qmail Digest 7 Nov 1999 11:00:01 -0000 Issue 813 Topics (messages 32580 through 32597): Re: mailquotacheck and quota.patch 32580 by: Andres 32581 by: Benjamin de los Angeles Jr. 32590 by: Andres Web Interface 32582 by: J. Adams Re: qmail in SCO 32583 by: Markus Wuebben Usage of /var/qmail/users/assign 32584 by: Todd A. Jacobs cdb owned by root? 32585 by: Todd A. Jacobs best way to handle postmaster 32586 by: David Harris 32588 by: Bruno Wolff III 32589 by: David Harris Qmail and Webmail 32587 by: Nik Gibson Re: ezmlm problems 32591 by: Frederik Lindberg Re: X-Face headers 32592 by: Russell Nelson A different kind of problem 32593 by: Wal Haidar Re: Qmail - Startup and POP3 Problems 32594 by: dd Re: quick question re: starting with rblsmtpd 32595 by: dd silly question? maybe... 32596 by: dd Pop/Single-UID based POP3/problem 32597 by: Jørgen Skogstad Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To bug my human owner, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To post to the list, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----------------------------------------------------------------------
I know how to use it, thanks, but I would know if there's any option to send back the messages that couldn't be delivered (using mailquotacheck). As there is no manual of quota.patch I don't know how to use it. > > mailquotacheck works fine without any quota patch for Qmail. > Just put, "|/path/mailquotacheck.sh" (ignore the quotes) in > your .qmail file. > > On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 10:22:08AM +0100, Andres Mendez wrote: > > Hello. > > > > I've installed mailquotacheck, but I would like that when a message can't be delivered (because exceeds the quota) it is sent back to the sender. > > > > I've seen that exists a patch, quota.patch, which is supposed to do this. Is there a manual or whatever on how to use it, select the quota... because I can only download the patch with no instructions. > >
mailquotacheck does that, it bounces e-mails when the recipient exceeded his quota. aside from that, i don't see why you would want any special configuration. On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, Andres wrote: > I know how to use it, thanks, but I would know if there's any option to send > back the messages that couldn't be delivered (using mailquotacheck). > > As there is no manual of quota.patch I don't know how to use it. > > > > > mailquotacheck works fine without any quota patch for Qmail. > > Just put, "|/path/mailquotacheck.sh" (ignore the quotes) in > > your .qmail file. > > > > On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 10:22:08AM +0100, Andres Mendez wrote: > > > Hello. > > > > > > I've installed mailquotacheck, but I would like that when a message > can't be delivered (because exceeds the quota) it is sent back to the > sender. > > > > > > I've seen that exists a patch, quota.patch, which is supposed to do > this. Is there a manual or whatever on how to use it, select the quota... > because I can only download the patch with no instructions. > > > > > > >
It's true, sorry. I checked it using the same e-mail for RCPT and FROM. Mailquotacheck works OK. ----- Original Message ----- From: Benjamin de los Angeles Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Andres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: QMail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 4:41 PM Subject: RE: mailquotacheck and quota.patch > > mailquotacheck does that, it bounces e-mails when the > recipient exceeded his quota. aside from that, i don't > see why you would want any special configuration. > > On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, Andres wrote: > > > I know how to use it, thanks, but I would know if there's any option to send > > back the messages that couldn't be delivered (using mailquotacheck). > > > > As there is no manual of quota.patch I don't know how to use it. > > > > > > > > mailquotacheck works fine without any quota patch for Qmail. > > > Just put, "|/path/mailquotacheck.sh" (ignore the quotes) in > > > your .qmail file. > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 10:22:08AM +0100, Andres Mendez wrote: > > > > Hello. > > > > > > > > I've installed mailquotacheck, but I would like that when a message > > can't be delivered (because exceeds the quota) it is sent back to the > > sender. > > > > > > > > I've seen that exists a patch, quota.patch, which is supposed to do > > this. Is there a manual or whatever on how to use it, select the quota... > > because I can only download the patch with no instructions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Has anyone seen a web POP3 client that WORKS with the original qmail pop3 daemon from QMail 1.2 ??? I have tried AtDot (www.atdot.org), It cant login to the server, I tried phpop, it cant log in to the server, and everything else is for IMAP. By the way, I am using the single UID virtual users configuration, and I have the latest PHP3 installed, I think its 3.1.12. I believe PHPLIB is not compatible with PHP4.02b which I had installed. Server is Apache 1.3.9, MySQL is 3.21.19, Qmail is 1.2, the kernel is 2.034 if you can help I would really appreciate it. ---------- Jon Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Luis Bezerra wrote: > Hello everybody, > > Anyone knows qmail running in SCO UNIX? BTW: Does anyone know where I can get precompiled binaries of the gcc + libs for SCO? later, markus > > > > -- > ----------------------------- > Luís Bezerra de A. Junior > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > SecrelNet Informática LTDA > Fortaleza - Ceará - Brasil > Fone: 021852882090 > ----------------------------- > > > -- (Products & Development) ___________________________________________________ ID-PRO GmbH Arnsberg http://www.id-pro.de Open for the better ... ___________________________________________________
