On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 14:05 Ani Sinha <a...@anisinha.ca> wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 1:58 PM Thomas Huth <th...@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 28/06/2022 10.23, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 01:21:35PM +0530, Ani Sinha wrote:
> > >> On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 1:19 PM Daniel P. Berrangé <
> berra...@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 09:25:35AM +0200, Thomas Huth wrote:
> > >>>> On 28/06/2022 09.10, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > >>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 09:03:33AM +0200, Thomas Huth wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> No problem with that. So that's venv. But do we need pip
> and pulling
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> packages from the net during testing?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> We do that too. See requirements.txt in tests/
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Following two are downloaded:
> > >>>>>>>>>>> avocado-framework==88.1
> > >>>>>>>>>>> pycdlib==1.11.0
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Also see this line in Makefie.include:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> $(call quiet-venv-pip,install -r $(TESTS_VENV_REQ))
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Right but that's avocado since it pulls lots of stuff from
> > >>>>>>>>>> the net anyway.
> > >>>>>>>>>> Are the libraries in question not packaged on major distros?
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Currently I only need this:
> > >>>>>>>>> https://github.com/python-tap/tappy
> > >>>>>>>>> which is the basic TAP processing library for python.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> It seems its only installed through pip:
> > >>>>>>>>> https://tappy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I do not think this is packaged by default. It's such a basic
> library
> > >>>>>>>>> for parsing test output that maybe we can keep this somewhere
> within
> > >>>>>>>>> the python src tree? Not sure ...
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> It's pretty small for sure. Another submodule?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Unlike BITS, this one is likely going to be maintained for a
> while and
> > >>>>>>> will receive new releases through
> > >>>>>>> https://pypi.org/project/tap.py/
> > >>>>>>> so forking is OK but someone has to keep this updated.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I am open to anything. Whatever feels right is fine to me.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> John Snow is currently working on the "Pythonification" of
> various QEMU
> > >>>>>> bits, I think you should loop him into this discussion, too.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>    Thomas
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> submodule does not mean we fork necessarily. We could have
> > >>>>> all options: check for the module and use it if there, if not
> > >>>>> use one from system if not there install with pip ..
> > >>>>> But yea, I'm not sure what's best either.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> submodules create a dependency on an internet connection, too. So
> before you
> > >>>> add yet another submodule (which have a couple of other
> disadvantages), I
> > >>>> think you could also directly use the venv here.
> > >>>
> > >>> Definitely not submodules.
> > >>>
> > >>> We need to get out of the mindset that submodules are needed for
> every new
> > >>> dependancy we add. Submodules are only appropriate if the external
> project
> > >>> is designed to be used as a copylib (eg the keycodemapdb tool), or
> if we
> > >>> need to bundle in order to prevent a regression for previously
> deployed
> > >>> QEMU installs where the dependancy is known not to exist on all our
> > >>> supported platforms.
> > >>>
> > >>> This does not apply in this case, because the proposed use of tappy
> is
> > >>> merely for a test case. Meson just needs to check if tappy exists
> and if
> > >>> it does, then use it, otherwise skip the tests that need it. The
> user can
> > >>> arrange to install tappy, as they do with the majority of other deps.
> > >>>
> > >>> If John's venv stuff is relevant, then we don't even need the meson
> checks,
> > >>> just delegate to the venv setup.
> > >>>
> > >>> Regardless, no submodules are needed or desirable.
> > >>
> > >> What about keeping biosbits stuff? Source or pre-built.
> > >
> > > Shipping them as pre-built binaries in QEMU is not a viable option
> > > IMHO, especially for grub as a GPL'd project we need to be extremely
> > > clear about the exact corresponding source and build process for any
> > > binary.
> > >
> > > For this kind of thing I would generally expect the distro to provide
> > > packages that we consume. Looking at biosbits I see it is itself
> > > bundling a bunch more 3rd party projects, libffi, grub2, and including
> > > even an ancient version of python as a submodule.
> > >
> > > So bundling a pre-built biosbits in QEMU appears to mean that we're in
> > > turn going to unexpectedly bundle a bunch of other 3rd party projects
> > > too, all with dubious license compliance. I don't think this looks like
> > > something we should have in qemu.git or qemu tarballs. It will also
> > > make it challenging for the distro to take biosbits at all, unless
> > > those 3rd party bundles can be eliminated in favour of using existing
> > > builds their have packaged for grub, python, libffi, etc.
> >
> > So if this depends on some third party binary bits, I think this is
> pretty
> > similar to the tests in the avocado directory ... there we download third
> > party binaries, too... Wouldn't it make sense to adapt your tests to that
> > framework?
>
> I do not want to bring in the whole avocado framework because it would
> unnecessarily make things complicated. I just need the qemu machine
> python library and that is enough. For downloading third party stuff,

we can simply wget things from somewhere.


https://pypi.org/project/wget/

That get_asset() call is an overkill for downloading two archives.


>
> >
> >   Thomas
> >
>

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