qmail Digest 11 May 2000 10:00:00 -0000 Issue 998
Topics (messages 41490 through 41541):
Qmail installation CDB problem
41490 by: James
41502 by: Greg Owen
.qmail (forward Strange Error)
41491 by: Mark Lo
41492 by: Jerry Walsh
can't telnet to pop server
41493 by: Mark Lo
41525 by: Dale Miracle
Re: Help with overwhelmed system
41494 by: Dave Sill
41497 by: Peter van Dijk
Re: qmail cdb problem
41495 by: Dave Sill
41496 by: Petr Novotny
41498 by: Dave Sill
41522 by: James
Re: How do you do it?
41499 by: Bruno Wolff III
41511 by: John Palkovic
Re: QMail Performance Question & Miscellaneous Issues
41500 by: Ricardo D. Albano
41513 by: markd.bushwire.net
41514 by: markd.bushwire.net
41526 by: Flemming Funch
Subject filtering on a relay-only system?
41501 by: Ralf Günthner
41508 by: Ondrej Sury
41524 by: Ricardo D. Albano
Converting from Sendmail/majordomo to Qmail/ezmlm
41503 by: Rodney Edwards
41504 by: Michael Johnson
qmail-send problem
41505 by: Daniel
41506 by: Greg Owen
How to Retrive Mail from Qmail
41507 by: Mark Lo
41509 by: Ryan Russell
questions about conversion from Sendmail to qmail
41510 by: blaine minazzi
Blank messages when receiving mail
41512 by: Eric Jennings
remove
41515 by: Kyle Gannon
qmail-unsubscribe
41516 by: Kyle Gannon
I get the following message when I telnet in
41517 by: Eric Fletcher
hostname -f query
41518 by: PPPindia
41519 by: Keith Warno
unsubscribe qmail
41520 by: Isaiah Chua
822header for Mail Filtering?
41521 by: Kai MacTane
time trouble with POP and SMTP
41523 by: FabriceK
41530 by: Martin A. Brown
qmail-qfilter stangeness
41527 by: Russell P. Sutherland
41532 by: Bruce Guenter
Re: pop clients.
41528 by: Eric Cox
location of Unsent messages
41529 by: Mark Lo
41533 by: Steffan Hoeke
Different between .qmail and Maildrop
41531 by: Mark Lo
What does this mean? "unable to parse"
41534 by: James
41536 by: lopera.eprinsa.es
41537 by: James
41538 by: lopera.eprinsa.es
Hanging smtpd processes - Again w/more info
41535 by: mack.ms1.hinet.net
Virtual Domain Error
41539 by: Mark Lo
Re: "unable to parse" Fixed.
41540 by: James
Still can't get mail from outside server
41541 by: James
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I am having difficulties while trying to get Qmail to run properly on Linux Mandrake 7.02. I have followed "Life With Qmail" (http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html) step by step.. and when I get to the section: Allow the local host to inject mail via SMTP: echo '127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""' >>/etc/tcp.smtp /usr/local/sbin/qmail cdb I do ok on the first part (beginning with "echo '127), but on the second line (beginning with "/usr/local/"), I get this error when I input that line: bash: /usr/local/sbin/qmail: No such file or directory So, I decide to go to /usr/local/sbin/ and I do an "ls" and in that directory is this file: qmail@ So then I do a "ls -la" and see this: qmail -> /etc/rc.d/init.d/qmail* I am very curios at this point, so I change the directory to /etc/rc.d/init.d and I find a qmail* file does exist. Its properties are -rwxr-xr-x What the heck? How come I get "No such file or directory" when I type "/usr/local/sbin/qmail cdb" (without the quotes) when the file (or is it just a link?) IS there?? Thanks for any help. james
> I am very curios at this point, so I change the directory to > /etc/rc.d/init.d and I find a qmail* file does exist. Its properties > are -rwxr-xr-x > > What the heck? How come I get "No such file or directory" when I type > "/usr/local/sbin/qmail cdb" (without the quotes) when the file (or is > it just a link?) IS there?? What is the output of 'head -1 /etc/rc.d/init.d/qmail'? If the script doesn't correctly point to the shell, then that can cause "No such file or directory errors." Run 'vi /etc/rc.d/init.d/qmail'. At the bottom of the screen, you will see either: "qmail" [dos format] 50 lines, 4500 characters or "qmail" 50 lines, 4500 characters (Immediately type ":q!" (without quotes) and hit enter to quit vi) If you see [dos format], then that's your problem. Modify the file to remove the DOS style CR/LF pairs. Check out http://kb.indiana.edu/data/acux.html for a list of ways to do this. -- gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi, I have created a ".qmail" file in my home directory (/home/mark/.qmail) and my user name is mark.. And In that .qmail file, I put "&[EMAIL PROTECTED]" in it. Thus, whenever I send the a messages to mark, it will forward a copy to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I get this forwarding working okay. But, I don't see any copy left at my mark's. Thus, /home/mark/Maildir/new has nothing in it. Thank You Mark
This is because you are *forwarding* the mail! If you want to keep another copy then add another line to you .qmail file: ./Maildir/ or add another forwarding line Regards! At 08:14 PM 5/10/00 +0800, Mark Lo wrote: >Hi, > > I have created a ".qmail" file in my home directory >(/home/mark/.qmail) and my user name is mark.. And In that .qmail file, >I put "&[EMAIL PROTECTED]" in it. Thus, whenever I send the a >messages to mark, it will forward a copy to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I >get this forwarding working okay. But, I don't see any copy left at my >mark's. Thus, /home/mark/Maildir/new has nothing in it. > >Thank You > >Mark > -- Jerry Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aardvark IPL Fax +353 21 896040 Morris house Tel +353 21 896060 Douglas Cork Ireland. http://www.aardvark.ie/ The package said Windows NT 4 or better - I installed UNIX
Hi, How to determine whether my pop server is running or not. I have tried to telnet to 127.0.0.1 110...and I got the connection refused. Then, I went for ps -aux, and i don't see any pop server running. Thus, i have already put pop server startup srcipt in /var/qmail/rc according to life with qmail. i put the following into /var/qmail/rc: tcpserver -v -R 0 pop-3 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup pop.sourcesfinder.com \ /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir 2>&1 | \ /var/qmail/bin/splogger pop3d & And i have installed the checkpassword and tcpserver utitilities and working properly., my host name is space1.sourcesfinder.com, and using redhat 6.0. Thank You mark
