qmail Digest 8 Dec 1999 11:00:01 -0000 Issue 843
Topics (messages 34031 through 34083):
Re: Secondary mail Q
34031 by: Peter Gradwell
Re: Sendmail Virtusertable equivalent?
34032 by: Peter Gradwell
34039 by: Richard Roderick
34041 by: Peter Gradwell
34043 by: cmikk.uswest.net
34044 by: Richard Roderick
34046 by: Richard Roderick
Re: secondary mail relay: rcpthosts AND SMTPROUTES
34033 by: Timothy L. Mayo
34035 by: Timothy L. Mayo
Re: Encrypting all outgoing messages
34034 by: Magnus Bodin
test, ignore
34036 by: Chris Santerre
Old messages in Maildir/tmp
34037 by: Fred Backman
34064 by: Sam
newbie needs help
34038 by: Dewald Strauss
Re: Mail forwarding on qmail
34040 by: Ronny Haryanto
34062 by: qmail.col7.metta.lk
34072 by: Ben Beuchler
34074 by: Jim Gilliver
begging for mercy, I am swallowing pride.
34042 by: Chris Santerre
34048 by: Soffen, Matthew
34049 by: Chris Santerre
34050 by: Eric Dahnke
34051 by: Chris Santerre
34053 by: thomas.erskine-dated-bee2da07f8f27241.crc.ca
34054 by: Peter Gradwell
34055 by: Philip Gabbert
test,ignore or read before you flame me.
34045 by: Chris Santerre
34047 by: Shawn P. Stanley
QMAIL + LDAP + QUOTA implementation
34052 by: Curtis Generous
THANK YOU EVERYONE!!!!!
34056 by: Chris Santerre
34057 by: Julian L.C. Brown
34058 by: Dustin Miller
34060 by: Fabrice Scemama
34061 by: Julian L.C. Brown
34077 by: Diego A. Puertas F.
34078 by: Dustin Miller
Problems receiving mail
34059 by: Paul Charsley
qmailadmin/vpopmail strange behaviour
34063 by: Marco Leeflang
Filtering on "MAIL FROM:"
34065 by: Stefaan A Eeckels
34066 by: Dustin Miller
34067 by: Sam
34068 by: Adam D . McKenna
34069 by: Vince Vielhaber
34071 by: Chris Thorman
Restrictions on "MAIL FROM:"
34070 by: Ronny Haryanto
Re: Attachments]
34073 by: Bill Hults
Strange message
34075 by: Jeff Lush
syslog on RH 6.1
34076 by: Mate Wierdl
Pop and relay not working together
34079 by: Amit Vadehra
Virtual domains stuff
34080 by: Michael Boman
34081 by: Magnus Bodin
34082 by: Häffelin Holger
34083 by: 'Michael Boman'
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At 07:32 PM 06/12/99 -0500, Bob C. Ruddy wrote:
>I'm looking to set up a secondary mail server for when my primary is
>unreachable. I don't want qmail to deliver the email though just queue it
>up till the primary mail server comes online. I looked through the faq but
>did not see anything. Can someone point me in the right direction.
yeah, just bung the domain in the rcpthosts file on the second server and
then in the DNS give it a higher MX preference value than the primary server.
Then, qmail on the secondary MX will accept the mail for the domain and try
and deliver it to the primary MX, queuing and retrying on the way...
I think it gives up after a message has been in the queue for 7 days or
something. Plenty of time for you to try something else :)
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At 08:12 PM 06/12/99 -0500, Jay Soffian wrote:
>I presume you've read the qmail instructions and are familiar with the
>basics of setup. I did leave out a pretty important step though... you
>need to add the virtual domains (the LHS in the virtusertable) to
>either /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts on
>/var/qmail/control/morercpthosts (I used morercpthosts, don't forget
>to run qmail-newmrh).
and of course, don't forget that on the qmail website there is a brilliant
use of (either) sed (or awk, I forget which) to generate an rcpthosts file
from a virtualdomains file, which when added to the bottom of your "build"
script adds one further level of marvelousness!
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At 11:50 AM 12/7/1999 +0000, Peter Gradwell wrote:
>At 08:12 PM 06/12/99 -0500, Jay Soffian wrote:
>
>>I presume you've read the qmail instructions and are familiar with the
>>basics of setup. I did leave out a pretty important step though... you
>>need to add the virtual domains (the LHS in the virtusertable) to
>>either /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts on
>>/var/qmail/control/morercpthosts (I used morercpthosts, don't forget
>>to run qmail-newmrh).
>
>and of course, don't forget that on the qmail website there is a brilliant
>use of (either) sed (or awk, I forget which) to generate an rcpthosts file
>from a virtualdomains file, which when added to the bottom of your
>"build" script adds one further level of marvelousness!
I don't believe this deals with mail relaying? (SMTP queuing)
Yes? No?
Richard
At 07:32 AM 07/12/99 -0800, you wrote:
>I don't believe this deals with mail relaying? (SMTP queuing)
well how do you mean. By putting a domain into the rcpthosts file, qmail
will effectively accept the mail, queue it and deliver it to the better
preference MX hosts. [1]
So, if you wanted to relay mail for specific domains, then yes, you could
enter them into the rcpthosts file...
If on the other hand you wanted to run a smart host mail relay for your
users, then you would need to enable selective relaying, and Chris Johnson
has written how to do this on this website (linked from www.qmail.org).
peter
[1] Which is why, if your mail server is the best MX preference host, but
ony has the domain name listed in rcpthosts and not virtualdomains or
locals, you get a bounce akin to "uh oh, that domain is in my rcpthosts,
and i'm the best pref mx, but it's not in my locals or virtualdomains file"...
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On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 17:48:08 -0500 (EST) , "Michael T. Halligan" writes:
> qmail is very unlogical if you have been using sendmail for five years..
> heck I know people who have been using qmail for 3 years and none of you
> can explain to me how to do the equivalent of /etc/mail/virtusertable ..
Try fastforward.
Basically, you feed a list of lines of the form:
user@host:<address>;
user@:<address>; <--- host is wildcard
@host:<address>; <--- user is wildcard
to a program called setforward, which records these in a hash
file.
Then, in ~alias/.qmail-default, you put
|fastforward <name of hash file>
This should do exactly what you want, if I understand correctly.
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At 03:45 PM 12/7/1999 +0000, Peter Gradwell wrote:
>At 07:32 AM 07/12/99 -0800, you wrote:
>
>>I don't believe this deals with mail relaying? (SMTP queuing)
>
>well how do you mean. By putting a domain into the rcpthosts file, qmail
>will effectively accept the mail, queue it and deliver it to the better
>preference MX hosts. [1]
>
>So, if you wanted to relay mail for specific domains, then yes, you could
>enter them into the rcpthosts file...
I was just pointing out that reading the virtualdomains file to make
rcpthosts will not deal with queuing. Not that anything didn't work in
qmail. Get it?
