Is this why GDAL tools fail in the LTR, too? I’m trying to do a simple Raster
Clip from Canvas Extent and It’s failing, too. I’m trying to teach with this
software, but It’s quickly becoming apparent that was a really bad idea. I’m
running LTR, PR and Nightly Build on different User Profiles, and none of them
“works”. Nightly Grass tools work, but Projections aren’t being read properly
when adding simple and clean datasets, LTR GRASS & GDAL tools don’t work, and
I’m not even sure what PR tools actually work, anymore I’ve been going back and
forth so much to do simple tasks.
Does anyone know, historically, of a MacOS build where:
GDAL Works
GRASS Works
SAGA Works
Projection are handled properly?
I’d love to be able to point students to a version they can actually d=finish
their homework with. I’m beginning to think I need to just revert to QGIS2.
Does anyone know where I can get a solid MacOS Installer of the last QGIS2 LTR?
Stace
Here’s the Processing Msg from the failed clip in QGIS3 LTR:
QGIS version: 3.10.10-A Coruña
QGIS code revision: 1869829378
Qt version: 5.12.3
GDAL version: 2.4.1
GEOS version: 3.7.2-CAPI-1.11.2 b55d2125
PROJ version: Rel. 5.2.0, September 15th, 2018
Processing algorithm…
Algorithm 'Clip raster by extent' starting…
Input parameters:
{ 'DATA_TYPE' : 0, 'EXTRA' : '', 'INPUT' :
'/Users/maples/Dropbox/Fundamentals/data/n37_w123_1arc_v3.tif', 'NODATA' :
None, 'OPTIONS' : '', 'OUTPUT' : 'TEMPORARY_OUTPUT', 'PROJWIN' :
'-122.2595875365627,-122.13930135243736,37.36903396820149,37.43874230148546
[EPSG:4326]' }
GDAL command:
gdal_translate -projwin -122.2595875365627 37.43874230148546
-122.13930135243736 37.36903396820149 -of GTiff
/Users/maples/Dropbox/Fundamentals/data/n37_w123_1arc_v3.tif
/private/var/folders/f3/0prmkq7962795yfpwsmvh2100000gq/T/processing_f2457a8fee14434f8c38dbe259f9f374/fcf57fc5a87d4179b314aa8e64d48234/OUTPUT.tif
GDAL command output:
dyld: Symbol not found: _iconv
Referenced from: /usr/lib/libarchive.2.dylib
Expected in: /Applications/QGIS3.10.app/Contents/MacOS/lib/libiconv.2.dylib
in /usr/lib/libarchive.2.dylib
Execution completed in 0.15 seconds
Results:
{'OUTPUT':
'/private/var/folders/f3/0prmkq7962795yfpwsmvh2100000gq/T/processing_f2457a8fee14434f8c38dbe259f9f374/fcf57fc5a87d4179b314aa8e64d48234/OUTPUT.tif'}
Loading resulting layers
The following layers were not correctly
generated.<ul><li>/private/var/folders/f3/0prmkq7962795yfpwsmvh2100000gq/T/processing_f2457a8fee14434f8c38dbe259f9f374/fcf57fc5a87d4179b314aa8e64d48234/OUTPUT.tif</li></ul>You
can check the 'Log Messages Panel' in QGIS main window to find more
information about the execution of the algorithm.
In F,L&T,
Stace Maples
Geospatial Manager
Stanford Geospatial Center
@mapninja
G+, Skype, Hangout: stacey.maples
214.641.0920
Wednesdays 3-5pm on http://KZSULive.stanford.edu
Find GeoData: https://earthworks.stanford.edu<https://earthworks.stanford.edu/>
Get GeoHelp: https://gis.stanford.edu/
stanfordgis Listserv: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stanfordgis
"I have a map of the United States... actual size.
It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile."
I spent last summer folding it."
-Steven Wright-
From: Peter Petrik <peter.pet...@lutraconsulting.co.uk>
Date: Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 11:15 AM
To: Denis Vasiliev <denisk...@gmail.com>
Cc: "Mr. Stace D Maples" <stacemap...@stanford.edu>, qgis-user
<qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Grass Processing Tools fail in QGIS LTR, PR & Nightly
Builds on MacOS
3.14 and 3.10 use homebrew for deps, so it would not be easy for me to fix at
this point...
