Hi Jonathan,
You keep repeating yourself. You started the exact same discussion a year ago.
You have a valid point, of course, I don't argue that. But if you think about
small organizations that do not have a lot of personal (or financial)
resources, it would be a lot of burden to invest twice the time in styling:
once for QGIS desktop and another time again for UMN mapserver and Geoserver.
Even if SLD output from QGIS improved (also thanks to efforts of Andrea Aime
and others), it still can't transport everything. If it would, then I would
better agree with your argument.
For such smaller organization, speed (and I know that UMN and Geoserver are a
bit faster than QGIS server) is not the only important thing - it is also their
personal and financial resources and complexity of their software landscape.
And QGIS server has some other unique selling points: the proprietary GetPrint
command that doesn't have a match in Geoserver or UMN, the ability to create
Atlases from server, and who knows, in the future perhaps QGIS server can run
processing models.
Greetings,
Andreas
On 2020-06-08 22:42, Jonathan Moules wrote:
Hi List,
Some of you may have seen my blog post on the OSGeo-Discuss list about which
mapping servers are the most deployed. For those who haven't seen it, QGIS
Server has about 60 public deployments (1% of all of them), and it serves
11,924 datasets (0.5% of all public geospatial WMS/WFS/WCS/WMTS datasets).
Potentially controversial here and I appreciate it's not a competition, but
given the low uptake of QGIS Server compared to other Open Source offerings
(GeoServer: 964 deployments, 963,603 datasets; MapServer: 544 deployments,
389,709 datasets), is QGIS Server something the grant program should be
funding? There are three Server proposals totalling €10,000, 22% of the fund.
Now, before you get the pitchforks out(!), please consider the following:
* Zero sum game - Any money spent on QGIS Server cannot be spent on QGIS
Desktop. (The grants mostly aren't things that will improve the shared QGIS
Core). (This reasoning also follows through to OSGeo funds).
* Multiple solutions - Open Source (and OSGeo) already has a very healthy
ecosystem of mapping servers - does it need another one?
* Limited number of users benefited - I don't have stats for it, but QGIS
Desktop is probably the most popular Open Source Desktop GIS, and is certainly
going to have many orders of magnitude more users than QGIS Server.
* Playing to your strengths - QGIS' strength is it's Desktop and it's generally
good practice to play to your strengths.
So given the above, and that QGIS is already "winning" as an Open Source
Desktop (great job!), I'd like to suggest it's not a good idea to dilute the limited
resources by spending them on QGIS Server. Instead it seems that far more people would
benefit if that money was spent on Desktop, especially the bug fixing programme.
Or alternatively, given the "Unique Selling Point" of QGIS Server is its
integration with QGIS Desktop, those resources could be used to further improve
interoperability with GeoServer/MapServer/deegree/etc. Those are all successful mature
OSGeo projects that excel at serving maps, have an architecture designed for it, and
already have huge install bases.
TLDR: QGIS excels at being a Desktop, and I'd like to suggest it should play to
its strengths and focus its limited funds there to benefit the most users.
I shall now retreat to my bunker. :-)
Cheers,
Jonathan
Note: The above only applies to the Grant program and funding; how developers
wish to spend their time, and on which projects is of course their own
prerogative.
(Disclosure: I have no horse in this race; I don't run or administer any
mapping servers, but I have done GeoServer in the past.)
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