On Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 08:45:19AM +0200, Graham Leggett wrote:
> Henning Brauer wrote:
> > > ...and I am arguing that doing this over QMQP is the wrong approach in
> > > my case.
> > It is NOT. smtp has to many disadvantages for this kind of usage.
> And you have as yet to give me a compelling disadvantage. You have only
> said "QMQP is better", which IMNSHO is not a good enough reason.

How often again? QMQP is by far faster, more efficient. Doing this stuff
over SMTP costs much much much processing power, totally useless. 

> > There is a very valid reason for not doinf so: bloating the codebase without
> > a reason.
> I would seriously doubt the codebase would be increased by more than a
> few lines of code. Far far fewer lines than the bloat caused by
> maintaining an entire new protocol. 

Nope. QMQP is supported in stock qmail, no new code here. qmail-qmqpd is a
extra program, no new code in qmail-[send|lspawn|local].

> > Andre maintains the main qmail-ldap patch, not me. I would not include such
> > a patch. 
> Then why did you suggest I write code?

We can stop this discussion then. It leads to nowhere.

> The most frustrating part of this exercise is that your are convinced I
> am wrong, and you are trying everything in your power to stop me from
> implementing my solution. 

No, I don't want you to stop from implementing in-cluster-deliveries over
SMTP. Do it. I just don't want it in the main patch.

> > Nonsense. IP-based access control via tcpserver as you (hopefully) do for
> > nearly any service. 
> How on earth do you provide tcpserver IP based access control to people
> dialling in via public dialup hmmm? All the open ports are SSL/TLS
> protected - no network is trusted *anywhere*. 

No 127.0.0.1,RELAYCLIENT="", hmm?

> > > In the mean time SMTP may be less performance,
> > > but it works and is secure.
> > Nonsense. It adds an uneeded overhead.
> So far this "overhead" represents a few extra lines of code. Some
> overhead.

Yeah. And tomorrow someone thinks qmail must really support these stupid
DSNs, just a few lines of code extra. And some days later there's another
"feature" not needed by 99,5% of the ppl, just 100 lines of code.
If you are still convinced you want in-cluster-deliveries over smtp JUST DO
IT. qmail-lspawc.c, void mail_forward(), about line 967.


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