On 22.09.21 22:38, John Snow wrote:


On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 4:37 PM John Snow <js...@redhat.com <mailto:js...@redhat.com>> wrote:


    On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 7:16 AM Hanna Reitz <hre...@redhat.com
    <mailto:hre...@redhat.com>> wrote:


        Question is, when “can we use” mypy >= 0.920? Should we check the
        version string and append this switch as required?


    The answer to that question depends on how the block maintainers
    feel about what environments they expect this test to be runnable
    under. I lightly teased kwolf once about an "ancient" version of
    pylint they were running, but felt kind of bad about it in
    retrospect: the tests I write should "just work" for everyone
    without them needing to really know anything about python or
    setting up or managing their dependencies, environments, etc.

    (1) We can use it the very moment it is released if you're OK with
    running 'make check-dev' from the python/ directory. That script
    sets up its own virtual environment and manages its own
    dependencies. If I set a new minimum version, it will always use
    it. (Same story for 'make check-tox', or 'make check-pipenv'. The
    differences between the tests are primarily on what other
    dependencies they have on your environment -- the details are
    boring, see python/Makefile for further reading if desired.)

    (2) Otherwise, it depends on how people feel about being able to
    run this test directly from iotests and what versions of
    mypy/pylint they are using. Fedora 33 for instance has
    0.782-2.fc33 still, so I can't really "expect" people to have a
    bleeding-edge version of mypy unless they went out of their way to
    install one themselves. (pip3 install --user --upgrade mypy, by
    the way.) Since people are used to running these python scripts
    *outside* of a managed environment (using their OS packages
    directly), I have largely made every effort to support versions as
    old as I reasonably can -- to avoid disruption whenever I possibly
    can.

    So, basically, it kind of depends on if you want to keep 297 or
    not. Keeping it implies some additional cost for the sake of
    maximizing compatibility. If we ditch it, you can let the scripts
    in ./python do their thing and set up their own environments to
    run tests that should probably "just work" for everyone.297 could
    even just be updated to a bash script that just hopped over to
    ./python and ran a special avocado command that ran /only/ the
    iotest linters, if you wanted. I just felt that step #1 was to
    change as little as possible, prove the new approach worked, and
    then when folks were comfortable with it drop the old approach.


Oh, uh, and to answer your more concrete question: Nah, we don't need to conditionally append this workaround. The speed lost from making the check incremental is made up for by not invoking the tool 20 times, so it's OK to just unconditionally add it for now.

Well, yes, but it could be even faster!

And also it would save us from the pain of waiting and judging when it’s reasonable to drop `--no-incremental`, and/or just forgetting that this workaround even exists.  If we checked the version string, it would be OK to just forget about it, I think.

Hanna


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