Hi Boy, have I been enjoying reading my mail lately :-) OK, let's kill the thread. Change the subject, it's out of line. My purpose was to have the right warnings popup in the mailinglist's searchengine for the rookie type of 'rpm & go' user (like me) considering to install qmail. I've just tried the searchengine, & I'm happy to say, I succeeded. Thanks guys. A few [OFF] responses to all the heat: * The main problem was the RPM. Some people helped me look at the installation, and it's messy what I have here... the docs don't match the man pages, I've got different versions of different programs, some stuff seems missing. This may account for why fastforward and dotforward don't work ... either that or ...the RPM engine may be acting up ... :-( * A word about me: yes, it's a small office and I don't get paid to be sysadmin. Generally, I just tie all the machines together and keep an eye on things. We bought ourselves a linux box few years ago. Occassionaly, we've hired a Guru to configure .. sendmail ! .... right :-) Cost you money. Qmail could be the solution ... it seems. On the counterpart, a few complaining users are not such a pain to me as they are to you SuperUsers, in this small office. But I don't think I'm the "moron" I claimed myself to be. I know the difference between sendmail and xmail ... it's no thing a quick look at the RedHat Book wouldn't tell too. Deinstalling sendmail (which is obligatory for the RPM ... either with --force or by hand) felt much like taking the wheels of a driving car. What's more, I don't _want_ to be a Guru. Sorry guys, it's not what I do for a living. Most of the time trusting the RPM works much better than trying to do it myself. I really love RPM, it could be a powerfull thing ... enough rope to hang yourself. * RedHat does just 'pop out of a box' nowadays. It's shipped with a book that suggests you don't really have to read it at all.This may be RH's mistake. ( BTW, ofcourse I did read it. It's empty ) ( in fact, I read qmail's docs and mans and studied 'The Big Picture' - wow, there's a pp version - before I decided to 'safely' go for the RPM. I've printed out half this mailinglist to read it at home. Much of it is just happy faces. The rest is quite hebrew if you've never seen a working qmail setup ) I really really really hope RedHat installers will support Qmail in future releases ... * Ofcourse I had a backup :-) You don't need 2 machines, use partitions. But once I had Qmail working (with some workarounds), the backup was outdated. Mail came in. * I never said qmail is "SH*T" - in fact, I keep repeating it's great (without caps). That's why I installed it. This really makes me wonder: what's it to you ? Why get angry at 'constructive criticism' ? Thanks for the responses. I'm looking forward to the O'Reilly book and pretty interested in what Dave Sill and Chris Green might add ... Bye *.P.i.k.e..* PS oh right, the signature :-) I know it showed up as an ugly mess on your .."VT100" tty -s. That is the point ... therefor I mac, right ? ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸ http://www.kw.nl/~pike ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸ As I was going up the stairs I met a man who wasn't there He wasn't there again today I wish, I wish, he'd go away