Mark Lo wrote: > Hi, > > How to determine whether my pop server is running or not. I have > tried to telnet to 127.0.0.1 110...and I got the connection refused. > Then, I went for ps -aux, and i don't see any pop server running. > > Thus, i have already put pop server startup srcipt in > /var/qmail/rc according to life with qmail. > > i put the following into /var/qmail/rc: > > tcpserver -v -R 0 pop-3 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup > pop.sourcesfinder.com \ > /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir 2>&1 | \ > /var/qmail/bin/splogger pop3d & > > And i have installed the checkpassword and tcpserver utitilities and > working properly., my host name is space1.sourcesfinder.com, and using > redhat 6.0. > > Thank You > > mark Try typing netstat -ta , it will show every service listening for a connection. The only thing that should be in the /var/qmail/rc is the qmail-start command and etc. Look in /var/qmail/boot for examples. Your pop3d and smtpd should be started from your local scripts or placed where your previous ones were started from. They would be in /etc/rc.d . Later, Dale
Peter van Dijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 04:02:39PM -0400, Brad Johnson wrote: >> >> Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused >> Mounted on >> /dev/wd0s1e 396895 121201 243943 33% 99832 6 100% /var >> >> 4) Fix the filesystem somehow. >> Something like increasing the # of available inodes, partitioning? Yes. Back up /var, re-newfs/mkfs it with more space allocated to inodes, restore the files, then fix the queue file names with one of the handy scripts on www.qmail.org. >This is the problem, yes. You seem to have one inode per 4kbyte of >diskspace. This should always be sufficient. It's obviously not in this case. His 100,000 messages are apparently pretty small. But regardless of their size, you need 100,000 inodes to store 100,000 files. Each message in the queue requires at least two inodes. >Hmm this is problematic. I just realized that for a disk to run out of >space before it runs out of inodes with qmail you need 1 inode per 1k. How do you figure that? The ratio of inode space to data space (for most filesystems) is determined at the time the filesystem is created. I don't see anything magic about 1k/inode. -Dave
On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 08:25:08AM -0400, Dave Sill wrote: [snip] > > >This is the problem, yes. You seem to have one inode per 4kbyte of > >diskspace. This should always be sufficient. > > It's obviously not in this case. His 100,000 messages are apparently > pretty small. But regardless of their size, you need 100,000 inodes > to store 100,000 files. Each message in the queue requires at least > two inodes. I looked at one remote message and it took up 3 inodes: mess, info and remote. > >Hmm this is problematic. I just realized that for a disk to run out of > >space before it runs out of inodes with qmail you need 1 inode per 1k. > > How do you figure that? The ratio of inode space to data space (for > most filesystems) is determined at the time the filesystem is > created. I don't see anything magic about 1k/inode. The 'mess' would normally be a couple of kbytes, but info and remote are under 50 bytes, normally. Averaging this I come to 'couple of kbytes' (let's take 4), adding 2x50 bytes to this, gives me 4096+50+50=4196 bytes, divided over 3 inodes. 4196/3=1398.66. To have enough inodes for this you need 1 inode per kbyte. I have already been thinking in what formulation this would fit in LWQ - I figured this is _the_ chance for me to contribute :) Greetz, Peter. -- Powered by WUT? - Peter van Dijk [student:sysadmin:developer:madly in love] | `Yes, this was actually a hack and not | (petervd@|www.)vuurwerk.nl | a scritp kiddie clicking a mouse button.' | www.dataloss.net | - hackernews.com, commenting on the apache.org deface
James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Then, when I try to enter the second line(/usr/local/sbin/qmail) I get >this message: > >"bash: /usr/local/sbin/qmail: No such file or directory." See: http://www.faqts.com/knowledge-base/view.phtml/aid/1200/fid/223/lang/en Which almost certainly contains the fix for this problem. -Dave
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 10 May 00, at 8:31, Dave Sill wrote: > See: > > http://www.faqts.com/knowledge-base/view.phtml/aid/1200/fid/223/lang/en Accidentally, that entry is wrong. You don't want to delete LF (octal '\012'); you want to delete CR (octal '\015'). Doh. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.0.2 -- QDPGP 2.60 Comment: http://community.wow.net/grt/qdpgp.html iQA/AwUBORlJ5lMwP8g7qbw/EQJkpQCfeEGJ/UzhiTwyoqrtri2k6zLEIRAAoNII VHcngL2aFImbKzLMJy31pxis =mu+J -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Petr Novotny, ANTEK CS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.antek.cz PGP key ID: 0x3BA9BC3F -- Don't you know there ain't no devil there's just God when he's drunk. [Tom Waits]
"Petr Novotny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> http://www.faqts.com/knowledge-base/view.phtml/aid/1200/fid/223/lang/en > >Accidentally, that entry is wrong. You don't want to delete LF (octal >'\012'); you want to delete CR (octal '\015'). Doh. D'oh, indeed. Thanks. It's fixed. -Dave
Dave Sill wrote: :See: :http://www.faqts.com/knowledge-base/view.phtml/aid/1200/fid/223/lang/en :Which almost certainly contains the fix for this problem. Ah!.. well, at least it was as you described, in DOS format. So I changed it as suggested on the page, only now I get this error when trying to issue the line /usr/local/sbin/qmail cdb: tcprules: fatal: unable to parse this line: 127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="" /usr/local/sbin/qmail cdb (that's all on one line) Reloaded /etc/tcp.smtp. How do I fix this? Thanks for your help. james
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 04:58:58PM -0300, Rogerio Brito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dave is impressive, indeed. But Dan's got to get the prize. > Let's see. The man is a teacher, active researcher writing > papers about Number Theory (that's what I want to be when I > grow up) and a better system administrator than most system > administrators out there. Not only that, he knows the finer > points (read: "bugs") about many software releases (namely, > BIND, sendmail, Apache etc) and inconsistences on RFCS. You forgot to add "Freedom Fighter".