P.
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 8:09 PM Denis Vasiliev
<denisk...@gmail.com<mailto:denisk...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I wonder, whether Grass GIS shell not working on QGIS 3.14 will be fixed soon?
On Thu, 17 Sep 2020, 20:59 Peter Petrik,
<peter.pet...@lutraconsulting.co.uk<mailto:peter.pet...@lutraconsulting.co.uk>>
wrote:
Better to thank QGIS sponsors and donors since this was fixed as part of the
QGIS grant and bug fixing program.
P.
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 7:45 PM Mr. Stace D Maples
<stacemap...@stanford.edu<mailto:stacemap...@stanford.edu>> wrote:
Confirmed GRASS fixed in the nightly! Thanks Lutra and Peter Petrik!
In F,L&T,
Stace Maples
Geospatial Manager
Stanford Geospatial Center
@mapninja
G+, Skype, Hangout: stacey.maples
214.641.0920
Wednesdays 3-5pm on http://KZSULive.stanford.edu
Find GeoData: https://earthworks.stanford.edu<https://earthworks.stanford.edu/>
Get GeoHelp: https://gis.stanford.edu/
stanfordgis Listserv: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stanfordgis
"I have a map of the United States... actual size.
It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile."
I spent last summer folding it."
-Steven Wright-
From: Qgis-user
<qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org<mailto:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org>>
on behalf of "Mr. Stace D Maples"
<stacemap...@stanford.edu<mailto:stacemap...@stanford.edu>>
Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 at 4:05 PM
To: qgis-user <qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org<mailto:qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org>>
Subject: [Qgis-user] Grass Processing Tools fail in QGIS LTR, PR & Nightly
Builds on MacOS
Anyone have any luck getting grass tools to work on MacOS? This problem never
seems to go away. Any ideas area appreciated. I’ve got 75 students in a
Fundamentals course starting to work on their assignments, next week, and no
one can get QGIS to work properly. Windows users are having issues, too, but I
haven’t even gotten to them, yet. Here’s my write-up from the last 3 hours of
deleting profiles and reinstalling 3 versions on Catalina 10.15.6:
From: https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/32511
I seem to be having the same issue, an issue I've seen many times in the past.
My routine for testing a new installation of QGIS is to add the QuickMapPlugin,
Create random points and then use v.voronoi on those points to test the
historically finicky GRASS processing tools.
1. Deleted user profile for all QGIS users and uninstalled previous apps
2. Download Latest Release: qgis-macos-pr.dmg and install
3. Open QGIS with new empty doc
FYI, I don't think the next 2 steps have anything to do with the issue, but
adding them full acccounting:
4. Install QuickMapServices Plugin, add contrib services
5. Add Stamen Toner Lite
6. Run "Random points in extent" from Processing Panel
a. Use Canvas Extent
b. 10 Points
c. Target CRS: 3857 (also tried outputing to 4326, same results)
d. [Create temporary layer]
7. Runs fine, produces expected random points
8. Run v.voronoi tool on resulting random points
a. Use Map Canvas Extent
b. All else=default
c. Save to temp
9. Fails with the error, below
10. ReRun with option to save random points to point.shp produces the same
error.
11. Identical results for 40+ students,using LTR
12. Repeat exact steps with fresh LTR, including deleting the User Profile
13. same results, exactly.
