qmail Digest 19 May 2000 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 1006
Topics (messages 41952 through 42043):
A good book for qmail
41952 by: simon.interoute.net.uk
41955 by: Peter van Dijk
Re: Slow Mail Delivery
41953 by: Greg Owen
Re: Mysterious `ezmlm-send:_fatal:_temporary_qmail-queue_error:_/'
41954 by: Matthew Bloch
Re: mail between 2 host in one domain
41956 by: Greg Owen
Re: I want to leave this list
41957 by: Jan Stifter
41959 by: Lars-Åke Torlind
41962 by: Troy Frericks
41965 by: Len Budney
41966 by: Peter Green
41970 by: Mark Brown
41982 by: Keith Warno
41997 by: Bruno Wolff III
42014 by: Andy Bradford
42015 by: Troy Frericks
42017 by: Troy Frericks
42018 by: Peter Cavender
42029 by: Russ Allbery
42033 by: Russell Nelson
42034 by: clemensF
42038 by: Paulo Jan
42039 by: Steffan Hoeke
42041 by: clemensF
42043 by: John Stile
ip address scheme
41958 by: kapil sharma
41960 by: Anton Pirnat
41963 by: kapil sharma
qmail problem
41961 by: kapil sharma
42042 by: kapil sharma
Re: Purpose of this list
41964 by: Dave Sill
41971 by: Steve Peace
41972 by: Patrick Berry
41973 by: Jon Saunders
41981 by: Brad Johnson
Re: Qmail on a linux cluster
41967 by: Matthew S. Crocker
Re: qmail-ldap error message!!
41968 by: Dave Kitabjian
Re: mailquotacheck error
41969 by: Dave Kitabjian
'qmail-pop3d' where does the authentication come from?
41974 by: Bob Carpenter
41975 by: Petr Novotny
41976 by: Bob Carpenter
41977 by: Chris Johnson
41978 by: Petr Novotny
41983 by: Bob Carpenter
41985 by: Dave Sill
Re: POP-3 problem
41979 by: clemensF
Re: How to apply a patch and conserve Bruce G's structure?
41980 by: Will Harris
Re: ORBs problem and Qmail (@@@ related)
41984 by: Greg Moeller
41988 by: Greg Moeller
time error on qmail
41986 by: Zhiliang Hu
41990 by: Martin Gignac
41991 by: Dave Sill
41995 by: Timothy L. Mayo
Re: vpopmail pop3 access
41987 by: Chester Chee
41992 by: Chester Chee
qmail is like a chainsaw
41989 by: dsr.bbn.com
42008 by: clemensF
42013 by: Peter Cavender
42019 by: Peter Cavender
setlock-ing serialmail?
41993 by: Paulo Jan
41996 by: Mikko Hänninen
qmail-inject question
41994 by: blue
42010 by: clemensF
qmail works but does not accept mail from outside
41998 by: Lubos Zan
multiple hosts & domains
41999 by: Graphic Rezidew
42000 by: Chris Johnson
Auto-create User's $HOME via qmail
42001 by: Ruediger Kern
42009 by: clemensF
Re: webmail
42002 by: Brent R. Matzelle
ezmlm-make -em, -r and -s not supported
42003 by: Peter Schuller
42011 by: Peter Green
Missing info Quest for knowlege
42004 by: Danger
42012 by: Peter Green
42020 by: clemensF
oMail and IMAP conflict potential?
42005 by: Adam Roberts
42006 by: Olivier M.
Re: Purpose of this list]
42007 by: Tom ONeil
/etc/hosts or DNS?
42016 by: Jianping Song
42021 by: Chris Johnson
qmail-start out of control
42022 by: Keven Jones
42023 by: Chris Johnson
42027 by: Russell Nelson
preline: _Not_enough_space
42024 by: Lidia Marchioni
42026 by: Uwe Ohse
42030 by: Russell Nelson
qmail-qstat and qmaill-qread differences...
42025 by: Martin Gignac
error messages
42028 by: Ismal Hisham Darus
42031 by: Russell Nelson
Re: Where is the script that starts smtp server?
42032 by: James
log
42035 by: Marco Benetton
42036 by: Petr Novotny
42040 by: clemensF
The current status of IETF drafts concerning bare linefeeds
42037 by: Lindsay Haisley
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Hi,
Can anyone recommend a good all round book for qmail?
Something like an O'Rielly book
Thanks,
--
Simon Swaysland
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On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 11:57:31AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Can anyone recommend a good all round book for qmail?
>
> Something like an O'Rielly book
The O'Reilly book is Not There Yet(tm).
Try Life with qmail, which you can read online at
http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html
LWQ rocks.