Bruno Wolff III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 04:58:58PM -0300, > Rogerio Brito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Dave is impressive, indeed. But Dan's got to get the prize. > > Let's see. The man is a teacher, active researcher writing > > papers about Number Theory (that's what I want to be when I > > grow up) and a better system administrator than most system > > administrators out there. Not only that, he knows the finer > > points (read: "bugs") about many software releases (namely, > > BIND, sendmail, Apache etc) and inconsistences on RFCS. > > You forgot to add "Freedom Fighter". In case others do not know, Dan is famous for going to court with the US government on a little Freedom of Expression matter. He wanted to publish a program called "Snuffle." Our government wanted to prevent the publication of this program. Here's a Google search that returns a lot of hits: http://www.google.com/search?q=Snuffle+%2BBernstein&num=10&meta=hl%3Den%26lr%3D His code is great but IMHO this is by far his most important contribution. -John -- "God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh." - Voltaire
Are you using syslogd ? RDA.- -----Original Message----- From: Flemming Funch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 5:28 AM Subject: RE: QMail Performance Question & Miscellaneous Issues >At 09:39 AM 5/9/2000, Matthew B. Henniges wrote: >>On a dual celeron 466 with 512Mb ram. and 3 10k scsi drives (one for >>/var/qmail/queue, one for /var/log, one for /usr/home) >>concurrency remote at 500 >>concurrency local at 50 >>FreeBSD 3.4-S >>localhost dnscache >> >>It will push 12 Million on a good day. (4% local delivery). >> >>This is qmail 1.03 + big-todo + big-concurrency + qmailqueue > >I'm green with envy. Now, I administer around 6 qmail servers. Typically a >dual-600PIII with 1G of RAM, with /var on a 10K SCSI, and everything else >on other disks. I also use qmail 1.03 + big-todo + big-concurrency. Remote >concurrency set for 200. Queue set for a split of 293. Linux RH6.1 or 2. >Outgoing mail is handled on different servers than the incoming. The >machines are co-located on several different networks with plenty of bandwidth. > >The machines are mostly sending out daily newsletters which are being fed >in from another machine by smtp or qmtp (seems to make no difference in >performance which I use), and I've experimented with various numbers of >incoming smtp processes. > >If I'm sending more in more than a couple of smtp connections at the same >time (e.g. 10 or 20), concurrent remote processes drop to a crawl of 2-10, >the machine's load gets really high, 6-20, and the queue gets filled up >quickly. > >If nothing is coming in, the remote processes usually are 20-80, and only >on a very rare occasion would get close to my 200 concurrencyremote. > >So .. eh... would it likely be my disk I/O that slows it down (how do I >test that?), or should I be switching to FreeBSD, or am I doing something >stupid? > >What is localhost dnscache about? A local name server, to limit outgoing >DNS lookups? > >- Flemming > > >
On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 01:30:53AM -0700, Flemming Funch wrote: > At 09:39 AM 5/9/2000, Matthew B. Henniges wrote: > >On a dual celeron 466 with 512Mb ram. and 3 10k scsi drives (one for > >/var/qmail/queue, one for /var/log, one for /usr/home) > >concurrency remote at 500 > >concurrency local at 50 > >FreeBSD 3.4-S > >localhost dnscache > > > >It will push 12 Million on a good day. (4% local delivery). > > > >This is qmail 1.03 + big-todo + big-concurrency + qmailqueue > > I'm green with envy. Now, I administer around 6 qmail servers. Typically a It's not clear to me that these are valid comparisons. Is the 12mill per day mean 12M individual messages individually queued? Are is it a much smaller number of messages with a larger number of recipients? > dual-600PIII with 1G of RAM, with /var on a 10K SCSI, and everything else > on other disks. I also use qmail 1.03 + big-todo + big-concurrency. Remote > concurrency set for 200. Queue set for a split of 293. Linux RH6.1 or 2. > Outgoing mail is handled on different servers than the incoming. The > machines are co-located on several different networks with plenty of bandwidth. > > The machines are mostly sending out daily newsletters which are being fed > in from another machine by smtp or qmtp (seems to make no difference in > performance which I use), and I've experimented with various numbers of > incoming smtp processes. > > If I'm sending more in more than a couple of smtp connections at the same > time (e.g. 10 or 20), concurrent remote processes drop to a crawl of 2-10, > the machine's load gets really high, 6-20, and the queue gets filled up > quickly. While it's hard to tell without looking, by guess is that your inbound submission rate is killing the spindle that your disk lives on. > If nothing is coming in, the remote processes usually are 20-80, and only > on a very rare occasion would get close to my 200 concurrencyremote. That suggests to me that something is awry. I have never seen any properly setup system achieve the configured concurrencyremote. Not getting your concurrencyremote implies that qmail-send (via qmail-rspawn) cannot fork prepare a message and fork a qmail-remote process quickly enough to keep up with the exit rate. Thus *usually* means that qmail-send hasn't sufficient resources (such as spindle or file system performance). > So .. eh... would it likely be my disk I/O that slows it down (how do I > test that?), or should I be switching to FreeBSD, or am I doing something > stupid? > > What is localhost dnscache about? A local name server, to limit outgoing > DNS lookups? The speed lookups. It may be useful to you, but it's not relevant to your low qmail-remote rate. It would actually exacerbate it in a sense as qmail-remotes would probably taken even less time to do their work. It would be especially interesting to see: qmail-qstat, vmstat and maybe iostat (or their moral equivalent) when you have no mail being submitted via qmqp/smtp, have a large queue of ready messages and you are not achieving your concurrencyremote. Regards.