Richard
At 10:05 AM 12/7/1999 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 17:48:08 -0500 (EST) , "Michael T. Halligan" writes:
> > qmail is very unlogical if you have been using sendmail for five years..
> > heck I know people who have been using qmail for 3 years and none of you
> > can explain to me how to do the equivalent of /etc/mail/virtusertable ..
>
>Try fastforward.
>
>Basically, you feed a list of lines of the form:
>
>user@host:<address>;
>user@:<address>; <--- host is wildcard
>@host:<address>; <--- user is wildcard
>
>to a program called setforward, which records these in a hash
>file.
>
>Then, in ~alias/.qmail-default, you put
>
>|fastforward <name of hash file>
>
>This should do exactly what you want, if I understand correctly.
Great info, thanks. More of these notes need to be so simple!!!! :)
Richard
On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, David L. Nicol wrote:
> "Timothy L. Mayo" wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, David L. Nicol wrote:
>
> > > And add a line in control/smtproutes too; otherwise you'll
> > > bounce messages as qmail mistakenly interprets that it is supposed
> > > to be the end recipient. This starts happening only after you
> > > actually modify the MX records.
> > >
> >
> > No. An smtproutes entry is NOT needed. The only time you would have a
> > problem would be if you placed your server at the same MX or higher
> > priority as the machine you were serving as the secondary for. (Remeber
> > that a HIGHER MX number is a LOWER priority.)
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Timothy L. Mayo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Senior Systems Administrator
> > localconnect(sm)
> > http://www.localconnect.net/
>
>
>
> Yes, that is what I thought, too, until I did it. The primary MX has
> priority five, the secondary has priority 20, and I set the qmail box
> to have priority 200 and what happened to the occasional piece of
> e-mail that got to it? It was bounced, with a message that said
> "Although I am listed as the primary mx for this host, I haven't a
> clue what to do with this piece of e-mail." (from memory.)
>
Then something was wrong with either your DNS setup or the name server
that the qmail secondary MX server was using. My instructions for ONLY
adding it to the rcpthosts file were based on it working exactly that way
for several domains for which I do just exactly what I said and they work
exactly as documented. Mail is queued and forwarded when the primary
comes back on line.
Why did your qmail box think it was the best preference MX host?
>
> After concernedly rereading the FAQ I added lines to smtproutes
> and things are now working properly: the occasional piece of overflow
> that
> wanders into the box in question is now held briefly and then forwarded.
>
>
> The fact that I had no "locals" file may have had something to do with
> it; although the documentation seems to say that a locals file is not
> needed if you only accept local mail for "me."
>
>
>
> The moral of the story? Set up test cases before altering your
> production
> systems, no matter how well-documented and "authoritatively" asserted
> the
> feature may be.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________
> David Nicol 816.235.1187 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Corel Linux is Debian with qmail preinstalled
>
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Timothy L. Mayo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Senior Systems Administrator
localconnect(sm)
http://www.localconnect.net/
The National Business Network Inc. http://www.nb.net/
One Monroeville Center, Suite 850
Monroeville, PA 15146
(412) 810-8888 Phone
(412) 810-8886 Fax
You do NOT need the smtproutes entry if your DNS is set up correctly.
On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, Dustin Miller wrote:
> Can we get a consensus here?
>
> :)
> _____
>
> Dustin Miller, President
> WebFusionDevelopmentIncorporated
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: david [mailto:david]On Behalf Of David L. Nicol
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 1999 4:10 PM
> To: Timothy L. Mayo
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: secondary mail relay: rcpthosts AND SMTPROUTES
>
>
> "Timothy L. Mayo" wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, David L. Nicol wrote:
>
> > > And add a line in control/smtproutes too; otherwise you'll
> > > bounce messages as qmail mistakenly interprets that it is supposed
> > > to be the end recipient. This starts happening only after you
> > > actually modify the MX records.
> > >
> >
> > No. An smtproutes entry is NOT needed. The only time you would have a
> > problem would be if you placed your server at the same MX or higher
> > priority as the machine you were serving as the secondary for. (Remeber
> > that a HIGHER MX number is a LOWER priority.)
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Timothy L. Mayo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Senior Systems Administrator
> > localconnect(sm)
> > http://www.localconnect.net/
>
>
>
> Yes, that is what I thought, too, until I did it. The primary MX has
> priority five, the secondary has priority 20, and I set the qmail box
> to have priority 200 and what happened to the occasional piece of
> e-mail that got to it? It was bounced, with a message that said
> "Although I am listed as the primary mx for this host, I haven't a
> clue what to do with this piece of e-mail." (from memory.)
>
>
> After concernedly rereading the FAQ I added lines to smtproutes
> and things are now working properly: the occasional piece of overflow
> that
> wanders into the box in question is now held briefly and then forwarded.
>
>
> The fact that I had no "locals" file may have had something to do with
> it; although the documentation seems to say that a locals file is not
> needed if you only accept local mail for "me."
>
>
>
> The moral of the story? Set up test cases before altering your
> production
> systems, no matter how well-documented and "authoritatively" asserted
> the
> feature may be.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________
> David Nicol 816.235.1187 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Corel Linux is Debian with qmail preinstalled
>
>
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On Tue, Dec 07, 1999 at 11:58:44AM +0100, Mikael Schmidt wrote:
> Hello, I have found a daemon for sendmail that allows encrypting of
> outgoing messages, now I wonder if there is any daemon for qmail that can
> do the same thing?
How do you want to encrypt the mails?
For each recipient, or with the same key to all recipients?
The simplest and best is to create a local alias that encrypts and resends
incoming mail. It can log and behave exactly as you want and is only run
when mail is delivered.
Note that you have to behave nicely to attachments.
/magnus
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Why do I have old messages (as in 3-4 days old) in Maildir/tmp?
Shouldn't these be moved to Maildir/new at delivery? If this isn't
always the case, can someone please explain why they haven't been moved
and also when, if ever, they will be.
Cheers
Fred
Fred Backman writes:
> Why do I have old messages (as in 3-4 days old) in Maildir/tmp?
> Shouldn't these be moved to Maildir/new at delivery? If this isn't
> always the case, can someone please explain why they haven't been moved
> and also when, if ever, they will be.
Stuff in tmp is partially-delivered mail where the delivery had to be
aborted for some reason -- process killed for some reason, etc...
It should be deleted after 1-2 days. Whatever reads from the Maildir is
responsible for deleting stale stuff out of tmp. I wouldn't worry too much
if its 3-4 days old, but if you see stuff older than that, and you do
actually read mail from that Maildir, whatever software you're using needs
to be fixed.
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Hi ppl,
Got Qmail and vpopmail installed, and installed qmail-analog
Now this may seem like a stupid question, but I don't know
what else to do.
How do I get the output from the qmail-analog commands ?
What do I have to type to see the stats ?
thanks
Dewald
On 07-Dec-1999, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 1. I'd like to make a copy on all outgoing email to a single user account.