14. Nightly Build doesn't load the GRASS Provider, at all.
Log WIndow:
`QGIS version: 3.14.16-Pi
QGIS code revision:
a235a14<https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/commit/a235a149f0864a22dc99fed5f6267e2b586b8e57>
Qt version: 5.12.3
GDAL version: 2.4.1
GEOS version: 3.7.2-CAPI-1.11.2 b55d2125
PROJ version: Rel. 5.2.0, September 15th, 2018
Processing algorithm…
Algorithm 'v.voronoi' starting…
Input parameters:
{ '-l' : False, '-t' : False, 'GRASS_MIN_AREA_PARAMETER' : 0.0001,
'GRASS_OUTPUT_TYPE_PARAMETER' : 0, 'GRASS_REGION_PARAMETER' :
'-13670428.191800000,-13586035.687300000,4532539.747800000,4571278.579000000
[EPSG:3857]', 'GRASS_SNAP_TOLERANCE_PARAMETER' : -1, 'GRASS_VECTOR_DSCO' : '',
'GRASS_VECTOR_EXPORT_NOCAT' : False, 'GRASS_VECTOR_LCO' : '', 'input' :
'/Users/maples/Downloads/points.shp|layername=points', 'output' :
'TEMPORARY_OUTPUT' }
g.proj -c proj4="+proj=merc +a=6378137 +b=6378137 +lat_ts=0.0 +lon_0=0.0
+x_0=0.0 +y_0=0 +k=1.0 +units=m +nadgrids=@null<https://github.com/null>
+wktext +no_defs"
v.in.ogr min_area=0.0001 snap=-1.0 input="/Users/maples/Downloads/points.shp"
layer="points" output="vector_5f627ae75a6d96" --overwrite -o
g.region n=4571278.579 s=4532539.7478 e=-13586035.6873 w=-13670428.1918
v.voronoi input=vector_5f627ae75a6d96
output=output0fc09ffb9e94472baedcf2a353550eca --overwrite
v.out.ogr type="auto" input="output0fc09ffb9e94472baedcf2a353550eca"
output="/private/var/folders/f3/0prmkq7962795yfpwsmvh2100000gq/T/processing_xxaYqK/a0d0a2d2844c493babe4c52273dc5a59/output.gpkg"
format="GPKG" --overwrite
Starting GRASS GIS...
Executing
</private/var/folders/f3/0prmkq7962795yfpwsmvh2100000gq/T/processing_xxaYqK/grassdata/grass_batch_job.sh>
...
dyld: Symbol not found: _iconv
Referenced from: /usr/lib/libarchive.2.dylib
Expected in:
/Applications/QGIS3.14.app/Contents/Resources/grass7/lib/libiconv.2.dylib
in /usr/lib/libarchive.2.dylib
/private/var/folders/f3/0prmkq7962795yfpwsmvh2100000gq/T/processing_xxaYqK/grassdata/grass_batch_job.sh:
line 2: 3039 Abort trap: 6 g.proj -c proj4="+proj=merc +a=6378137 +b=6378137
+lat_ts=0.0 +lon_0=0.0 +x_0=0.0 +y_0=0 +k=1.0 +units=m
+nadgrids=@null<https://github.com/null> +wktext +no_defs"
dyld: Symbol not found: _iconv
Referenced from: /usr/lib/libarchive.2.dylib
Expected in:
/Applications/QGIS3.14.app/Contents/Resources/grass7/lib/libiconv.2.dylib
in /usr/lib/libarchive.2.dylib
/private/var/folders/f3/0prmkq7962795yfpwsmvh2100000gq/T/processing_xxaYqK/grassdata/grass_batch_job.sh:
line 3: 3040 Abort trap: 6 v.in.ogr min_area=0.0001 snap=-1.0
input="/Users/maples/Downloads/points.shp" layer="points"
output="vector_5f627ae75a6d96" --overwrite -o
dyld: Symbol not found: _iconv
Referenced from: /usr/lib/libarchive.2.dylib
Expected in:
/Applications/QGIS3.14.app/Contents/Resources/grass7/lib/libiconv.2.dylib
in /usr/lib/libarchive.2.dylib
/private/var/folders/f3/0prmkq7962795yfpwsmvh2100000gq/T/processing_xxaYqK/grassdata/grass_batch_job.sh:
line 4: 3041 Abort trap: 6 g.region n=4571278.579 s=4532539.7478