On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 10:09:09AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Boy a few early morning typos here. Some corrections: > While it's hard to tell without looking, by guess is that your inbound > submission rate is killing the spindle that your disk lives on. That would be "that your queue lives on". > That suggests to me that something is awry. I have never seen any properly > setup system achieve the configured concurrencyremote. That would be "any properly setup system *NOT* achieve the configured concurrencyremote.". In other words, expect to reach your concurrencyremote. Not getting their when everything appears right, is a sign of some other underlying problem. Now lemme go check the dosage level on that coffee machine... Regards.
At 02:40 AM 5/10/2000, Neil Schemenauer wrote: >You should find the bottleneck before you jump to any >conclusions. What version of the Linux kernel are you using? 2.2.12 compiled with higher process limit (4090), higher file and inode limits (16000/48000), smp support, and drivers for SCSI and network card compiled in. >Do >you have any strange looking error messages in your log files? Nothing that looks unusual. A ton of "in.identd started" messages. No unusual error messages. >What does "vmstat 1" show? I didn't know that one. I'll check when the servers are busy the next time. Generally top shows relatively low memory use and no swap space used. >Perhaps you should install sar(sp?) >and profile your disk IO. I don't think sar or sarcheck runs on Linux at this point, as far as I can quickly figure out. But something like that would be very useful. At 07:09 AM 5/10/2000, Ricardo D. Albano wrote: >Are you using syslogd ? No. Or, rather, it is there, but I'm not using it for qmail, so it is not doing much. Back when I was using sendmail and syslogd, that was indeed a big bottleneck, ending up consuming a majority of server resources. At 10:09 AM 5/10/2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >It's not clear to me that these are valid comparisons. Is the 12mill per day >mean 12M individual messages individually queued? Are is it a much smaller >number of messages with a larger number of recipients? I'd like to know that too. What I'm doing is individual messages individually queued, so if somebody can get 12M that way, I'm certainly paying attention. I'd be perfectly happy doing 2M per machine without crashing anything. >While it's hard to tell without looking, my guess is that your inbound >submission rate is killing the spindle that your disk lives on. Sort of looks like it. I suppose there is no meaningful way of separating the stuff I put in from what needs to go out, as it is obviously the same queue. And, still, I don't get it. I can't seem to feed much more than 60,000 messages per hour into the queue. That's between two machines standing next to each other, on a 100Mbps switched network. SMTP or QMTP seems to make no difference. That's no faster than the machine can go and deliver the messages remotely, when it is in a good mood, and nothing is coming in at the time. I would be able to create 60,000 mail message files in a couple of minutes. Should I be thinking along the lines of putting the files directly into the queue myself? I'd really be much more comfortable leaving that kind of stuff to qmail-qmtp and qmail-queue. >In other words, expect to reach your concurrencyremote. Not getting their >when everything appears right, is a sign of some other underlying problem. Now, after saying all of this, I did get a hint yesterday that my outgoing bottleneck might possibly relate to bandwidth problems. I was mailing from 3 machines at the same time, each with around 100,000 messages in the queue and concurrencyremote set at 200. And for the first time I saw one of them actually sneak up to 200, with ~3Mbps outgoing traffic, without even working very hard. However, while the other two were idling around 20-30. And a little later another of the machines went up towards 200, while the first one dropped down to 20-30. Seemed kind of bizarre, but might indicate some kind of "smart" network switch that's trying to apportion out bandwidth according to some algorhitm. I'm looking into that. - Flemming
Hi list Here's a question that hasn't been answered before, I think: Our qmail server is configured to forward every incoming e-mail to our internal mail server. There are no local user mailboxes. So .qmail files in users home-directories are out of the question. Do still have a chance to filter incoming messages based on subject or attachment type? Otherwise I'd have to look into a content security product. Management is nervous because of the recent lovebug scare... Thanks for any input. Cheers Ralf G.
