Hi Daniel, Philippe,
Op di 16 feb. 2021 10:49 schreef Daniel P. Berrangé <berra...@redhat.com>: > On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 03:10:00PM +0100, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote: > > Hi Niek and QEMU community, > > > > On 2/11/21 11:00 PM, Niek Linnenbank wrote: > > > The following are maintenance patches for the Allwinner H3. The first > patch > > > is a proposal to relocate the binary artifacts of the acceptance tests > away > > > from the apt.armbian.com domain. In the past we had problems with > artifacts being > > > removed, and now the recently added Armbian 20.08.1 image has been > removed as well: > > > > > > $ wget > https://dl.armbian.com/orangepipc/archive/Armbian_20.08.1_Orangepipc_bionic_current_5.8.5.img.xz > > > Connecting to dl.armbian.com (dl.armbian.com)|2605:7900:20::5|:443... > connected. > > > ... > > > HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found > > > 2021-02-11 22:34:45 ERROR 404: Not Found. > > > > > > I've now added the artifacts to a server maintained by me. The machine > has a stable > > > uptime of several years, ~100Mbit bandwidth and plenty of available > storage. > > > Also for other artifacts if needed. I'm open to discuss if there is a > proposal > > > for a better location for these artifacts or a more generic qemu > location. > > > > Thanks for trying to fix this long standing problem. > > > > While this works in your case, this doesn't scale to the community, > > as not all contributors have access to such hardware and bandwidth / > > storage. > > > > While your first patch is useful in showing where the artifacts are > > stored doesn't matter - as long as we use cryptographic hashes - I > > think it is a step in the wrong direction, so I am not keen on > > accepting it. > > > > My personal view is that any contributor should have the same > > possibilities to add tests to the project. Now I am also open to > > discuss with the others :) I might be proven wrong, and it could > > be better to rely on good willing contributors rather than having > > nothing useful at all. > > There aren't many options here > > 1. Rely on a vendor to provide stable download URLs for images > > 2. QEMU host all images we use in testing > > 3. Contributor finds some site to upload images to > > > For the armbian images we rely on (1), but the URLs didn't turn out to be > stable. In fact no OS vendor seems to have guaranteed stable URLs forever, > regardless of distro, though most eventually do have an archive site that > has good life. Armbian was an exception in this respect IIUC. > > (2) would solve the long term stability problem as QEMU would be in full > control, and could open it up for any images we need. The big challenge > there is that QEMU now owns the license compliance problem. Merely > uploading > binary images/packages without the corresponding source is generally a > license > violation. QEMU could provide hosting, but we need to be clear about the > fact > that we now own the license compliance problem ourselves. Many sites > hosting > images simply ignore this problem, but that doesn't make it right. > > > This series is proposing (3), with a site the contributor happens to > control > themselves, but using a free 3rd party hosting site is no different really. > Again there is a the same need for license compliance, but it is now the > responsibility of the user, not QEMU project. > > In this http://www.freenos.org/pub/qemu/cubieboard/ site I can't even see > a > directory listing, so even if corresponding source does exist in this > server, > I can't find it. > > The isn't really a problem for QEMU CI to consume the images, but as a free > software developer I don't like encouraging practices that are not > compliant > with licensing reuqirement. > > It is an open question whether the (3) is really better than (1) in terms > of URL stability long term, especially if running off a user's personal > server. > I understand your concerns. My goal here was to be able to re-activate the orangepi tests, so we can capture bugs early on. So what I can do instead is: - update the patch to use github to store the artifacts, and their licenses (other tests also use github) - or change the patch to use updated armbian links that work (for now) If we can agree on either of these solutions, so the orangepi tests can be re-activated, that would be great. Kind regards, Niek > Regards, > Daniel > -- > |: https://berrange.com -o- > https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| > |: https://libvirt.org -o- > https://fstop138.berrange.com :| > |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- > https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :| > >