> Is it possible to do that at qmail? How it works?
Take a look at ~alias/.qmail-msglog
> 2. I'd like to make a copy all incoming email of a user account to another
> user account. Is it possible to do that at qmail? How it works? I have
> tried to make an entry at .qmail file to forward the mail, but no mail left
> at the original account. How to COPY instead of FORWARD?
Put two entries in the .qmail file, one for the original, one for the
copy.
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On Tue, Dec 07, 1999 at 06:20:34PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
> 2. I'd like to make a copy all incoming email of a user account to another
> user account. Is it possible to do that at qmail? How it works? I have
> tried to make an entry at .qmail file to forward the mail, but no mail left
> at the original account. How to COPY instead of FORWARD?
this is what my .qmail file looks like
./Maildir/
&[EMAIL PROTECTED]
this puts one message in the Maildir and one message to the account
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue, 7 Dec 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 2. I'd like to make a copy all incoming email of a user account to another
> user account. Is it possible to do that at qmail? How it works? I have
> tried to make an entry at .qmail file to forward the mail, but no mail left
> at the original account. How to COPY instead of FORWARD?
I haven't actually tried this, but I would assume this would work:
---
cat > .qmail
&<forwarding address>
./Maildir/
---
Ben
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> > 2. I'd like to make a copy all incoming email of a user account to
another
> > user account. Is it possible to do that at qmail? How it works? I have
> > tried to make an entry at .qmail file to forward the mail, but no mail
left
> > at the original account. How to COPY instead of FORWARD?
>
> I haven't actually tried this, but I would assume this would work:
>
> ---
> cat > .qmail
> &<forwarding address>
> ./Maildir/
> ---
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Santerre [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 10:54 AM
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: begging for mercy, I am swallowing pride.
> Importance: High
>
> I hate when people keep posting stupid stuff on a list. I am on numerous
> lists
> like everyone else. When you get these newbies that ask the stupidest
> things you
> have to grin and bear it. But when they keep beating a dead horse, you
> want to
> beat the term FAQ and HOWTO into there vocabulary. Well now I feel like I
> need
> the beating. All I want to do is get off this list. I got on when I was
> thinking
> of using qmail on one of our servers, but I didn't use it. So I get tons
> of
> things I don't need. I have tried just about everything. If somebody can't
> figure out this problem, I'll have to write a script that filters this
> stuff
> out. the following is an email I sent to another person that best
> describes the
> problem. Basically the return-path address in the header is the same as
> what I
> try to unsubscribe as, but it just says not in the list. PLEASE help me
> figure
> this out so I can stop wasting everyone's time.
>
> Here goes:
>
> If you can figure this one out for me, I am in your debt. I hate pasting
> in all
> this stuff, but I don't have a choice at this point. I have done the usual
> unsubscribe with no effect. Yes it tells me I am not in the list. So I
> searched
> the
> return path as you and about ten others have mentioned, including the
> ezmlm
> itself. It gives me the same name that I tried unsubscribing with. As
> with
> every
> other admin in the world, I have a lot of email addresses. I have tried
> them
> all.
> Here is a list of the email addresses I have tried to unsubscribe as:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (An old email I inherited from previous admin's web
> design)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (this is an internal email id set by emwac)
> and the 1st 3 again with @mole.paginc.com
>
> It never gives me an error about my unsubscription, so I no they are not
> malformed.
> This branch of the company is using EMWAC email on an NT server w/ Norton
> antivirus
> email gateway. I don't think any of this matters but I figured I'd give
> you the
> whole scoop. So here's what it gives me:
>
>
> Received:
> from SMTP (unverified [208.165.176.194]) by
> mole.paginc.com
> (EMWAC
>
> SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> Tue,
> 07
> Dec
> 1999 09:11:58 -0500
> Received:
> from muncher.math.uic.edu ([131.193.178.181]) by
> 208.165.176.194
> (Norton
> AntiVirus for Internet Email Gateways 1.0) ; Tue, 07 Dec
> 1999
> 14:11:57 0000
> (GMT)
> Received:
> (qmail 6030 invoked by uid 1002); 7 Dec 1999 14:06:32
> -0000
> Mailing-List:
> contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm
> Date:
> 7 Dec 1999 14:06:32 -0000
> Message-ID:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> From:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Reply-To:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:
> ezmlm response
> Delivered-To:
> responder for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Received:
> (qmail 5512 invoked from network); 7 Dec 1999 14:06:32
> -0000
> Received:
> from mole.paginc.com (208.165.176.194) by
> muncher.math.uic.edu
> with SMTP;
> 7 Dec 1999 14:06:32 -0000
> Received:
> from SMTP (unverified [172.16.1.101]) by mole.paginc.com
> (EMWAC
>
> SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> Tue,
> 07
> Dec
> 1999 09:10:13 -0500
> Received:
> from paginc.com ([172.16.1.188]) by 172.16.1.101 (Norton
> AntiVirus
> for
> Internet Email Gateways 1.0) ; Tue, 07 Dec 1999 14:10:12
> 0000
> (GMT)
> X-Mozilla-Status:
> 8003
> X-Mozilla-Status2:
> 00000000
> X-UIDL:
> B0000494508.MSG
>
>
>
>
> Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list.
>
> To confirm that you would like
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> removed from this mailing list, please send an empty reply to this
> address:
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Your mailer should have a Reply feature that uses this address
> automatically.
>
> I haven't checked whether your address is currently on the mailing list.
> To see what address you used to subscribe, look at the messages you are
> receiving from the mailing list. Each message has your address hidden
> inside its return path; for example, [EMAIL PROTECTED] receives messages
> with return path ...-God=heaven.af.mil.
>
>
> See http://pobox.com/~djb/qmail.html for more information about qmail.
>
> Please read http://pobox.com/~djb/qmail/faq.html before sending your
> question to the qmail mailing list.
>
>
> --- Here are the ezmlm command addresses.
>
> I can handle administrative requests automatically.
> Just send an empty note to any of these addresses:
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Receive future messages sent to the mailing list.
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Stop receiving messages.
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Retrieve a copy of message 12345 from the archive.
>
> DO NOT SEND ADMINISTRATIVE REQUESTS TO THE MAILING LIST!
> If you do, I won't see them, and subscribers will yell at you.
>
> To specify [EMAIL PROTECTED] as your subscription address, send mail
> to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
> I'll send a confirmation message to that address; when you receive that
> message, simply reply to it to complete your subscription.
>
>
> --- Below this line is a copy of the request I received.
