A crash log is a good place to start - it might be something with compilation 
or the system and a debug build would be unnecessary.

On Oct 30, 2011, at 12:31 AM, Mars wrote:

> Yes, I have sent quite a few crash reports, but would like to build QGIS with 
> debugging to hopefully get more useful info for dev.'s or others better at 
> understanding how I am stuffing things up. 
> 
> I am hopeful that I may have pin-pointed more consistently QGIS crashing. 
> 
> They Mac model I was using is iMac8,1 The other iMac I have been using is an 
> iMac7,1
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2011-10-29, at 4:51 PM, William Kyngesburye <wokl...@kyngchaos.com> wrote:
> 
>> I couldn't get QGIS to crash like this, on either Snow Leopard or Lion.
>> 
>> Maybe a crash report will help.
>> 
>> On Oct 29, 2011, at 6:36 PM, Mars Sjoden wrote:
>> 
>>> Some curious findings just now after reviewing several hours of Screen 
>>> recordings of using QGIS on various operating system platforms (eyes... 
>>> bleeding)...
>>> 
>>> What I noticed...
>>> 
>>> 1. Double click layer to Launch Properties Window
>>> 2. (do nothing or make changes) Simply single click APPLY/OK and QGIS 
>>> crashes
>>> 
>>> VS
>>> 
>>> 1. RIGHT CLICK  layer,
>>> 2. Select Properties from contextual menu to launch Properties Window
>>> 4. Do what ever you like then click APPLY/OK...
>>> 5. no problem
>>> 
>>> I repeated this test about 10 times on OS X.6.8 cleaned caches and new 
>>> .plist file and the new QGIS 1.7.1-2 from William Kyng's site, with these 
>>> exact same outcomes as above.
>>> 
>>> However, after about the 10th relaunch of QGIS 1.7.1-2 after crashing it,  
>>> I was unable to reproduce (no crashes) after about 30+ properties toggles 
>>> and 10+ different QGIS relaunches.
>>> 
>>> Now (to add another variable). After I completed
>>> 
>>> 1. launch QGIS
>>> 2. Load Natural Earth shp layer
>>> 3. Double Click Natural Earth shp layer to Launch Properties Window
>>> 4. (do nothing) Simply single click APPLY/OK and QGIS
>>> 5. OK
>>> 6. Scroll mouse zoom map canvas
>>> 7. Double Click Natural Earth shp layer to Launch Properties Window
>>> 8. (do nothing) Simply single click APPLY/OK and QGIS crashes
>>> 
>>> and returns back to
>>> 
>>> 1. launch QGIS
>>> 2. Load Natural Earth shp layer
>>> 3. Double Click Natural Earth shp layer to Launch Properties Window
>>> 4. (do nothing) Simply single click APPLY/OK and QGIS crashes
>>> 
>>> ...
>>> 
>>> Soooo far I am unable to crash QGIS IF I invoke the Properties Window via 
>>> Right Mouse click on Layer.
>>> 
>>>  could this be the key to my issues?  I hope so... will ONLY use right 
>>> click layer to invoke properties window from now on to test.
>>> 
>>> mars
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Mars Sjoden <marsofea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Yah, I am wondering if there is a certain hardware configuration on my 
>>> machines that is not agreeing with Qt cocoa.
>>> 
>>> Apple hardware tested:
>>> 
>>> 3x iMac 3.06ghz core2duo, NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GS
>>> 1x iMac 2.00ghz core2dou, ATI radeon hd2400
>>> 1x macbookpro 2ghz, core dou, ati radeon???
>>> 
>>> recent testing on:10.6 vanilla
>>> 
>>> QGIS 1.7 to 1.7.1-2 (and 1.8)  - including William Kyng's required 
>>> frameworks
>>> 
>>> opening Properties dialogue windo and selecting OK or APPLY (either after 
>>> making changes or making no changes) will at some point seemingly randomly 
>>> crash QGIS 
>>> 
>>> With the latest 10.6.8 update (or perhaps 1.7.1 not sure which came first) 
>>> I have one iMac 3ghz machine that will kill QGIS everytime I open a 
>>> properties window and click OK or APPLY without making any changes.
>>> 
>>> Just curious if there is some sort of hardware issue since I have flat out 
>>> re-installed 10.6 on many of my machines with the only extra software 
>>> installed including QGIS and the frameworks and still have the same issue.
>>> 
>>> Of note,
>>> 
>>> I have tested the latest operating systems from 
>>> OSGeo (ubuntu 11?)
>>> Fedora 15
>>> Mint 11, Katya
>>> Debian 6 Squeeze
>>> OpenSUSE 11
>>> and Windows 7
>>> both on separate partition tables without a virtual machine and in Virtual 
>>> Box, Parallels 7 and VMWare 4.
>>> 
>>> I still have instability issues, although found OpenSUSE 11 and Windows 7 
>>> to be the most stable so far allowing for up to an hours worth of work 
>>> before a crash.
>>> 
>>> The crashes in OpenSUSE 11 seem to be related to the properties dialogue 
>>> window OK/APPLY (that is when the crashes occur), while on Windows 7 it is 
>>> more random through out the use of QGIS.
>>> 
>>> Datasets I have been testing with have been from the openly available 
>>> Natural Earth shapefile datasets as you suggested William.
>>> 
>>> Mars
>>> 
>>> What sort of problems are you having?  I don't think there is anything 
>>> specific to a system version, it's more connected with what Qt version and 
>>> type (carbon vs. cocoa).  Newer systems need Qt cocoa, definitely Lion does.
>>> 
>>> There are a few known issues, with bug reports and mentioned in my 
>>> distribution readme (font selection, non-ascii chars in GRASS shell, max # 
>>> open files).  A couple other recent issues I can think of: odd 
>>> georeferencer window behavior, minimized globe plugin panel appears on top 
>>> of upper-left corner toolbar.
>>> 
>>> Much of this probably has something to do with Qt cocoa.
>>> 
>>> -----
>>> William Kyngesburye <kyngchaos*at*kyngchaos*dot*com>
>>> http://www.kyngchaos.com/
>>> 
>>> "Oh, look, I seem to have fallen down a deep, dark hole.  Now what does 
>>> that remind me of?  Ah, yes - life."
>>> 
>>> - Marvin
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>> -----
>> William Kyngesburye <kyngchaos*at*kyngchaos*dot*com>
>> http://www.kyngchaos.com/
>> 
>> "This is a question about the past, is it? ... How can I tell that the past 
>> isn't a fiction designed to account for the discrepancy between my immediate 
>> physical sensations and my state of mind?"
>> 
>> - The Ruler of the Universe
>> 
>> 
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