Ralf Günthner wrote: > Our qmail server is configured to forward every incoming e-mail to our internal mail >server. There are no local user mailboxes. So .qmail files in users home-directories >are out of the question. > > Do still have a chance to filter incoming messages based on subject or attachment >type? > > Otherwise I'd have to look into a content security product. Management is nervous >because of the recent lovebug scare... You probably want to write wrapper around qmail-remote. AMaViS for qmail use same technique. -- Ondrej Sury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Globe Internet s.r.o. http://globe.cz/ Tel: +420235365000 Fax: +420235365009 Planickova 1, 162 00 Praha 6 Mob: +420602667702 ICQ: 24944126 Mapa: http://globe.namape.cz/ NAJDI.TO http://najdi.to/ PRESS.CZ http://press.cz/
Or you can write a wrapper around qmail-queue. I'm trying to do this, but I'm not very familiar with this, if any can give me some examples (prefereable in C) I really apreciate it. Thank's RDA.- -----Original Message----- From: Ondrej Sury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Ralf Günthner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Qmail List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 12:24 PM Subject: Re: Subject filtering on a relay-only system? Ralf Günthner wrote: > Our qmail server is configured to forward every incoming e-mail to our internal mail server. There are no local user mailboxes. So .qmail files in users home-directories are out of the question. > > Do still have a chance to filter incoming messages based on subject or attachment type? > > Otherwise I'd have to look into a content security product. Management is nervous because of the recent lovebug scare... You probably want to write wrapper around qmail-remote. AMaViS for qmail use same technique. -- Ondrej Sury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Globe Internet s.r.o. http://globe.cz/ Tel: +420235365000 Fax: +420235365009 Planickova 1, 162 00 Praha 6 Mob: +420602667702 ICQ: 24944126 Mapa: http://globe.namape.cz/ NAJDI.TO http://najdi.to/ PRESS.CZ http://press.cz/
Hi, I was wondering if anyone could help, I'm trying to move a whole load of majordomo lists to ezmlm. I need ezmlm to recognize magordomo commands given in the body of the message. I've read the FAQ's for ezmlm-idx and minordomo but I'm still slightly confused on how I'm going to convert all the majordomo list files over to something ezmlm can use and how ezmlm can be persuaded to take the commands from the message body.. Is there any easy way to do this with out having to re-input all the old majordomo details such as: list.config, list.info, list.passwd, list.restrict Any pointers would be appreciated. Best regards Rodney
On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 03:36:48PM +0100, Rodney Edwards wrote: > > I'm trying to move a whole load of majordomo lists to ezmlm. I need > ezmlm to recognize magordomo commands given in the body of the message. I've recently been considering a similar move. I've been tinkering with the idea of having procmail read messages to the listserver and then run a shell/perl script which generates the proper ezmlm email. Obviously not too scalable, but I'm not really concerned with it in my current environment. Any better ideas? MAJ
I have problem like this, I could not send an email to local user mailbox from local or from remote. The message like below: # Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mail.some-domain.com. # I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. # This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. # <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: # Sorry. Although I'm listed as a best-preference MX or A for that host, # it isn't in my control/locals file, so I don't treat it as local. (#5.4.6) I have smtp and pop3 in inetd.conf like this: smtp stream tcp nowait qmaild /var/ ..../tcp-env tcp-env /var/qmail/..../qmail-smtpd pop3 stream tcp nowait root /var/ ..../qmail-popup qmail-popup mail.some-domain.com /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/...../qmail-pop3d Maildir --------{ I take this from "Life With Qmail"} I use Maildir and, In my control/locals is localhost and mail.some-domain.com user01 has he's home directory. In my ~/users is "empty" is this the problem......? I have try to use qmail-pw2u and I git cdb in ~/users directory. But it 's still doesn't work. Please help me. Daniel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
> # <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: ... > # Sorry. Although I'm listed as a best-preference MX or A > for that host, > # it isn't in my control/locals file, so I don't treat it > as local. (#5.4.6) ... > In my control/locals is localhost and mail.some-domain.com This is all pretty clear. You don't have some-domain.com in locals. Perhaps you are operating under the assumption that since the MX for some-domain.com points to mail.some-domain.com, then all you need in locals is mail.some-domain.com. That is an incorrect assumption. -- gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,I would like to know how to retrive mail from my a qmail server if my client is located in a remote machine. Will this be done automatically when they connected to my server at port 110 if my client is using netscape or IE. or Do I have to configure qmail to retrive mail to them automatically once they connected to me.
Also, I have tried to "telnet 127.0.0.1 110", I am able to get in this time. then, i type the following commands:user mark
ok -->response from my machine
pass mark
ok -->response from my machineThen nothing happened. Is this kind of reponse correct ?? if no, what is wrong ??