I'm not 100% sure I understand the difference in intended usage between setting up a ~/alias/.qmail-whatever file and setting up a virtual user in /var/qmail/users/assign. As far as I can tell, the former uses forwarding, whereas the latter is acting like a true alias. Am I understanding this correctly? If so, what are the practical implications? They seem almost interchangeable to me. -- Todd A. Jacobs Network Systems Engineer
My /var/qmail/users/ files (assign and cdb) are owned by root:root. The system seems to work fine in that configuration, but I wanted to know if those were the proper permissions, or if those files are supposed to be owned by the qmail group instead. -- Todd A. Jacobs Network Systems Engineer
Hi, I'm kind of tired of having double bounces end up in the root mailbox, so I'd like to setup some way to have the postmaster account handle these automatically. Right now I don't even look at them, so I could just /dev/null them, but I'd like to do something slightly better. I know that the RFC's state that [EMAIL PROTECTED] should come to a human operator. Here is what I'm thinking... How about a autoresponder at the postmaster account which simply replies saying "to speak to a live human operator, please e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]" and /dev/null's the message. This way humans sending e-mail to the postmaster account don't end in frustration.. and automated mailings will either be not replied to (because there is no return-path) or will get punished with an e-mail because they didn't properly set their return-path. Does this sound right? Any chance of creating a mail loop here? Could I just use the "bouncesaying" program to do this, or do I have to write my own little autoresponder? Another way of saying this: what happens when you bounce a double bounce? Or do I care to much and should just /dev/null postmaster, as it's not really any better than what I have now. - David Harris Principal Engineer, DRH Internet Services
On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 04:05:15PM -0500, David Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [He doesn't want to see double bounces.] > > How about a autoresponder at the postmaster account which simply replies saying > "to speak to a live human operator, please e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]" and > /dev/null's the message. This way humans sending e-mail to the postmaster > account don't end in frustration.. and automated mailings will either be not > replied to (because there is no return-path) or will get punished with an > e-mail because they didn't properly set their return-path. There isn't any point in doing this for double bounces. Double bounces are caused when both the recipient and sender addresses are munged. No automated response to a double bounce is going to be useful. At our site I estimate 80-90% of the double bounces are from spam. The others are caused by our users sending out email (to bogus addresses) with bogus return addresses (typically typos). If you aren't going to look through the messages and try to figure out if one of your users has something set up wrong and let them know about it, it should be pretty safe to delete double bounces. Though you might want to look at ones that don't have any received headers indicating they came from outside your network, since those are not likely to be spam. > > Does this sound right? Any chance of creating a mail loop here? Who would you even be replying to? It is certainly possible to create a loop here if you do something wrong.
Bruno Wolff III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > There isn't any point in doing this for double bounces. Double bounces are > caused when both the recipient and sender addresses are munged. No automated > response to a double bounce is going to be useful. At our site I estimate > 80-90% of the double bounces are from spam. The others are caused by our > users sending out email (to bogus addresses) with bogus return addresses > (typically typos). > > If you aren't going to look through the messages and try to figure out if > one of your users has something set up wrong and let them know about it, > it should be pretty safe to delete double bounces. Though you might want > to look at ones that don't have any received headers indicating they came > from outside your network, since those are not likely to be spam. [snip] I just didn't want to end up ignoring any message sent by a real user to the postmaster address. Since they would have a real return path, they would get a reply. In talking about the postmater address, RFC 822 says: "Mail sent to that address is to be routed to a person responsible for the site's mail system or to a person with responsibility for general site operation." I didn't want to violate that. But setting something up sounds like too much work for too little gain, so I'll just /dev/null all the postmaster e-mails. - David Harris Principal Engineer, DRH Internet Services