e=-13586035.6873 w=-13670428.1918
dyld: Symbol not found: _iconv
Referenced from: /usr/lib/libarchive.2.dylib
Expected in:
/Applications/QGIS3.14.app/Contents/Resources/grass7/lib/libiconv.2.dylib
in /usr/lib/libarchive.2.dylib
/private/var/folders/f3/0prmkq7962795yfpwsmvh2100000gq/T/processing_xxaYqK/grassdata/grass_batch_job.sh:
line 5: 3042 Abort trap: 6 v.voronoi input=vector_5f627ae75a6d96
output=output0fc09ffb9e94472baedcf2a353550eca --overwrite
dyld: Symbol not found: _iconv
Referenced from: /usr/lib/libarchive.2.dylib
Expected in:
/Applications/QGIS3.14.app/Contents/Resources/grass7/lib/libiconv.2.dylib
in /usr/lib/libarchive.2.dylib
/private/var/folders/f3/0prmkq7962795yfpwsmvh2100000gq/T/processing_xxaYqK/grassdata/grass_batch_job.sh:
line 6: 3043 Abort trap: 6 v.out.ogr type="auto"
input="output0fc09ffb9e94472baedcf2a353550eca"
output="/private/var/folders/f3/0prmkq7962795yfpwsmvh2100000gq/T/processing_xxaYqK/a0d0a2d2844c493babe4c52273dc5a59/output.gpkg"
format="GPKG" --overwrite
Execution of
</private/var/folders/f3/0prmkq7962795yfpwsmvh2100000gq/T/processing_xxaYqK/grassdata/grass_batch_job.sh>
finished.
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/Applications/QGIS3.14.app/Contents/Resources/grass7/bin/_grass76", line
2207, in
main()
File "/Applications/QGIS3.14.app/Contents/Resources/grass7/bin/_grass76", line
2155, in main
clean_all()
File "/Applications/QGIS3.14.app/Contents/Resources/grass7/bin/_grass76", line
1789, in clean_all
gsetup.clean_default_db()
File
"/Applications/QGIS3.14.app/Contents/Resources/grass7/etc/python/grass/script/setup.py",
line 220, in clean_default_db
conn = gdb.db_connection()
File
"/Applications/QGIS3.14.app/Contents/Resources/grass7/etc/python/grass/script/db.py",
line 108, in db_connection
nuldev = file(os.devnull, 'w')
NameError: name 'file' is not defined
/Applications/QGIS3.14.app/Contents/Resources/grass7/grass76.sh: line 20:
/private/var/folders/f3/0prmkq7962795yfpwsmvh2100000gq/T/processing_xxaYqK/grassdata/temp_location/PERMANENT:
is a directory
Execution completed in 1.06 seconds
Results:
{'output': <QgsProcessingOutputLayerDefinition {'sink':TEMPORARY_OUTPUT,
'createOptions': {'fileEncoding': 'System'}}>}
Loading resulting layers
The following layers were not correctly generated.
•
/private/var/folders/f3/0prmkq7962795yfpwsmvh2100000gq/T/processing_xxaYqK/a0d0a2d2844c493babe4c52273dc5a59/output.gpkg
You can check the 'Log Messages Panel' in QGIS main window to find more
information about the execution of the algorithm.`
Grass7 Messages:
2020-09-16T13:36:32 INFO processInputs end. Commands: ['g.proj -c
proj4="+proj=merc +a=6378137 +b=6378137 +lat_ts=0.0 +lon_0=0.0 +x_0=0.0 +y_0=0
+k=1.0 +units=m +nadgrids=@null +wktext +no_defs"', 'v.in.ogr min_area=0.0001
snap=-1.0
input="/private/var/folders/f3/0prmkq7962795yfpwsmvh2100000gq/T/processing_xxaYqK/08af800894524bfab7d0246fa9cfa686/input.shp"
output="vector_5f627750a89682" --overwrite -o', 'g.region n=4571278.579
