,
> for example it is used in Andrey's series about filter for block-stream.

Well, all places that use it accept backing chains with filters inside
of them.

> It is used from qmp_block_commit, isn't it about QAPI?

By "QAPI 'backing' link" I mean the user-visible block graph.  Hm.  I
wrote in my other mail that you could use query-named-block-nodes to see
that graph; apparently you can’t.  So besides x-debug-query-block-graph,
we still don’t have any facility to query the block graph?  I don’t know
what to say.

Anyway, you can still construct the graph with blockdev-add, so it is
user-visible.  And in that block graph, there is a 'backing' link, and
there is a 'file' link -- this is what I mean with "QAPI link".

We have commands that are abstract and don’t work on specific graph
links.  For instance, block-commit commits across a backing chain, so it
doesn’t matter whether the graph link is called 'backing' or whatever,
what is important is that it’s a COW link.  But we should also ignore
filters on the way, so this patch makes block-commit and others use
those more abstract child access functions.

But whenever it is about exactly the "file" or the "backing" link, we
have to use bs->file and bs->backing, respectively.  That's just how it
currently is.

>>>> +        active = bdrv_filtered_bs(active);
>>>>        }
>>>>    
>>>>        return active;
>>>> @@ -4226,11 +4231,11 @@ bool bdrv_is_backing_chain_frozen(BlockDriverState 
>>>> *bs, BlockDriverState *base,
>>>>    {
>>>>        BlockDriverState *i;
>>>>    
>>>> -    for (i = bs; i != base; i = backing_bs(i)) {
>>>> +    for (i = bs; i != base; i = child_bs(i->backing)) {
>>>
>>> and here don't..
>>
>> Yes, because this function is about the QAPI 'backing' link.
> 
> And this again a generic thing, that may be used in same places as 
> bdrv_find_overlay,

But it isn’t.

> and it is used in series about block-stream filter too. So, for further 
> developments
> we'll have to keep in mind all these differences between generic block layer 
> functions,
> which supports .file children inside backing chain and which are not...

I was wrong about bdrv_is_backing_chain_frozen(), if that helps (as I
wrote in my other (previous) mail).

But for example bdrv_set_backing_hd() always has to use bs->backing,
because that’s what it’s about (and I do change its descriptive comment
to reflect that, so you don’t need to keep it in mind).  Same for
bdrv_open_backing_file().

Hm, what other cases are there...

bdrv_reopen_parse_backing(): Fundamentally, this too is about the
user-visible "backing" link (as specified through x-blockdev-reopen).
But the loop it contains is more difficult to translate than I had
thought.  At some point, there needs to be a bs->backing link, because
that is what this function is about, but it should also skip all
implicit filters in the way, I think.  So e.g. this should be recognized:

bs  ---backing-->  COR ---file-->  base

@overlay_bs should be COR, I think...?  I mean, as long as COR is an
implicit node.  So the loop really should use bdrv_filtered_bs()
everywhere, and then the same afterwards.  I think that we should also
ensure that @bs can support a ->backing child, but how would I check
that?  Maybe it’s safe to just omit such a check...

But then another issue comes in: The link to replace (in the above case
from "COR" to "base") is no longer necessarily a backing link.  So
bdrv_reopen_commit() has to be capable of replacing both bs->backing and
bs->file.

Actually, how does bdrv_reopen_commit() handle implicit nodes at all?
bdrv_reopen_parse_backing() just sets reopen_state->replace_backing_bs
and ->new_backing_bs.  It doesn’t communicate anything about overlay_bs.
 bdrv_reopen_commit() then asserts that !bs->backing->bs->implicit and
replaces bs->backing.  So it seems to just fail on the implicit nodes
that bdrv_reopen_parse_backing() took care to skip...


OK, what else...  bdrv_reopen_prepare() checks
reopen_state->bs->backing, which I claim is correct because while there
may be implicit filters in the chain, the first link has to be a
->backing link.

bdrv_backing_overridden() has to query bs->backing because this function
is used when it is about a specific characteristic of the backing link:
There is a non-null default (given by the image header), so if the
current bs->backing matches this default, you do not have to specify the
backing filename in either blockdev-add or a filename.  Same in
bdrv_refresh_filename().


I hope that was all...?

Max

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