Claudio,

I get the same thing over here.  Not sure what causes it as I have not
investigated it that much.  We don't reload all the often.  But I will
see what I can come up with.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Claudio Jeker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 5:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Qmail-ldap restart


On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 03:17:37PM +0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 09:44:34AM +0200, Taymour A. El Erian wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >>    My version is 20010501 and yes the problem always happens. At 
> >> this moment qmail-todo is zombie
> >>
> > If qmail-todo is in the zombie state it is no longer running. The 
> > qmail-send is then probably waiting for a other process (are other
> > qmail-* processes running?).
> 
> 'ps ax' shows like this after stopping qmail.
> 
>  998 ?        S      2:16 qmail-send
>  1000 ?        S      0:21 /usr/local/bin/multilog t
> s10000000 /var/log/qmail/sm
>  1005 ?        S      0:47 qmail-lspawn ./Maildir/
>  1006 ?        S      0:39 qmail-rspawn
>  1007 ?        S      0:18 qmail-clean
>  1008 ?        Z      1:15 [qmail-todo <defunct>]
>  1009 ?        Z      0:17 [qmail-clean <defunct>]
> 
> 
> and logs show this:
> 
>      status: qmail-todo exiting asap
> 
> Other processes like qmail-remote , qmail-queue still runs.
> 

As long as qmail-rspawn or qmail-lspawn is running qmail-send may not
quit because there are still deliveries running.

> 
> but wait, something new(for me)!!!
> now it has started to recover automatically!!!
> after some 100 seconds, it automatically recovers.
> I remember for sure, that it wasn't the case sometimes ago.(might be 
> when i was using 20020501).
> 

Probably the remote deliveries where finished and so qmail-send finaly
quit.

What I do not understand is why you get a qmail-todo zombie. qmail-send
does not wait and ignores SIGCHLD. In this case zombies should not be
generated.

What system are you using? 
Is this another "we are GNU/Linux and we know the stuff better then the
rest of the world" thing?

-- 
:wq Claudio

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