I can't seem to get qmail to work with webmail. Does anyone have any experience with Webmail? When I start webmail up it runs on port 6789. I can hit the port but when I try to log in I get "document contains no data". It works fine on another machine I have running sendmail so I think it has something to do with qmail. Any help would much appreciated. Or if there is a different type of Webmail package for qmail that I should run instead I can do that. Thanks -Nik-
On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 09:47:52AM +0800, Ronald Wiplinger wrote: > > When I create a list with: > > > > ezmlm-make -rdugm -5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ > > /var/qmail/ezmlm/test \ > > /var/qmail/ezmlm/.qmail-test \ > > ronald-test \ > > wiplinger.org I assume 'wplinger.org' is a virtual domain owned by 'ronald' and that you've tested that mail to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' is handled by ~ronald/.qmail-ronald, and that it arrives there. The list name should be 'test', not 'ronald-test', and after ezmlm-make, you need: echo "ronald-test" > /var/qmail/ezmlm/test/inlocal Also, /var/qmail/ezmlm is a funny directory. The list should be created in the home dir of 'ronald' and everything owned by 'ronald', i.e. if you do it as root, you need to chown -R the listdir. > > eqmlm-sub /var/qmail/ezmlm/test [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > eqmlm-sub /var/qmail/ezmlm/test/digist [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > eqmlm-sub /var/qmail/ezmlm/test/mod [EMAIL PROTECTED] If these worked, you made the typos in the E-mail, not in the commands. Again, if you did this as root, you need to: chown -R ronald /var/qmail/ezmlm/test > > Maybe I need to put a reference in /var/qmail/users/assign, but if which > > one? > > +wiplinger-org-test:popuser:103:103:/var/qmail/ezmlm/test::: > > would come in my mind Depends on your /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains. if that has: wiplinger.org:ronald you need a +ronald:ronald:103:103:/var/qmail/ezmlm/test::: > > In the second step I would like to use ezmlm as a special autoreply with > > alias names. It came into my mind, when I read the docs, that it let you > > send single messages of the archive. E.g, some alias name like > > product-2345 will send back the message about this product, which I have test-get-2345 will send back message 2345 from the archive, but why go to the trouble of using ezmlm when all you want is an autoreply? it's trivial to write a perl script to interpret 'product-12345' and return file ...../123/45. Just remeber to assure that 12345 is only digits, otherwise you risk creaing a security hole. In general, send ezmlm questions to the ezmlm list. You will not get a reply on the qmail list. To join the ezmlm list, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To see FAQ and archives, check www.ezmlm.org or mirrors. -- -Sincerely, Fred Fred Lindberg, Inf. Dis., WashU, St. Louis, MO, USA
David L. Nicol writes: > Is there any way to see these if you don't have XFmail? Would > a preprocessor that converts them into attached inline MIME gifs > be too too too tricky? Probably not. > Pestering Mozilla.org wish list to replace the Customizable N-Thing > with the X-Face would result in much greater popularity of X-Faces, Netscape (or Mozilla if you wish) Email *ought* to present the X-Face header. It can presume that it's running in graphical mode, so why not?? The curious thing is that Jamie Zawinski didn't put it in even though "his" Lucid Emacs (now X-Emacs) had them. Yes, wider support for X-Face would be better. -- -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | Government schools are so 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | can outdo them. Homeschool!
Helo All, I have a problem and not too sure how to go about solving it. We have an ezmlm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] which has been running fine for a long time. We would like to outsource xyz.com and run a free email package on it. Now due to this free email (which we dont have much control over), we're expecting some problems such as when a user wants to subscribe to this mailing list. What will happen is mail destined to xyz.com will be sent to the outsourced "free email" server. We will have an account on there [EMAIL PROTECTED] which will be forwarded to our original server [EMAIL PROTECTED] (we will change the configs etc on the original server -- also we change the outgoing fields using ezmlm to make it appear as if its still coming from xyz.com) The problem is when a user wants to subscribe. He/she sends a subscription request to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (we can forward mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]). So, ezmlm handles it correctly and sends a reply back to the user asking them to reply to that email. Now that email will have a REPLY-TO field as [EMAIL PROTECTED] so a user cant reply to this cause no such user exists on the now free email package etc. the message will just get bounced back. If there was a way to change the field only for subscription requests such that the reply-to contains email.xyz.com instead of xyz.com ?? Im not sure what to do about this. I have one or two ideas but im wondering if anyone has anymore to suggest. Any suggestions would be greatly apreciated wal