Thank you
Mark
Looks like you just need to finish the command sequence. The next command would be STAT which gives you two numbers, how many messages are waiting, and how many bytes they are. Next, do a RETR 1 to get the first message. DELE 1 will delete it. Ryan On Wed, 10 May 2000, Mark Lo wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to know how to retrive mail from my a qmail server if > my client is located in a remote machine. Will this be done > automatically when they connected to my server at port 110 if my client > is using netscape or IE. or Do I have to configure qmail to retrive > mail to them automatically once they connected to me. > > Also, I have tried to "telnet 127.0.0.1 110", I am able to get in > this time. then, i type the following commands: > > user mark > ok -->response from my machine > pass mark > ok -->response from my machine > > Then nothing happened. Is this kind of reponse correct ?? if no, what > is wrong ?? > > > Thank you > > Mark >
My exisisting system is sendmail based, and I want to convert to qmail. my current setup is as follows. FreeBSD + sendmail 8.8.8. ( we are upgrading to FreeBSD 4.0 ) I currently have virtusertables, ( Kmaildomains hash /etc/mailtable.db ) where; [EMAIL PROTECTED] joe something.com tom whatever.net fred these are converted into a table, via makemap hash ( not /etc/alias ) so that [EMAIL PROTECTED] goes to user joe everything else at something.com goes to user tom anything at whatever.net goes to user fred. After this, the users .forward file in invoked, ( if found ) and, this calls procmail for most of the users on the server. the users .procmailrc file is read, and mail is delivered as per the procmail recipies. the .forward looks like this. "|IFS=' ' &&p=/usr/local/bin/procmail&&test -f $p&&exec $p -Yf-||exit 75 #joe" What I would like to do, is continue to use a similar method for all my users, so that they can convert to the .qmail method, at their leisure. ( or mine! ) I dont mind using a .qmail file to replace the .forward, as long as I can still call procmail, with the users .procmailrc file, so that things work as is for now. If I were to do this in a .qmail file, what would it look like? The documentation seems a bit spread out, with bits and peices here and there and I am not exactly sure which peices I need to do this. (fastforward, dot-forward, etc. ) Also, I would prefer to use the default $HOME/Mail for the mail storage, as long as it does not affect the hundreds of users, who user a number of various mail software to access our POP servers... ( Exchange, Netscape, etc. ) Any words of wisdom along these lines would be greatly appreciated. Many, many thanks in advance. Blaine
I'm having a problem I can't seem to find the answer to. I have a mail server running qmail. We'll call it qmail.server.com. I get access to the Internet through my ISP (who is on a completely different network than qmail.server.com), we'll call this one my.isp.com. When I send mail through the my.isp.com's SMTP server with a FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and a TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED], there are no errors. However, when I go to check my mail on qmail.server.com using port 110, I don't get the original message that was sent. All that the message contains are these headers: Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-UIDL: 91dec981d8be0a90b43b68572d927f8c Where are the other headers? Why aren't the message bodies coming through either? Any help would be greatly appreciatied. Thanks in advance. Best Regards- Eric Jennings
qmail-unsubscribe
Run the following as root: find / -type f -exec grep defaultdelivery {} /dev/null \; That should identify the source of the message. Obviously, /var/qmail/rc should contain a match. Anything else is suspect. -Dave Yup, /var/qmail/rc is there ok. OK, How's this for suspect ???? /etc/profile.d/qmail.csh: if ( `grep -c './Mailbox' /var/qmail/defaultdelivery/rc` ) then /etc/profile.d/qmail.csh: else if ( `grep -c './Maildir/' /var/qmail/defaultdelivery/rc` ) then /etc/profile.d/qmail.csh: if ( `grep -c './Mailbox' /var/qmail/defaultdelivery/rc` ) then /etc/profile.d/qmail.csh: else if ( `grep -q './Maildir/' /var/qmail/defaultdelivery/rc` ) then /etc/profile.d/qmail.sh: if grep -q './Mailbox' /var/qmail/defaultdelivery/rc; then /etc/profile.d/qmail.sh: elif grep -q './Maildir/' /var/qmail/defaultdelivery/rc; then /etc/profile.d/qmail.sh: if grep -q './Mailbox' /var/qmail/defaultdelivery/rc; then /etc/profile.d/qmail.sh: elif grep -q './Maildir/' /var/qmail/defaultdelivery/rc ; then It seems like I'm getting an error message for: if grep -q './Mailbox' /var/qmail/defaultdelivery/rc; then If this is the case, I thought that the q switch should suppress such a thing. Then again, maybe the message is from somewhere else. Which brings to mind something else... I initially installed Qmail. It seemed to work fine. I installed vpopmail and qmailadmin. Everything went downhill from there. I then removed all files (I hope all files) having anything to do with Qmail, Vpopmail and Qmailadmin and made what I thought was a fresh install of qmail. Thoughts ?? Regards, Eric
My system: RH 6.1, dedicated connection. As per the qmail memphis rpm readme file... "3) Make sure the command `hostname -f' returns the fully qualified domainname of your machine. An alias (CNAME) will not do." When i type this command in my server it simply displays hostname as "ns" and not the fqdn. There is an entry in /etc/hosts as: 64.66.10.180 ns ns.domain.com And the etc/HOSTNAME is ns.domain.com Can i go ahead with the installation of qmail with this setup or should i make any changes to the hostname ? Will there be any problem if i force the fqdn by the command hostname -F /etc/HOSTNAME Thanks in advance for any help ksamy -- +--------------------------------------------------------+ PPPshar- Internet for your LAN with one Internet account netMailshar -Email for every desktop with one 'Net account. MailAssistant - Speaking Email Notifier GetAgain - resume interrupted downloads. ___ ___ ___ Internet software "Made in India" | _ \ _ \ _ \ Visit http://www.pppindia.com/ | _/ _/ _/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |_| |_| |_| Phone:91-44-4831145,4848328. ICQ 33184480 +--------------------------------------------------------+
Long name before short name in /etc/hosts ie 64.66.10.180 ns.domain.com ns kw ----- Original Message ----- From: "PPPindia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 10 May 2000, Wednesday 15:39 Subject: hostname -f query My system: RH 6.1, dedicated connection. As per the qmail memphis rpm readme file... "3) Make sure the command `hostname -f' returns the fully qualified domainname of your machine. An alias (CNAME) will not do." When i type this command in my server it simply displays hostname as "ns" and not the fqdn. There is an entry in /etc/hosts as: 64.66.10.180 ns ns.domain.com And the etc/HOSTNAME is ns.domain.com Can i go ahead with the installation of qmail with this setup or should i make any changes to the hostname ? Will there be any problem if i force the fqdn by the command hostname -F /etc/HOSTNAME Thanks in advance for any help ksamy
Hi. I'm trying to use 822header in a .qmail file to filter out mail from certain addresses (mailer-daemon, for example). However, I'm having a little trouble with the syntax, partly because I'm a miserable shell programmer. How do I pipe the incoming message through 822header and return 99 on certain conditions? ----------------------------------------------------------------- Kai MacTane System Administrator Online Partners.com, Inc. ----------------------------------------------------------------- From the Jargon File: (v4.0.0, 25 Jul 1996) finger trouble /n./ Mistyping, typos, or generalized keyboard incompetence (this is surprisingly common among hackers, given the amount of time they spend at keyboards). "I keep putting colons at the end of statements instead of semicolons", "Finger trouble again, eh?".
