On  Sat, 23 Mar 2002 at 14:36:17, Dilwyn Jones wrote:
(ref: <009c01c1d27a$79f00260$42065cc3@default>)


>OK, to get this resolved, can someone check the data below and
>correct/fill in blanks as necessary so this data can be permanently
>posted somewhere to clear this up.
This is all done after 1am, just having returned from Eindhoven, so 
would welcome correction (even by myself when I re-awake later)

DSR/DTR connections are not needed.

QL ser1 is identical to ser2 other than RX/TX and CTS/DTR(RTS)  swapped.

This is formatted with TAB so if it appears odd in your mailers, copy 
and paste to a text editor.  The colours are from the std QL flat cable 
(copied for superHermes):

    QL <-> PC serial links
    ----------------------

      QL                                             PC
ser1    ser2            QL  PC                  25D     9D


3       2       white   RX  RX          <-      3       2
5       4       blue    DTR RTS         ->      5       8
2       3       green   TX  TX          ->      2       3
4       5       red     CTS CTS         <-      4       7
1       1       black   GND GND         --      7       5

I think this way of laying it out says it all.
>
>$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
>
>--------------------------------------------
>UKQL  DB9  DB25  SIGNALS  DB25  DB9     UKQL
>SER1                                    SER2
>--------------------------------------------
>3      2    3     RxD-TxD     2    3    2?
>2      3    2     TxD-RxD     3    2    3?
> ?     4    20    DTR-DSR     6    6     ? (QL DTR is actually an RTS)
>1      5    7     GND-GND     7    5    1
> ?     6    6     DSR-DTR    20    4     ? (QL DTR is actually an RTS)
>4?     7    4     RTS-CTS     5    8    5? (QL DTR is actually an RTS)
>5?     8    5     CTS-RTS     4    7    4? (QL DTR is actually an RTS)
>------------------------------------------
>GND=ground
>RxD=Receive Data
>TxD=Transmit Data
>CTS=Clear To Send
>RTS=Request To Send?
>DTR=Data Terminal Ready?
>DSR=Data Send Ready?
>
>DB9 and DB25 respectively are 9 and 25 pin D connectors, as used on
>PCs for example. Some serial ports on some QL style machines (e.g. my
>Aurora!) were wired the same as these. If anyone can fill in the
>question marks above I can put a definitive list on my website to
>'post it on a mountain top' as TF said!

>
>Using the above table, it would appear based on the info I have that
>the correct pinout for a U.K. QL SER1 to 9 pin D COM port, for example
>is:
>===============================
>UKQL                9PIN  25PIN
>SER1                 COM  COM
>===============================
>1 (GND)----------(GND) 5   7
>2 (TxD)----------(RxD) 2   3
>3 (RxD)----------(TxD) 3   2
>4 (DTR=RTS)------(CTS) 8   5
>5 (CTS)----------(RTS) 7   4
>6 (+12V) not used
>===============================
No - see above.  You are possibly thinking QL to modem.
>
>Some questions:
answered above
>1) Can someone fill in the question marks?

>2) Would QL SER2 be wired the same?
Swap TX/RX  and CTS/RTS(DTR) pairs.
>3) When connecting to QL
> does one leave unused COM port DTR and DSR on
>PC/whatever unconnected?
Yes.
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