> 1º - The POP3 service is not initializing on startup, a have to go to the > /etc/rc.d/init.d and manually start qmail-pop3d.init (./qmail-pop3d.init start) errm, are You sure You added the command starting qmail-pop3d in Your startup script? > 2º - When I test the POP3 service, after I start it manually, telneting the > POP3 port (telnet 192.168.100.1 110) this is what I receive: > > ------------------------- > > [root@exion /root]# telnet 192.168.100.1 110 > Trying 192.168.100.1... > Connected to 192.168.100.1. > Escape character is '^]'. > +OK <1405.941834174@checkpassword> > user mike > +OK > pass 1234 > -ERR this user has no $HOME/Maildir > Connection closed by foreign host. has that user a maildir called Maildir and are all the rights ok? dd
> |>here's the whole script...short answer is csh: > |> > |>#!/bin/sh > | > | That's the problem: you're using Bourne shell syntax in the C Shell. > | My csh skills are rusty; I can't remember how to redirect stderr. > > In his case, I think he needs to replace: > > 2>&1 | > > with: > > |& i had the same question and had this answer: You can use this notation command >& file_name but this will stderr AND stdout to the same file. stderr comes to the beginning of the file and the rest is stdout. btw the operator mentioned above (|&) didn't work in my tcsh and csh. maybe the versions are different, dunno... love, peace etc dd
hi errm, why does qmail let EVERY user has his/her own mailing list (the [EMAIL PROTECTED] thing i mean). whatif every user creates a mailing list and floods the server with thousands of mail this way? is there a way to prevent this? thanks, love & peace and stuff, dd
Kindest, I am having some problems with the setup provided from Paul Greg. I get these errors in the log when trying to get incoming mail routed to the users mailbox; Nov 7 11:20:53 enterprise qmail: 941970053.322851 new msg 708801 Nov 7 11:20:53 enterprise qmail: 941970053.323160 info msg 708801: = bytes 822 from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 4445 uid 7791 Nov 7 11:20:53 enterprise qmail: 941970053.334169 starting delivery 5: = msg 708801 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nov 7 11:20:53 enterprise qmail: 941970053.334456 status: local 1/10 = remote 0/20 Nov 7 11:20:53 enterprise qmail: 941970053.366126 delivery 5: failure: = Sorry,_no_mailbox_here_by_that_name._(#5.1.1)/ Nov 7 11:20:53 enterprise qmail: 941970053.366417 status: local 0/10 = remote 0/20 Nov 7 11:20:53 enterprise qmail: 941970053.386940 bounce msg 708801 qp = 4448 Nov 7 11:20:53 enterprise qmail: 941970053.388313 end msg 708801 However.. all seems to be in order; enterprise:/var/qmail# more users/assign=20 =3Dtest-net-user:popuser:888:888:/var/qmail/popboxes/test-net/test::: enterprise:/var/qmail#=20 Beneath are the permissions on the various dirs and files; enterprise:/var/qmail# ls -l total 10 drwxr-sr-x 2 alias qmail 1024 Nov 7 00:25 alias drwxr-xr-x 2 root qmail 1024 Nov 7 00:14 bin drwxr-xr-x 2 root qmail 1024 Nov 6 20:19 boot drwxr-xr-x 2 root qmail 1024 Nov 7 10:20 control drwxr-xr-x 3 root qmail 1024 Nov 6 20:31 doc drwxr-xr-x 10 root qmail 1024 Nov 6 20:19 man drwx------ 3 popuser popuser 1024 Nov 7 11:18 popboxes drwxr-x--- 11 qmailq qmail 1024 Nov 6 20:19 queue -rwxr-xr-x 1 root qmail 204 Nov 7 00:57 rc drwxr-xr-x 2 root qmail 1024 Nov 7 10:10 users enterprise:/var/qmail# =20 enterprise:/var/qmail/popboxes# ls -l total 1 drwx------ 3 popuser popuser 1024 Nov 7 11:19 test-net enterprise:/var/qmail/popboxes#=20 enterprise:/var/qmail/popboxes/test-net# ls -l total 1 drwx------ 3 popuser popuser 1024 Nov 7 11:20 user enterprise:/var/qmail/popboxes/test-net#=20 enterprise:/var/qmail/popboxes/test-net/user# ls -la total 4 drwx------ 3 popuser popuser 1024 Nov 7 11:20 . drwx------ 3 popuser popuser 1024 Nov 7 11:19 .. -rwx------ 1 popuser popuser 11 Nov 7 11:20 .qmail drwx------ 2 popuser popuser 1024 Nov 7 11:19 Maildir enterprise:/var/qmail/popboxes/test-net/user#=20 enterprise:/var/qmail/popboxes/test-net/user# more .qmail=20 ./Maildir/ enterprise:/var/qmail/popboxes/test-net/user#=20 What have I done wrong?? Can anyone point out why this is not working. I am trying to get support for multiple pop3 boxes without having to set up individual user accounts on this system. I have changed the domain name and user.. so test.net is not the correct domain.. however; all mail delivery worked fine before I begun to implement this.=20 Would apriciate any input! Have a real nice weekend.. Kindest, J=F8rgen