s=4532539.7478 e=-13603929.6588 w=-13652534.2203'] 2020-09-16T13:36:32 INFO
processCommands end. Commands: ['g.proj -c proj4="+proj=merc +a=6378137
+b=6378137 +lat_ts=0.0 +lon_0=0.0 +x_0=0.0 +y_0=0 +k=1.0 +units=m
+nadgrids=@null +wktext +no_defs"', 'v.in.ogr min_area=0.0001 snap=-1.0
input="/private/var/folders/f3/0prmkq7962795yfpwsmvh2100000gq/T/processing_xxaYqK/08af800894524bfab7d0246fa9cfa686/input.shp"
output="vector_5f627750a89682" --overwrite -o', 'g.region n=4571278.579
s=4532539.7478 e=-13603929.6588 w=-13652534.2203', 'v.voronoi
input=vector_5f627750a89682 output=output0a0d63c243fe4fe7ba108fc071fb92e3
--overwrite'] 2020-09-16T13:37:14 INFO processInputs end. Commands: ['g.proj -c
proj4="+proj=merc +a=6378137 +b=6378137 +lat_ts=0.0 +lon_0=0.0 +x_0=0.0 +y_0=0
+k=1.0 +units=m +nadgrids=@null +wktext +no_defs"', 'v.in.ogr min_area=0.0001
snap=-1.0
input="/private/var/folders/f3/0prmkq7962795yfpwsmvh2100000gq/T/processing_xxaYqK/3e6d8b4161c148319a28b77258238e5f/input.shp"
output="vector_5f62777a579b03" --overwrite -o', 'g.region n=4571278.579
s=4532539.7478 e=-13603929.6588 w=-13652534.2203'] 2020-09-16T13:37:14 INFO
processCommands end. Commands: ['g.proj -c proj4="+proj=merc +a=6378137
+b=6378137 +lat_ts=0.0 +lon_0=0.0 +x_0=0.0 +y_0=0 +k=1.0 +units=m
+nadgrids=@null +wktext +no_defs"', 'v.in.ogr min_area=0.0001 snap=-1.0
input="/private/var/folders/f3/0prmkq7962795yfpwsmvh2100000gq/T/processing_xxaYqK/3e6d8b4161c148319a28b77258238e5f/input.shp"
output="vector_5f62777a579b03" --overwrite -o', 'g.region n=4571278.579
s=4532539.7478 e=-13603929.6588 w=-13652534.2203', 'v.voronoi
input=vector_5f62777a579b03 output=outpute794dfeeeea144df98a90b7a07128ca0
--overwrite'] 2020-09-16T13:38:55 INFO processInputs end. Commands: ['g.proj -c
proj4="+proj=merc +a=6378137 +b=6378137 +lat_ts=0.0 +lon_0=0.0 +x_0=0.0 +y_0=0
+k=1.0 +units=m +nadgrids=@null +wktext +no_defs"', 'v.in.ogr min_area=0.0001
snap=-1.0
input="/private/var/folders/f3/0prmkq7962795yfpwsmvh2100000gq/T/processing_xxaYqK/2c92d7fff8934dc0b3e37199fe83a09c/input.shp"
output="vector_5f6277dfbe5304" --overwrite -o', 'g.region n=4570531.891981606
s=4534907.978609399 e=-13613607.067557963 w=-13651848.786443522']
2020-09-16T13:38:55 INFO processCommands end. Commands: ['g.proj -c
proj4="+proj=merc +a=6378137 +b=6378137 +lat_ts=0.0 +lon_0=0.0 +x_0=0.0 +y_0=0
+k=1.0 +units=m +nadgrids=@null +wktext +no_defs"', 'v.in.ogr min_area=0.0001
snap=-1.0
input="/private/var/folders/f3/0prmkq7962795yfpwsmvh2100000gq/T/processing_xxaYqK/2c92d7fff8934dc0b3e37199fe83a09c/input.shp"
output="vector_5f6277dfbe5304" --overwrite -o', 'g.region n=4570531.891981606
s=4534907.978609399 e=-13613607.067557963 w=-13651848.786443522', 'v.voronoi
input=vector_5f6277dfbe5304 output=output9a09588a79b54d9ea768c6f2b689c702
--overwrite'] 2020-09-16T13:39:58 INFO processInputs end. Commands: ['g.proj -c
proj4="+proj=merc +a=6378137 +b=6378137 +lat_ts=0.0 +lon_0=0.0 +x_0=0.0 +y_0=0
+k=1.0 +units=m +nadgrids=@null +wktext +no_defs"', 'v.in.ogr min_area=0.0001
snap=-1.0