I installed qmaill ( from the source ) exactly as the document "life with
qmail" from www.qmail.org/ tell me to do.
I use the Maildir format and tcpserver for running the SMTP and POP3
protocol. The server is working, I can send mail to the server and read them
from the server.
My trouble is that when a client is searching for new mails (using POP3) on
the server it takes more than 1Mn 30s to connect the port 110 !!. I
have the same trouble when I send a mail to the server( using SMTP on port
25)
This trouble appears with all of the client I have ( Windows :using Outlook
express, Netscape and Linux: using Netscape)
This is all the more bizarre that currently the mailserver is only manage
an intranet network.
Do have I forget something ??
Or do something wrong ?
Fabrice.
PS: I'm french, so my English is not very good, sorry.
On Wed, 10 May 2000, FabriceK wrote: Try adding the following switches to tcpserver: tcpserver -RH etc.... This will stop the troubles. Your server is trying to do a reverse lookup for the client. Stop the reverse lookup and the connection will work fine... Test with $ telnet server 110 Good luck, -Martin :My trouble is that when a client is searching for new mails (using POP3) on :the server it takes more than 1Mn 30s to connect the port 110 !!. I :have the same trouble when I send a mail to the server( using SMTP on port :25) : -- Martin A. Brown --- Wonderfrog Enterprises --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am running with B. Guenter's QMAILQUEUE patch with his qmail-qfilter package and have difficulty when using perl scripts in the filter train/pipeline. E.g. with the QMAILQUEUE file containing: exec /usr/bin/qmail-qfilter /usr/bin/perl -n -e '{print}' The remote smtpd session sees: $ telnet 192.168.1.11 25 Trying 192.168.1.11... Connected to 192.168.1.11. Escape character is '^]'. 220 raqee.clikx.com ESMTP helo dude 250 raqee.clikx.com mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 250 ok rcpt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 250 ok data 354 go ahead To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: testing 3 This a test . 451 qq temporary problem (#4.3.0) Whereas if I put the equivalent constructs: exec /usr/bin/qmail-qfilter /bin/awk '{print}' or exec /usr/bin/qmail-qfilter /bin/cat There is no problem. Any ideas why perl causes this error? -- Quist Consulting Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 219 Donlea Drive Voice: +1.416.696.7600 Toronto ON M4G 2N1 Fax: +1.416.978.6620 CANADA WWW: http://www.quist.on.ca
On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 07:18:46PM -0400, Russell P. Sutherland wrote: > I am running with B. Guenter's QMAILQUEUE patch with his qmail-qfilter > package and have difficulty when using perl scripts in the filter > train/pipeline. E.g. with the QMAILQUEUE file containing: > exec /usr/bin/qmail-qfilter /usr/bin/perl -n -e '{print}' > Whereas if I put the equivalent constructs: > exec /usr/bin/qmail-qfilter /bin/awk '{print}' > or > exec /usr/bin/qmail-qfilter /bin/cat > There is no problem. > Any ideas why perl causes this error? Nope. I use perl myself as a filter, so it's not just perl being wierd. The SMTP error code ("temporary problem (#4.3.0)") indicates that qmail queue (qmail-qfilter in this case) returned an unrecognized error code number. qmail-qfilter returns whatever the last item in the pipe returns, which should be 0 if your perl is working. -- Bruce Guenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://em.ca/~bruceg/
Mark Lo wrote: > Hi, > > I am using qmail as my MTA and qmail-pop3 as my MUA. For client to > send and receive e-mail from my qmail server by using Netscape or > Microsoft Outlook as their pop client. They have to fill out the > incoming mail server and outgoing mail server. Does the incoming and > outgoing mail servers imply that I need to set up two different server > for them so that they can send and receive e-mail, is that true ??... > For example, .one qmail server is for outgoing purpose and the other one > is for incoming purpose !!! As a result, I need two qmail server > located at two different machines !!! Not neccessarily. You can have them set incoming and outgoing to the same name, but don't - if your incoming and outgoing machine are the same one, give the machine two names. That way, if you want to separate the incoming or outgoing servers someday, it's nothing more than changing a DNS entry. Eric -- NEEDHAM'S ELECTRONICS Device Programmers (916) 924-8037 (Voice) http://www.needhams.com
Hi, I would like to know where is the location of unsent messages. As I have read this from the manual...it should be placed under /var/qmail/queue. But, in that directory, i couldn't find anything but i know i have some messages in the queue dir..by looking at my log file. Also, under /var/qmail/queue/...i have some sub-directory...such as info, local, mess, remote.....etc...and under those directory i got some directories...and the name is 0 10 12 15..etc.. I wonder what is it..?? Thank You mark
On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 01:00:46PM +0800, Mark Lo wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to know where is the location of unsent messages. As > I have read this from the manual...it should be placed under > /var/qmail/queue. But, in that directory, i couldn't find anything but > i know i have some messages in the queue dir..by looking at my log > file. Also, under /var/qmail/queue/...i have some sub-directory...such > as info, local, mess, remote.....etc...and under those directory i got > some directories...and the name is 0 10 12 15..etc.. I wonder what is > it..?? Try using /var/qmail/bin/qmail-qread What exactly are you trying to achieve ? > Thank You > mark HTH, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Hi, I would like to know the difference between dot-qmail and Maildrop, since the two are used to filter messages. Thank you mark