>
> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Received: (qmail 5512 invoked from network); 7 Dec 1999 14:06:32 -0000
> Received: from mole.paginc.com (208.165.176.194)
> by muncher.math.uic.edu with SMTP; 7 Dec 1999 14:06:32 -0000
> Received: from SMTP (unverified [172.16.1.101]) by mole.paginc.com
> (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> Tue, 07 Dec 1999 09:10:13 -0500
> Received: from paginc.com ([172.16.1.188]) by 172.16.1.101
> (Norton AntiVirus for Internet Email Gateways 1.0) ;
> Tue, 07 Dec 1999 14:10:12 0000 (GMT)
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 08:57:43 -0500
> From: Chris Santerre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Organization: PAG
> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U)
> X-Accept-Language: en
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: (no subject)
> Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
> boundary="------------B99F3EC93EF09DB5C01BB652"
>
> << File: Card for Chris Santerre >>
> Did you in fact reply to the unsubscribe confirmation message? I don't
> see your response or the final unsubscribe message enclosed.
>
Yeah. I got the "not in list' message. Thanks.
I've never seen people work so hard at getting rid of me before. Almost comforting ;)
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I hear ya,
I consider myself a fairly accomplished mail and unix sys admin, and
can't get off the fetchmail list. Luckily I subscribed to that list with
an address that was dispensible. My solution was to never retrieve that
account again.
Have you tried all the functionality afforded to you by the list, like
ask for a list of subscribers? I think ezmlm can do that, I know
majordomo can. See if you're on the list that is produced by that
command/message. If so, separate out the text from that message which
shows your address, and post it to the list along with the commands/msgs
you're sending to remove yourself. If not, you best switch to qmail,
because you'll be on the list for life.
Saludos Eric Dahnke
Chris Santerre escribió:
>
> I hate when people keep posting stupid stuff on a list. I am on numerous lists
> like everyone else. When you get these newbies that ask the stupidest things you
> have to grin and bear it. But when they keep beating a dead horse, you want to
> beat the term FAQ and HOWTO into there vocabulary. Well now I feel like I need
> the beating. All I want to do is get off this list. I got on when I was thinking
> of using qmail on one of our servers, but I didn't use it. So I get tons of
> things I don't need. I have tried just about everything. If somebody can't
> figure out this problem, I'll have to write a script that filters this stuff
> out. the following is an email I sent to another person that best describes the
> problem. Basically the return-path address in the header is the same as what I
> try to unsubscribe as, but it just says not in the list. PLEASE help me figure
> this out so I can stop wasting everyone's time.
>
> Here goes:
>
> If you can figure this one out for me, I am in your debt. I hate pasting in all
> this stuff, but I don't have a choice at this point. I have done the usual
> unsubscribe with no effect. Yes it tells me I am not in the list. So I searched
> the
> return path as you and about ten others have mentioned, including the ezmlm
> itself. It gives me the same name that I tried unsubscribing with. As with
> every
> other admin in the world, I have a lot of email addresses. I have tried them
> all.
> Here is a list of the email addresses I have tried to unsubscribe as:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (An old email I inherited from previous admin's web design)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (this is an internal email id set by emwac)
> and the 1st 3 again with @mole.paginc.com
>
> It never gives me an error about my unsubscription, so I no they are not
> malformed.
> This branch of the company is using EMWAC email on an NT server w/ Norton
> antivirus
> email gateway. I don't think any of this matters but I figured I'd give you the
> whole scoop. So here's what it gives me:
>
> Received:
> from SMTP (unverified [208.165.176.194]) by mole.paginc.com
> (EMWAC
>
> SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue,
> 07
> Dec
> 1999 09:11:58 -0500
> Received:
> from muncher.math.uic.edu ([131.193.178.181]) by
> 208.165.176.194
> (Norton
> AntiVirus for Internet Email Gateways 1.0) ; Tue, 07 Dec 1999
> 14:11:57 0000
> (GMT)
> Received:
> (qmail 6030 invoked by uid 1002); 7 Dec 1999 14:06:32 -0000
> Mailing-List:
> contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm
> Date:
> 7 Dec 1999 14:06:32 -0000
> Message-ID:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> From:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Reply-To:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:
> ezmlm response
> Delivered-To:
> responder for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Received:
> (qmail 5512 invoked from network); 7 Dec 1999 14:06:32 -0000
> Received:
> from mole.paginc.com (208.165.176.194) by muncher.math.uic.edu
> with SMTP;
> 7 Dec 1999 14:06:32 -0000
> Received:
> from SMTP (unverified [172.16.1.101]) by mole.paginc.com (EMWAC
>
> SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue,
> 07
> Dec
> 1999 09:10:13 -0500
> Received:
> from paginc.com ([172.16.1.188]) by 172.16.1.101 (Norton
> AntiVirus
> for
> Internet Email Gateways 1.0) ; Tue, 07 Dec 1999 14:10:12 0000
> (GMT)
> X-Mozilla-Status:
> 8003
> X-Mozilla-Status2:
> 00000000
> X-UIDL:
> B0000494508.MSG
>
> Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list.
>
> To confirm that you would like
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> removed from this mailing list, please send an empty reply to this address:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Your mailer should have a Reply feature that uses this address automatically.
>
> I haven't checked whether your address is currently on the mailing list.
> To see what address you used to subscribe, look at the messages you are
> receiving from the mailing list. Each message has your address hidden
> inside its return path; for example, [EMAIL PROTECTED] receives messages
> with return path ...-God=heaven.af.mil.
>
> See http://pobox.com/~djb/qmail.html for more information about qmail.
>
> Please read http://pobox.com/~djb/qmail/faq.html before sending your
> question to the qmail mailing list.
>
> --- Here are the ezmlm command addresses.
>
> I can handle administrative requests automatically.
> Just send an empty note to any of these addresses:
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Receive future messages sent to the mailing list.
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Stop receiving messages.
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Retrieve a copy of message 12345 from the archive.
>
> DO NOT SEND ADMINISTRATIVE REQUESTS TO THE MAILING LIST!
> If you do, I won't see them, and subscribers will yell at you.
>
> To specify [EMAIL PROTECTED] as your subscription address, send mail
> to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
> I'll send a confirmation message to that address; when you receive that
> message, simply reply to it to complete your subscription.
>
> --- Below this line is a copy of the request I received.
>
> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Received: (qmail 5512 invoked from network); 7 Dec 1999 14:06:32 -0000
> Received: from mole.paginc.com (208.165.176.194)
> by muncher.math.uic.edu with SMTP; 7 Dec 1999 14:06:32 -0000
> Received: from SMTP (unverified [172.16.1.101]) by mole.paginc.com
> (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> Tue, 07 Dec 1999 09:10:13 -0500
> Received: from paginc.com ([172.16.1.188]) by 172.16.1.101
> (Norton AntiVirus for Internet Email Gateways 1.0) ;
> Tue, 07 Dec 1999 14:10:12 0000 (GMT)
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 08:57:43 -0500
> From: Chris Santerre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Organization: PAG
> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U)
> X-Accept-Language: en
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: (no subject)
> Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
> boundary="------------B99F3EC93EF09DB5C01BB652"
*silly grin* I'm not complaining by any means. Except for a few flames, everyone has
been
great. I am now trying it without the reply to address set to admin. Do you think this
would have made a difference when I originals subscribed as well?
