Maybe what is needed is a checkbox for programmer related plugins such as Plugin Builder, Plugin Reloader, ScriptRunner and HelloWorld? One another idea is to integrate HelloWorld into Plugin Builder? On Dec 30, 2013 5:44 AM, "Jonathan Moules" < jonathanmou...@warwickshire.gov.uk> wrote:
> +1 to Anita's post. The vast majority of GIS users aren't programmers in > my experience (which is my masters and my current employment with 100+ > people who use GIS in some form). Simpler is almost always better. > > It may not seem that way from mailing lists, but these are a > self-selecting group of the more technically-proactive users (dev lists > even more so). > Cheers, > Jonathan > > > On 30 December 2013 13:32, Anita Graser <anitagra...@gmx.at> wrote: > >> Hi Alessandro, >> >> Am 30.12.2013, 13:54 Uhr, schrieb Alessandro Pasotti <apaso...@gmail.com >> >: >> >>> Did you have any real feedback from users being confused from the >>> HelloWorld plugin? After all, it clearly advertises itself as an example >>> do-nothing plugin. >>> >> >> There is feedback from at least one user who think it should not be on >> the list of "official" plugins: >> https://twitter.com/dig_geo_com/statuses/417293802387152896 >> >> I can understand that it does not leave the most professional impression >> if users find "weird testing stuff" in the "official" plugin list. (Note >> that I'm speaking from the perspective of users without open >> source/programming background.) >> >> Can you explain me why do you put plugin developers in a different >>> category >>> than users? I tend to see plugin authors as (power) users. >>> >> >> Many GIS users are not programmers. They have QGIS installed by their IT >> department and might or might not be able to install additional plugins. >> They certainly won't touch programming with a ten-foot pole. >> I think it's a valid distinction to make and the first impression should >> not alienate these more casual users. >> >> If I were a new QGIS user, I would like to have starting point to >>> develop >>> plugins, of course we have the coockbook and the builder plus plenty of >>> blog articles, but as a programmer, what I would search is exactly that: >>> the simplest possible plugin to start tampering with. >>> >> >> I totally agree with your statement from the perspective of someone who >> knows at least some programming. But not everyone is in this position. Many >> users come to QGIS without feeling the need to develop plugins. Too often >> all they want to do is visualize some data, maybe have some background map >> from OpenLayers plugin. >> >> But I definitely agree that HelloWorld should not have a dual purpose >>> (testing the plugin repository and provide a barebone example for wannabe >>> plugin authors), so here's my proposal: unpublish HelloWorld and create a >>> new Example plugin with the purpose of providing a simple starting point >>> for new plugin authors. >>> >> >> Personally, that doesn't bother me. I'm fine however you decide. >> >> Best wishes, >> Anita >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________ >> anitagraser.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Qgis-developer mailing list >> Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer >> > > > This transmission is intended for the named addressee(s) only and may > contain sensitive or protectively marked material up to RESTRICTED and > should be handled accordingly. Unless you are the named addressee (or > authorised to receive it for the addressee) you may not copy or use it, or > disclose it to anyone else. If you have received this transmission in error > please notify the sender immediately. All email traffic sent to or from us, > including without limitation all GCSX traffic, may be subject to recording > and/or monitoring in accordance with relevant legislation. > _______________________________________________ > Qgis-developer mailing list > Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer >
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