I am having a small problem when trying to issue the command: /usr/local/sbin/qmail cdb I get this error: tcprules: fatal: unable to parse this line: 127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="" /usr/local/sbin/qmail cdb That's all on one line. How come it can't parse that line? james
Follow the intructions contents in the qmail-howto.html to compile the rules file: /etc/tcp.stmp. tcprules /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb /etc/tcp.smtp.tmp < /etc/tcp.smtp Bye
lopera wrote: :Follow the intructions contents in the qmail-howto.html to compile the :rules file: /etc/tcp.stmp. :tcprules /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb /etc/tcp.smtp.tmp < /etc/tcp.smtp When I go to the directory "/usr/local/bin" and type your suggestion: ./tcprules /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb /etc/tcp.smtp.tmp < /etc/tcp.smtp I still get the same error: tcprules: fatal: unable to parse this line: 127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="" /usr/local/sbin/qmail cdb I'm confused. james
For example, if you LAN is 154.0 and your IP adrres for Qmail Host in internet is 192.168.23.5, a tcp.smtp file, must be: 127.0.0.1:allow,RELAYCLIENT="" 154.0.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="" 192.168.23.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="" Bye
Hi there, I made a post the other day to ask about hanging qmail-smtpd processes problem I'm encountering. I'm still having the problem here but just found some more 'facts' about it, so am re-posting this problem with the new info and hope someone out there happens to know how to explain this. I'm running qmail1.03 w/tcpserver and vpopmail on a Solaris2.6 box. I found that some of the qmail-smtpd processes get hung and all these smtpd processes got corresponding qmail-queue processes. All the hanging smtpd and queue show 'sleeping' when I use truss to see them and the queue process always finaly went become a Zombie process after 24hrs. I also tried to check if the messages have ever been queued and as expected found nothing that could be the message from the hanging smtp connection in the queue. It looks like something went wrong between the establishment of smtp connection and the queue-in process, but it doesn't happen in every delivery. I also tried to find out in what circumstance will it occur but failed to figure it out. Some suggested that just kill the processes and this is how I am dealing with it but am still wondering if anyone out there could explain why this is happening and eventually know some more 'cleaner' method to solve this problem. Also since the queue-in process is not finished, could I say that no message is lost due to this problem. ( I mean that from the viewpoint of the end user who is making a smtp connection to my server, will something like the user thinks that her/his message was sent but the message was actually even never queued ?) Any idea will be appreciated. Thanks in advance, --------- Wang-hua Li
Hi, I am tring to develop an email virtual domain. So, I follow the example from lwq. I have put a new domain which is called "3dsources.com" in /control/rphosts and /control/vitualdomains. and in the virtualdomains file I put a line like that "3dsources.com:local" -->without the quotes. Then I create a user called local, and run the command maildirmake..then change the ownership with local. Then I try to mail something to 3dsources.com...like [EMAIL PROTECTED], every mail should go to local if the domain name is 3dsources.com according to the virtualdomain file, am i right?? But, I got the following error messages from my log file, stating that "sorry Although I am listed as a best preference MX or A for that host, It is not in my control/local file, so I don't treat it a local. (#5.4.6)." I have setup up my DNS record... Please help, I don't know what did I do wrong?? Please point it out. Thank You mark
Thanks to Mark Lo and Jerry Walsh, (and some others) for suggestions and help.. looks like I've corrected the error. For anyone curious, Jerry suggested that I: Remove the file and start over in it just put: 127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="" save the file as /etc/tcp.smtp then compile the file with: tcprules /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb /etc/tcp.smtp.tmp < /etc/tcp.smtp This fixed the problem. Thanks again. James
I've fixed the parse problem, which I was hoping was going to fix the problem I have having with receiving mail, but it didn't. I've rebooted since the parse fix. I can send an email to myself internally, but if I try to send an email to myself from another server.. it never reaches. What is the mechanism that allows outside mail to reach a user, such as [EMAIL PROTECTED]? I understand that rcpthosts allows relaying.. but that doesn't control WHO sends mail to me on my server, does it? If so, this would mean that I cannot get mail from anyone but who I choose. This isn't correct, is it? I used to be able to receive email when I was using sendmail, so I believe my MX is set up correctly. I don't know what to check. Thanks James