input="/private/var/folders/f3/0prmkq7962795yfpwsmvh2100000gq/T/processing_xxaYqK/5b575cc50fc849a1bb97003b5f78f42b/input.shp"
output="vector_5f62781edb4255" --overwrite -o', 'g.region n=4571278.579
s=4532539.7478 e=-13586035.6873 w=-13670428.1918'] 2020-09-16T13:39:58 INFO
processCommands end. Commands: ['g.proj -c proj4="+proj=merc +a=6378137
+b=6378137 +lat_ts=0.0 +lon_0=0.0 +x_0=0.0 +y_0=0 +k=1.0 +units=m
+nadgrids=@null +wktext +no_defs"', 'v.in.ogr min_area=0.0001 snap=-1.0
input="/private/var/folders/f3/0prmkq7962795yfpwsmvh2100000gq/T/processing_xxaYqK/5b575cc50fc849a1bb97003b5f78f42b/input.shp"
output="vector_5f62781edb4255" --overwrite -o', 'g.region n=4571278.579
s=4532539.7478 e=-13586035.6873 w=-13670428.1918', 'v.voronoi
input=vector_5f62781edb4255 output=output03206a43e4b742dbbfd883da361be4bc
--overwrite'] 2020-09-16T13:51:51 INFO processInputs end. Commands: ['g.proj -c
proj4="+proj=merc +a=6378137 +b=6378137 +lat_ts=0.0 +lon_0=0.0 +x_0=0.0 +y_0=0
+k=1.0 +units=m +nadgrids=@null +wktext +no_defs"', 'v.in.ogr min_area=0.0001
snap=-1.0 input="/Users/maples/Downloads/points.shp" layer="points"
output="vector_5f627ae75a6d96" --overwrite -o', 'g.region n=4571278.579
s=4532539.7478 e=-13586035.6873 w=-13670428.1918'] 2020-09-16T13:51:51 INFO
processCommands end. Commands: ['g.proj -c proj4="+proj=merc +a=6378137
+b=6378137 +lat_ts=0.0 +lon_0=0.0 +x_0=0.0 +y_0=0 +k=1.0 +units=m
+nadgrids=@null +wktext +no_defs"', 'v.in.ogr min_area=0.0001 snap=-1.0
input="/Users/maples/Downloads/points.shp" layer="points"
output="vector_5f627ae75a6d96" --overwrite -o', 'g.region n=4571278.579
s=4532539.7478 e=-13586035.6873 w=-13670428.1918', 'v.voronoi
input=vector_5f627ae75a6d96 output=output0fc09ffb9e94472baedcf2a353550eca
--overwrite'] 2020-09-16T13:53:25 INFO processInputs end. Commands: ['g.proj -c
proj4="+proj=merc +a=6378137 +b=6378137 +lat_ts=0.0 +lon_0=0.0 +x_0=0.0 +y_0=0
+k=1.0 +units=m +nadgrids=@null +wktext +no_defs"', 'v.in.ogr min_area=0.0001
snap=-1.0 input="/Users/maples/Downloads/points.shp" layer="points"
output="vector_5f627b452c9c37" --overwrite -o', 'g.region n=4571278.579
s=4532539.7478 e=-13586035.6873 w=-13670428.1918'] 2020-09-16T13:53:25 INFO
processCommands end. Commands: ['g.proj -c proj4="+proj=merc +a=6378137
+b=6378137 +lat_ts=0.0 +lon_0=0.0 +x_0=0.0 +y_0=0 +k=1.0 +units=m
+nadgrids=@null +wktext +no_defs"', 'v.in.ogr min_area=0.0001 snap=-1.0
input="/Users/maples/Downloads/points.shp" layer="points"
output="vector_5f627b452c9c37" --overwrite -o', 'g.region n=4571278.579
s=4532539.7478 e=-13586035.6873 w=-13670428.1918', 'v.voronoi
input=vector_5f627b452c9c37 output=outpute37f6908fba34e188ad9ccedb42a9b3a
--overwrite']
In F,L&T,
Stace Maples
Geospatial Manager
Stanford Geospatial Center
@mapninja
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"I have a map of the United States... actual size.
It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile."
I spent last summer folding it."
-Steven Wright-
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