So at this point your environment should be active - type qgis in the terminal and it should start.

I ignore the ICD warning. I think at some point I actually installed something to make it go away but it doesn't stop qgis from working.

Randy


On 2/26/24 09:32, Bernd Vogelgesang via QGIS-User wrote:
Soooo,

I thought to share my steps so far, so I will not have to ask again in some weeks ;)

terminal:
$ curl -L -O "https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge/releases/latest/download/Miniforge3-$(uname)-$(uname -m).sh"
bash Miniforge3-$(uname)-$(uname -m).sh

was asked to deactivate the base environment and confirmed, but somehow this did not happen, so:

$ conda config --set auto_activate_base false

$ conda create --name qgis_3.34

then I got warned that there is a newer version of conda (strange, why isn't the new version installed right away?).
So done as told:

$ conda update -n base -c conda-forge conda

$ conda activate qgis_3.34

conda install qgis=3.34

stuff is installed, but again the warning to update

finally:
WARNING: No ICDs were found. Either,
- Install a conda package providing a OpenCL implementation (pocl, oclgrind, intel-compute-runtime, beignet) or - Make your system-wide implementation visible by installing ocl-icd-system conda package.

That stuff is exactly what I was messing around with for the past week to get the graphics card support in QGIS. Gnrrr...!

So, what to do now? I feel like panicking ... ;)





Am 26.02.24 um 14:21 schrieb Johannes Kröger (WhereGroup):
Don't feel dumb, it is all written and spread out in super complicated ways but once running, it's alright-ish.

Normal Miniforge3 should be fine unless you know you want pypy.
Unless you know differently, try the "Miniforge3-Linux-x86_64" version.
Mamba is something hidden in the background, for you it will pretend to be Conda. Conda is the original project, mamba is a faster, compatible alternative. Miniforge is something that comes with mamba "as conda" and automatically uses the big "conda-forge" repository where lots of software and libraries are available, packaged by the community.

You can use the command lines from https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge?tab=readme-ov-file#install

After installation I recommend: $ conda config --set auto_activate_base false Otherwise every terminal/shell session will run using a conda environment instead of your standard system environment.

Once installed, you can use the "create" line from other previous mail to install a QGIS environment. Then "conda activate qgis_3.34" to activate it in a terminal session, "qgis" in that same terminal to launch that QGIS and just close the terminal or enter "conda deactivate" to deactivate it again.

Cheers, Hannes


On 26.02.24 13:41, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:
Hi Hannes,

Thanks for you answer. I played around before with those snakes and that's what maybe brought me into trouble.

And again, this zoo of species starts to confuse me, starting with the installer:
Miniforge3 or Miniforge-pypy3 ?
And when does the mamba come into play instead of the conda?

Sorry for me playing the dumb, but I almost spent a week trying to get things back to normal here at my desk.

Cheers,
Bernd

Am 26.02.24 um 12:35 schrieb Johannes Kröger (WhereGroup):
Hi Bernd,

a pragmatic solution which I have grown to like is using conda environments. Using mamba instead of the default conda via https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge to reduce annoyances and then it is for example a simple "conda --create qgis_3.34 qgis=3.34" to get a nicely isolated QGIS 3.34 with pdal etc.

Just make sure to deactivate the base environment in your terminal/shell, otherwise you are trading one potential mess for another ;)

Cheers, Hannes

On 26.02.24 12:10, Bernd Vogelgesang via QGIS-User wrote:
Hi,
using QGIS on the "normal" ubuntu-based Linux Mint for years, I again managed to render my system unusable by playing around too much, resulting in ever crashing QGIS so I even had to reactivate a Windows Virtual Box to be able to work!!

After a hell of problems with NVIDIA graphics drivers (opencl support in QGIS), I finally managed to get everything to work with Linux Mint Debian edition ... but now had to learn that Debian does not provide PDAL for point cloud stuff in the repositories.

Long story short: Can anyone give me recommendations how to get PDAL working with QGIS that do NOT include building PDAL and QGIS by myself?
Though I USE Linux for over 15 years,I would prefer avoiding that.
Fumbling around with too less insight on what I am actually doing just led me here...

Cheers,
Bernd





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