I'm copying this to the list, just so everybody knows I'm trying that. Again I am sorry
about al this wasted time and email that doesn't even have to do with Qmail as someone
pointed out. The more I reply the more I feel like an idiot.
"Timothy L. Mayo" wrote:
> When the list is given the information it needs, people usually do try to
> help. :) The times it is frustrating is when people ask for help, don't
> give the necessary information and then complain when they don't get the
> correct help.
>
> Have you tried setting your reply to address so that it matches your
> address or removing that entry altogether?
>
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On Tue, 7 Dec 1999, Chris Santerre wrote:
[snip]
> Yeah. I got the "not in list' message. Thanks.
> I've never seen people work so hard at getting rid of me before. Almost comforting ;)
One thing that should always be successful in getting off an ezmlm list
would be arranging for your current server to bounce any messages to you
from the list for a while. (I forget what "a while" is.) After "a while"
ezmlm will try to probe your account and if the probe also bounces it will
remove you. I could tell you how to arrange to bounce mail with qmail,
but that's not going to help you. :-)
--
"Life is much too important to be taken seriously."
Thomas Erskine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (613) 998-2836
At 11:27 AM 07/12/99 -0500, you wrote:
> > Did you in fact reply to the unsubscribe confirmation message? I don't
> > see your response or the final unsubscribe message enclosed.
> >
>
>Yeah. I got the "not in list' message. Thanks.
>I've never seen people work so hard at getting rid of me before. Almost
>comforting ;)
it would appear that his anti-virus software is swallowing the return-path
header, thus making it rather tricky to work out what address it is he's
subscribed to. I've sent him to the logs.
(Is this list members only? It would make life much easier if it was.)
peter
--
peter at gradwell dot com; online @ http://www.gradwell.com/
The email account that's I'm using to subscribe to this list an alias of the real
account. There is no user by the name of gp on my system.
But I do note in the Delivered-To it has the email address that I'm subscribed with:
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Might want to check that out. Known out qmail works, you can safely see that the
email address it was sent to was [EMAIL PROTECTED], my email address.
So in a sense, it does have your emial address in every email message, you just have
to know where to look ..
Besides, you could always bounce all messsages that contain [EMAIL PROTECTED] in
the To:, CC:; or BCC: header lines. ;)
Philip
Eric Dahnke wrote:
> I hear ya,
>
> I consider myself a fairly accomplished mail and unix sys admin, and
> can't get off the fetchmail list. Luckily I subscribed to that list with
> an address that was dispensible. My solution was to never retrieve that
> account again.
>
> Have you tried all the functionality afforded to you by the list, like
> ask for a list of subscribers? I think ezmlm can do that, I know
> majordomo can. See if you're on the list that is produced by that
> command/message. If so, separate out the text from that message which
> shows your address, and post it to the list along with the commands/msgs
> you're sending to remove yourself. If not, you best switch to qmail,
> because you'll be on the list for life.
>
> Saludos Eric Dahnke
>
> Chris Santerre escribió:
> >
> > I hate when people keep posting stupid stuff on a list. I am on numerous lists
> > like everyone else. When you get these newbies that ask the stupidest things you
> > have to grin and bear it. But when they keep beating a dead horse, you want to
> > beat the term FAQ and HOWTO into there vocabulary. Well now I feel like I need
> > the beating. All I want to do is get off this list. I got on when I was thinking
> > of using qmail on one of our servers, but I didn't use it. So I get tons of
> > things I don't need. I have tried just about everything. If somebody can't
> > figure out this problem, I'll have to write a script that filters this stuff
> > out. the following is an email I sent to another person that best describes the
> > problem. Basically the return-path address in the header is the same as what I
> > try to unsubscribe as, but it just says not in the list. PLEASE help me figure
> > this out so I can stop wasting everyone's time.
> >
> > Here goes:
> >
> > If you can figure this one out for me, I am in your debt. I hate pasting in all
> > this stuff, but I don't have a choice at this point. I have done the usual
> > unsubscribe with no effect. Yes it tells me I am not in the list. So I searched
> > the
> > return path as you and about ten others have mentioned, including the ezmlm
> > itself. It gives me the same name that I tried unsubscribing with. As with
> > every
> > other admin in the world, I have a lot of email addresses. I have tried them
> > all.
> > Here is a list of the email addresses I have tried to unsubscribe as:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (An old email I inherited from previous admin's web design)
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (this is an internal email id set by emwac)
> > and the 1st 3 again with @mole.paginc.com
> >
> > It never gives me an error about my unsubscription, so I no they are not
> > malformed.
> > This branch of the company is using EMWAC email on an NT server w/ Norton
> > antivirus
> > email gateway. I don't think any of this matters but I figured I'd give you the
> > whole scoop. So here's what it gives me:
> >
> > Received:
> > from SMTP (unverified [208.165.176.194]) by mole.paginc.com
> > (EMWAC
> >
> > SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue,
> > 07
> > Dec
> > 1999 09:11:58 -0500
> > Received:
> > from muncher.math.uic.edu ([131.193.178.181]) by
> > 208.165.176.194
> > (Norton
> > AntiVirus for Internet Email Gateways 1.0) ; Tue, 07 Dec 1999
> > 14:11:57 0000
> > (GMT)
> > Received:
> > (qmail 6030 invoked by uid 1002); 7 Dec 1999 14:06:32 -0000
> > Mailing-List:
> > contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm
> > Date:
> > 7 Dec 1999 14:06:32 -0000
> > Message-ID:
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > From:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Reply-To:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:
> > ezmlm response
> > Delivered-To:
> > responder for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Received:
> > (qmail 5512 invoked from network); 7 Dec 1999 14:06:32 -0000
> > Received:
> > from mole.paginc.com (208.165.176.194) by muncher.math.uic.edu
> > with SMTP;
> > 7 Dec 1999 14:06:32 -0000
> > Received:
> > from SMTP (unverified [172.16.1.101]) by mole.paginc.com (EMWAC
> >
> > SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue,
> > 07
> > Dec
> > 1999 09:10:13 -0500
> > Received:
> > from paginc.com ([172.16.1.188]) by 172.16.1.101 (Norton
> > AntiVirus
> > for
> > Internet Email Gateways 1.0) ; Tue, 07 Dec 1999 14:10:12 0000
> > (GMT)
> > X-Mozilla-Status:
> > 8003
> > X-Mozilla-Status2:
> > 00000000
> > X-UIDL:
> > B0000494508.MSG
> >
> > Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list.
> >
> > To confirm that you would like
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > removed from this mailing list, please send an empty reply to this address:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Your mailer should have a Reply feature that uses this address automatically.
> >
> > I haven't checked whether your address is currently on the mailing list.
