On 7/2/23 00:40, Bernhard Beschow wrote:
Am 5. Februar 2023 22:32:03 UTC schrieb Mark Cave-Ayland 
<mark.cave-ayl...@ilande.co.uk>:
On 05/02/2023 22:21, BALATON Zoltan wrote:
On Sun, 5 Feb 2023, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote:
On 26/01/2023 21:17, Bernhard Beschow wrote:
Internal instances now defer interrupt wiring to the caller which
decouples them from the ISABus. User-created devices still fish out the
ISABus from the QOM tree and the interrupt wiring remains in PIIX IDE.
The latter mechanism is considered a workaround and intended to be
removed once a deprecation period for user-created PIIX IDE devices is
over.

Signed-off-by: Bernhard Beschow <shen...@gmail.com>
---
   include/hw/ide/pci.h |  1 +
   hw/ide/piix.c        | 64 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----------
   hw/isa/piix.c        |  5 ++++
   3 files changed, 56 insertions(+), 14 deletions(-)

I haven't checked the datasheet, but I suspect this will be similar to the 
cmd646/via PCI-IDE interfaces in that there will be a PCI configuration 
register that will switch between ISA compatibility mode (and ISA irqs) and PCI 
mode (with PCI IRQs). So it would be the device configuration that would 
specify PCI or ISA mode, rather than the presence of an ISABus.

I forgot about this topic already and haven't follwed this series either so 
what I say may not fully make sense but I think CMD646 and via-ide are 
different. CMD646 is a PCI device and should use PCI interrupts while via-ide 
is part of a southbridge/superio complex and connected to the ISA PICs within 
that southbride, so I think via-ide always uses ISA IRQs and the ISA btidge 
within the same chip may convert that to PCI IRQs or not (that part is where 
I'm lost also because we may not actually model it that way). After a long 
debate we managed to find a solution back then that works for every guest we 
use it for now so I think we don't want to touch it now until some real need 
arises. It does not worth the trouble and added complexity to model something 
that is not used just for the sake of correctness. By the time we find a use 
for that, the ISA emulation may evolve so it's easier to implement the missing 
switching between isa and native mode or we may want to do it differently (such 
as we do things differently now compared to what we did years ago). So I think 
it does not worth keeping the ISA model from being simplified for some 
theoretical uses in the future which we may not actually do any time soon. But 
I don't want to get into this again so just shared my thoughts and feel free to 
ignore it. I don't care where these patches go as long as the VIA model keeps 
working for me.

I have a vague memory that ISA compatibility mode was part of the original 
PCI-BMDMA specification, but it has been a while since I last looked.

Bernhard, is there any mention of this in the PIIX datasheet(s)? For reference 
the cmd646 datasheet specifies that ISA mode or PCI mode is determined by 
register PROG_IF (0x9) in PCI configuration space.

I've found the following:

   "Only PCI masters have access to the IDE port. ISA Bus masters cannot access the 
IDE I/O port addresses. Memory targeted by the IDE interface acting as a PCI Bus master 
on behalf of IDE DMA slaves must reside on PCI, usually main memory implemented by the 
host-to-PCI bridge."

And:

   "PIIX4 can act as a PCI Bus master on behalf of an IDE slave device."

Does this perhaps mean that piix-ide does indeed have no ISA bus?

Yes :)

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