> > To see what address you used to subscribe, look at the messages you are
> > receiving from the mailing list. Each message has your address hidden
> > inside its return path; for example, [EMAIL PROTECTED] receives messages
> > with return path ...-God=heaven.af.mil.
> >
> > See http://pobox.com/~djb/qmail.html for more information about qmail.
> >
> > Please read http://pobox.com/~djb/qmail/faq.html before sending your
> > question to the qmail mailing list.
> >
> > --- Here are the ezmlm command addresses.
> >
> > I can handle administrative requests automatically.
> > Just send an empty note to any of these addresses:
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Receive future messages sent to the mailing list.
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Stop receiving messages.
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Retrieve a copy of message 12345 from the archive.
> >
> > DO NOT SEND ADMINISTRATIVE REQUESTS TO THE MAILING LIST!
> > If you do, I won't see them, and subscribers will yell at you.
> >
> > To specify [EMAIL PROTECTED] as your subscription address, send mail
> > to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
> > I'll send a confirmation message to that address; when you receive that
> > message, simply reply to it to complete your subscription.
> >
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I am working with someone to figure out a problem. I am not testing to see if
this message gets to the list, but what the header info reads so I can get off
of this list, so I will never bother you guys again. If you flame me I have to
waste time reading it, instead of getting off of here. Man, I'm liking sendmail
more and more :-)
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I like sendmail too, mainly because I've been using it for years and years.
But I was unable to secure it against spammers, despite numerous rule update
offerings. Maybe someday it'll be totally secure. Until then, at least
there's qmail.
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Santerre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 10:00 AM
Subject: test,ignore or read before you flame me.
> I am working with someone to figure out a problem. I am not testing to see
if
> this message gets to the list, but what the header info reads so I can get
off
> of this list, so I will never bother you guys again. If you flame me I
have to
> waste time reading it, instead of getting off of here. Man, I'm liking
sendmail
> more and more :-)
>
>
We're considering enabling the QUOTA checking features that come
with Andre's LDAP patches for Qmail 1.03 (an OS independent quota system).
Since this is going into a medium/large production system (250K+ users)
where we use single UID delivery for all users; can someone first
describe the mechanics of how these quota checks are done?
I'm not a C programmer, but from looking at the source code, it appears
that several of the QMAIL binaries have been modified to look for
special files in the $USER/Maildir directory. It then looks like it
stat() every file under the user's Maildir to see if it exceeds the
limits set-up (either globally in control file of via LDAP mailQuota).
Biggest concern is performance and load impact on the system, especially
in instances where a user has a large number of mail files (thousands).
I looked through all of the archives and could not find any description
of these QUOTA features.
Thanks
--curtis
I'm not sure if this will get to the list because I AM OFF OF IT! :-)
Peter If this doesn't make it to the list, can you post it for me?
Peter gets credit for sending me in the right direction. He mentioned checking my
SMTP logs to see how the messages came in. You guys are not going to believe what
the problem was, the old linux problem that drives newbies nuts,.....
CAPITALIZATION! :-)
The first letter of my email address was upper case. However it didn't showup on
anything except the SMTP logs. Now I really kind of feel stupid. But again, there
was no way to know unless I went into the logs. So if anyone else ever has a
problem, tell them to check case and their logs. This is definitely going into the
next Linux user group meeting :-)
Thanks to everyone for helping. Don't talk about me while I'm gone ;)
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> I'm not sure if this will get to the list because I AM OFF OF IT! :-)
>
> Peter If this doesn't make it to the list, can you post it for me?
>
> Peter gets credit for sending me in the right direction. He mentioned
checking my
> SMTP logs to see how the messages came in. You guys are not going to
believe what
> the problem was, the old linux problem that drives newbies nuts,.....
> CAPITALIZATION! :-)
> The first letter of my email address was upper case. However it didn't
showup on
> anything except the SMTP logs. Now I really kind of feel stupid. But
again, there
> was no way to know unless I went into the logs. So if anyone else ever has
a
> problem, tell them to check case and their logs. This is definitely going
into the
> next Linux user group meeting :-)
>
> Thanks to everyone for helping. Don't talk about me while I'm gone ;)
Why are these people allowed on the list?
Julian
Why would you say something so mean, and then make sure to include him on
the reply.
That's not nice!
Why can't we all just get along?
_____
Dustin Miller, President
WebFusionDevelopmentIncorporated
-----Original Message-----
From: Julian L.C. Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 1:42 PM
To: Chris Santerre; Peter Gradwell; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: THANK YOU EVERYONE!!!!!
> I'm not sure if this will get to the list because I AM OFF OF IT! :-)
>
> Peter If this doesn't make it to the list, can you post it for me?
>
> Peter gets credit for sending me in the right direction. He mentioned
checking my
> SMTP logs to see how the messages came in. You guys are not going to
believe what
> the problem was, the old linux problem that drives newbies nuts,.....
> CAPITALIZATION! :-)
> The first letter of my email address was upper case. However it didn't
showup on
> anything except the SMTP logs. Now I really kind of feel stupid. But
again, there
> was no way to know unless I went into the logs. So if anyone else ever has
a
> problem, tell them to check case and their logs. This is definitely going
into the
> next Linux user group meeting :-)
>
> Thanks to everyone for helping. Don't talk about me while I'm gone ;)
Why are these people allowed on the list?
Julian
"Julian L.C. Brown" wrote:
> Why are these people allowed on the list?
>
> Julian
Why is Microsoft allowed on the internet ?
> > Why are these people allowed on the list?
> >
> > Julian
>
> Why is Microsoft allowed on the internet ?
:) Bill Gates sex appeal perhaps? Nah
Julian
El 07/12/99, Dustin Miller escribió:
> Why would you say something so mean, and then make sure to include him on
> the reply.
> That's not nice!
> Why can't we all just get along?
You must be a saint, that guy was a pest! and the nature of the problem
was ...
I am a saint. The patron saint of people who are stepped on by other rude
people.
My heart went out to the guy, I can understand the difficulties he was
having getting off this list. He's not an expert like the rest of you
are/claim to be/seem to be, so I think a little compassion is in order.
It is just a sore point with me, I see similar attitudes on EVERY OTHER
forum of discussion, both on the net and in real life, and I just have to
wonder:
When someone makes a snide, demeaning, or insulting comment, does it truly
make them feel better? Does it better the situation?
I guess I'm just on a crusade to get people to be a little more
compassionate and considerate of others. Whether it's jammering on a
cellular phone in the middle of a movie, or insulting someone for their
behavior, there are always situations that really shouldn't come into play.
That's my ever-so-humble opinion, and I hope that I can affect maybe ONE
person with this crusade.
Dustin
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WebFusionDevelopmentIncorporated
-----Original Message-----
From: Diego A. Puertas F. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 5:37 PM
To: Dustin Miller
Cc: Chris Santerre; Lista: qmail-info
Subject: RE: THANK YOU EVERYONE!!!!!
El 07/12/99, Dustin Miller escribió:
> Why would you say something so mean, and then make sure to include him on
> the reply.
> That's not nice!
> Why can't we all just get along?
You must be a saint, that guy was a pest! and the nature of the problem
was ...
I have installed qmail and can successfully send mail both locally and to
remote addresses. However, I am unable to receive messages from a remote
address. I do not use Fetchmail since my linux server is permanently
connected. When I do the first test in TEST.receive (forge some mail locally
via SMTP) I get the following:
#telnet localhost 25
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
Connection closed by foreign host.
I have enabled smtp in /etc/inetd.conf and the command "netstat -a |grep
LISTEN" shows smtp as listening for requests.
When I send a message from a remote machine it is not received and nothing
appears in the log file. Is there something I'm missing or is there some
extra configuration I have to do in order to get smtp to work with qmail.
Any help will be gratefully received.
Paul
i setup qmail with qmailadmin/vpopmail version 0.25/3.4.10
in a test config i setup 2 virt domains.
via qmailadmin i can manage users/lists etc, now i migrate about 300
users with vadduser with a little script.
I see difference in vpasswd between users created with vadduser an with
qmailadmin, quota and NOLOGIN, why???
second after i add the users and add som responders and forwards i
cannot logon with a user account in qmailadmin, error-response 'bad
file'. pop3 validation is ok with this user
last, with 300 users it takes a few, 10-20 seconds, before the main-menu
is displayed in the browser, how about 1000 users.
Is this respons-delay normal ???
marco leeflang
Hi list,
I've got a colleague who claims that many ISPs (he lives in
Canada, so probably Canadian ISPs) refuse mail based on the
MAIL FROM: command. To me, that seems inane and futile, but
as I'm not an ISP, and don't work for one either, I'm
solliciting the views of people in the know.
The qmail connection being that I'm running qmail on our
corporate server, and he wants me to basically make it an
open relay so he can use the SMTP server from his portable
(he's on the road a lot, uses a lot of different ISP while
on the road, wants his mail to look as if it comes from
the corporate server, and can't/won't give me a range of
IP addresses). Refusing mail that doesn't come from
our domain is of course dimwitted, as we would not be receiving
a lot of mail :-).
He pretends this can be done with Exchange or Notes - I guess
it's BS, but I don't know these animals... In any case, he's
a director of the joint, and threatens to migrate to Exchange
(he's a big Exchange fan) if this can't be done.
My solution would be to patch qmail-smtpd to *require* a
auth before accepting any further commands, and to run it
on another port. Does this sound OK?
Stefaan
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Ninety-Ninety Rule of Project Schedules:
The first ninety percent of the task takes ninety percent of
the time, and the last ten percent takes the other ninety percent.
You could always set up an empty pop box for him on your mail server, and
use POP before SMTP relay (user roaming)
:)
_____
Dustin Miller, President
WebFusionDevelopmentIncorporated
-----Original Message-----
From: Stefaan A Eeckels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 4:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Filtering on "MAIL FROM:"
Hi list,
I've got a colleague who claims that many ISPs (he lives in
Canada, so probably Canadian ISPs) refuse mail based on the
MAIL FROM: command. To me, that seems inane and futile, but
as I'm not an ISP, and don't work for one either, I'm
solliciting the views of people in the know.
The qmail connection being that I'm running qmail on our
corporate server, and he wants me to basically make it an
open relay so he can use the SMTP server from his portable
(he's on the road a lot, uses a lot of different ISP while
on the road, wants his mail to look as if it comes from
the corporate server, and can't/won't give me a range of
IP addresses). Refusing mail that doesn't come from
our domain is of course dimwitted, as we would not be receiving
a lot of mail :-).
He pretends this can be done with Exchange or Notes - I guess
it's BS, but I don't know these animals... In any case, he's
a director of the joint, and threatens to migrate to Exchange
(he's a big Exchange fan) if this can't be done.
My solution would be to patch qmail-smtpd to *require* a
auth before accepting any further commands, and to run it
on another port. Does this sound OK?
Stefaan
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Stefaan A Eeckels writes:
> Hi list,
>
> I've got a colleague who claims that many ISPs (he lives in
> Canada, so probably Canadian ISPs) refuse mail based on the
> MAIL FROM: command. To me, that seems inane and futile, but
> as I'm not an ISP, and don't work for one either, I'm
> solliciting the views of people in the know.
Only true to a limited extent. Most ISPs reject MAIL FROM:s that are
clearly bogus, but that's about it.
> The qmail connection being that I'm running qmail on our
> corporate server, and he wants me to basically make it an
> open relay so he can use the SMTP server from his portable
> (he's on the road a lot, uses a lot of different ISP while
> on the road, wants his mail to look as if it comes from
> the corporate server, and can't/won't give me a range of
> IP addresses). Refusing mail that doesn't come from
> our domain is of course dimwitted, as we would not be receiving
> a lot of mail :-).
> He pretends this can be done with Exchange or Notes - I guess
> it's BS, but I don't know these animals...
It's BS.
> In any case, he's
> a director of the joint, and threatens to migrate to Exchange
> (he's a big Exchange fan) if this can't be done.
>
> My solution would be to patch qmail-smtpd to *require* a
> auth before accepting any further commands, and to run it
> on another port. Does this sound OK?
Sounds about right.
I would also recommend that you start looking for another job, where people
who obviously know zilch about technical issues are kept as far away from
equipment as possible.
Probably the best response to your PHB's drivel would probably to mention,
casually, that although MSexchange has vaguely similar sounding features,
it's for use on internal LANs only, and nobody uses them on the Internet
because it makes it possible for hackers to break into the computer and
destroy all documents.
That should fix him.
--
Sam
On Tue, Dec 07, 1999 at 11:16:33PM +0000, Sam wrote:
> Stefaan A Eeckels writes:
> > The qmail connection being that I'm running qmail on our
> > corporate server, and he wants me to basically make it an
> > open relay so he can use the SMTP server from his portable
> > (he's on the road a lot, uses a lot of different ISP while
> > on the road, wants his mail to look as if it comes from
> > the corporate server, and can't/won't give me a range of
> > IP addresses). Refusing mail that doesn't come from
> > our domain is of course dimwitted, as we would not be receiving
> > a lot of mail :-).
> > He pretends this can be done with Exchange or Notes - I guess
> > it's BS, but I don't know these animals...
>
> It's BS.
Also, depending on his providers' policies, he should be able to use their
relays for outgoing mail, while using his internal e-mail address. Most
providers allow this.
--Adam
On 07-Dec-99 Stefaan A Eeckels wrote:
...
> My solution would be to patch qmail-smtpd to *require* a
> auth before accepting any further commands, and to run it
> on another port. Does this sound OK?
It's trivial. Install David Harris' smtp-poplock and you're
all set.
Vince.
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At 6:21 PM -0500 12/7/99, Adam D . McKenna wrote:
>On Tue, Dec 07, 1999 at 11:16:33PM +0000, Sam wrote:
>> Stefaan A Eeckels writes:
>> > The qmail connection being that I'm running qmail on our
>> > corporate server, and he wants me to basically make it an
>> > open relay so he can use the SMTP server from his portable
>> > (he's on the road a lot, uses a lot of different ISP while
>> > on the road, wants his mail to look as if it comes from
>> > the corporate server, and can't/won't give me a range of
>> > IP addresses). Refusing mail that doesn't come from
>> > our domain is of course dimwitted, as we would not be receiving
>> > a lot of mail :-).
>> > He pretends this can be done with Exchange or Notes - I guess
>> > it's BS, but I don't know these animals...
>>
>> It's BS.
>
>Also, depending on his providers' policies, he should be able to use their
>relays for outgoing mail, while using his internal e-mail address. Most
>providers allow this.
We have the same issue, and this is what all of our mobile users do. They use
"mail.___ISP___.net" as the outgoing SMTP server. Works just fine.
-c
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On 07-Dec-1999, Sam wrote:
> Only true to a limited extent. Most ISPs reject MAIL FROM:s that
> are clearly bogus, but that's about it.
Could anyone give me pointers on how I can enforce restrictions on
MAIL FROM: in SMTP sessions, for example the domain part must be
resolvable.
--
Ronny Haryanto
Hi
I created it & put 2000000 in it. I get UNABLE_TO_WRITE ./Mailbox
DISK_QUOTA_EXCEEDED.
Any thoughts anyone.
TIA
Bill
Dimitri SZAJMAN wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, Bill Hults wrote:
>
> Create it !
>
> > Hi
> > The file doesn't exist.
> >
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, Dec 05, 1999 at 05:56:20PM -0500, Bill Hults wrote:
> > > > Hi
> > > > Is there a default maximum size for attachments? Users on one of my
> > > > qmail sites can't receive attachments larger than 1 MB.
> > > > No quotas on the file system
> > >
> > > Is there anything in /var/qmail/control/databytes?
> > >
> > > Greetz, Peter.
> > > --
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> > > |
> > > | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot;
> > > | C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.'
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> >
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> >
>
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Hello all,
We use Qmail on FreeBSD 3.1 as our mail server and have been receiving a
strange message this afternoon, Here it is:
Dec 7 19:08:09 biff qmail: 944618889.978595 warning: trouble opening
local/11/57; will try again later
Does anyone have an idea as to what this message means and more importantly,
how to fix the problem?
I'm not sure what other information to provide as nothing else has acted
unusual nor has anyone messed with the server. If there is any other
information I can provide, please let me know.
Thanks in advance for the assistance.
Regards,
Jeff Lush
Those with problems perhaps does not know that there is a syslogd rpm
update. Possibly
rpm -Uvh
ftp://thales.memphis.edu/pub/redhat/updates/6.1/i386/sysklogd-1.3.31-14.i386.rpm
will solve your problems.
Mate
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HI,
I will explain ght eproblem with an example...
I have a domain called foo.com . Till now all the users of this domain were
at a remote location and my main qmail server on the internet was delivering
the mail to the this remote server. Till now the configuration that i had
done was just to add an entry in the SMTPROUTES file that all mail for this
domain shold be forwarded /relayed to this remote server.
Now the scenario is such that i would like to create POP users on my
main server for this domain . POP users also will have the same nomenclature
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Now what happens is that when i create this user as pop , the
qmail system does not recognise this user and the mail gets lost. I need to
understand why the mail is not getting delivered to the mailbox of that pop
user. We have not defined this domain in the locals file. If we do so , only
pop will work and the relaying will stop working...
I need to understand what is the priority hierarchy in qmail. i.e what does
qmail check first , locals, smtproutes, pop user... what????
Also please send a solution to the same if it is possible without
changeing any settings in the remote server. we can change the settings of
the remote server to accept all mails for location.foo.com and the system
will work . But without doing so , please give a solution .
Thanks in advance.
Amit vadehra
Amit Vadehra
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ #: 43481951
I am still a bit new qmail user and I am wondering how this with virtual
domains are working. The this is that the comapany has 2 domain names
(foo.com and foo.bar.com for an example). Can I use the virtual domain
stuff to redirect all mail from foo.bar.com to foo.com ? How is it
done? Where can I read more about what the diffrent configuration files
are working in qmail (and ezmlm)?
Regards
Michael Boman
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On Wed, Dec 08, 1999 at 03:21:51PM +0800, Michael Boman wrote:
>
> I am still a bit new qmail user and I am wondering how this with virtual
> domains are working. The this is that the comapany has 2 domain names
> (foo.com and foo.bar.com for an example). Can I use the virtual domain
> stuff to redirect all mail from foo.bar.com to foo.com ? How is it
> done? Where can I read more about what the diffrent configuration files
> are working in qmail (and ezmlm)?
Read these and come back if you still are confused:
http://x42.com/qmail/doc/vdomains1.txt
http://x42.com/qmail/doc/vdomains2.txt
http://x42.com/qmail/doc/vdomains3.txt
I will boil these down into a virtual domain cookbook some day.
But not today.
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Hi Michael!
> I am still a bit new qmail user and I am wondering how this
> with virtual
> domains are working. The this is that the comapany has 2 domain names
> (foo.com and foo.bar.com for an example). Can I use the virtual domain
> stuff to redirect all mail from foo.bar.com to foo.com ? How is it
> done?
You put in your virtualdomains:
foo.bar.com:virtualuser
foo.com:virtualuser
where virtualuser is a shell user. All the mail for both domains are
delivered into virtualuser's homedir. There you can go on with .qmail-files
to distribute mail.
>Where can I read more about what the diffrent
> configuration files
> are working in qmail (and ezmlm)?
See "Life with Qmail" : http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html
CU
Holger
On Wed, Dec 08, 1999 at 08:47:53AM +0100, Häffelin Holger wrote:
> Hi Michael!
>
> > I am still a bit new qmail user and I am wondering how this
> > with virtual
> > domains are working. The this is that the comapany has 2 domain names
> > (foo.com and foo.bar.com for an example). Can I use the virtual domain
> > stuff to redirect all mail from foo.bar.com to foo.com ? How is it
> > done?
> You put in your virtualdomains:
> foo.bar.com:virtualuser
> foo.com:virtualuser
>
> where virtualuser is a shell user. All the mail for both domains are
> delivered into virtualuser's homedir. There you can go on with .qmail-files
> to distribute mail.
>
That is not something I want to do as I have right now 10k users to
take care of.. (only 70 of them are affected of this, but I like to keep
things simple and put everything in the mySQL databse.
What I want to do is to tell qmail that if the domain is foo.bar.com
change it to foo.com and THEN deliver the mail.
> >Where can I read more about what the diffrent
> > configuration files
> > are working in qmail (and ezmlm)?
> See "Life with Qmail" : http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html
>
> CU
> Holger
/Mike
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