Greetz, Peter.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Peter van Dijk [student:developer:madly in love]
> I recently was running low on disk space on the my var
> partition. To solve the problem, I moved all of the
> contents over to another partition on the same drive
> that had more space on it (usr). After moving everything
> over I made it so that var wouldn't mount on its on
> partition and then started up in single user mode and
> built a link to the subdirectory on the usr partition.
> /var --> /usr/rootvar.
>
> Why would this be slowing things down?
>
> I takes from 5 to 10 minutes to deliver a local email.
> It never used to.
http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html#trigger
--
gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 18 May 2000, Matthew Bloch wrote:
> Hello, after seeing the above msg in my log files when trying to post to a
> newly-created mailing list, I found that this exchange caused the error:
>
> lists@kcsu:~$ ezmlm-make /home/lists/kings-budget \
> /home/lists/.qmail-kings-budget lists-kings-budget kcsu.org.uk
> lists@kcsu:~$ ezmlm-sub /home/lists/kings-budget/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> lists@kcsu:~$ ezmlm-send kings-budget/ <testmsg
> ezmlm-send: fatal: temporary qmail-queue error:
>
> If I try the same three commands on my personal box (where I set up qmail
> 1.03 from source and plain ezmlm, I think), it queues the message up just
> fine. I'm using the latest qmail and ezmlm-idx packages in Debian, if
> that helps. Any ideas?
Additional: the ezmlm FAQ says this error comes either from a corrupt
subscriber list (how could this have happened on a brand new list?), or a
dodgy queue: and I get the same error after I've run qmail-qsanity and
qmail-queuefix over the queue and restarted qmail.
--
Matthew ( http://www.soup-kitchen.demon.co.uk/ )
( ICQ 19482073 if you're lucky )
> but if i send mail from head.paic.com to alpha.paic.com,
> error occur with a message below:
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++
> May 18 10:51:00 localhost qmail: 958618260.602667 starting
> delivery 24: msg 4820 1 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> May 18 10:51:00 localhost qmail: 958618260.602729 status:
> local 0/10 remote 1/20
> May 18 10:51:00 localhost qmail: 958618260.609898 delivery
> 24: failure: Sorry._Although_I'm_listed_as_a_best-
> preference_MX_or_A_for_that_host,it_isn't_in_my_
> control/locals_file,_so_I_don't_treat_it_as_local._(#5.4.6)/
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
It looks like the you're sending to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not
[EMAIL PROTECTED], but don't have alpha.paic.com in locals on alpha (if you did,
that would mean mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED] is delivered locally on the
machine alpha).
The right fix is to test by sending to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If your MX
records are correctly configured and you have "paic.com" in rcpthosts on
alpha, then alpha will accept the mail and attempt to deliver it to the
best-preference MX for paic.com (presumably head.paic.com).
It's probably possible to redirect mail for alpha.paic.com to
paic.com (smtproutes; I don't know if it'll redirect to the domain or just
to head.paic.com) but probably not necessary. In normal operation, you
shouldn't get people mailing to the actual host, assuming all your clients
are correctly configured to send mail as "@paic.com".
--
gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 17 May 2000 18:54:34 -0300, Frederiko dos Santos Costa
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>How I do to leave this list ?
>
we see a lot of these messages coming across.
did you think of a header or footer, with some text like:
------
to unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
to view the archive, take a look at: http://www.where.the/archive/is
------
most of the mailing lists i am subscribed have something like this.
jan
I have sent an unsubscribe message got an confirmation that I will be
removed but I still get mails sent to this list.
/L-Å
-----Original Message-----
From: Jan Stifter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 2:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: I want to leave this list
On Wed, 17 May 2000 18:54:34 -0300, Frederiko dos Santos Costa
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>How I do to leave this list ?
>
we see a lot of these messages coming across.
did you think of a header or footer, with some text like:
------
to unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
to view the archive, take a look at: http://www.where.the/archive/is
------
most of the mailing lists i am subscribed have something like this.
jan
Has anybody given an explanation as to why this simple change has not been
implemented on this list. Kinds of seems silly that it has not been done,
especially given the extra messages not having it generates.
#
At 07:21 AM 5/18/00 , Jan Stifter wrote:
[snip]
>we see a lot of these messages coming across.
>did you think of a header or footer, with some text like:
>
>------
>to unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>to view the archive, take a look at: http://www.where.the/archive/is
>------
>
[snip]
Troy Frericks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> [footer giving unsubscribe information]
> Has anybody given an explanation as to why this simple change has not been
> implemented on this list. Kinds of seems silly that it has not been done,
> especially given the extra messages not having it generates.
Sigh; your post is also a FAQ (though it isn't in the FAQ). The answer is
that unsubscribe information is provided in the header of every post (partly
because Dan would like MUA authors to implement list-handling functions which
can easily read headers automatically).
If users will not read the header, they will not pay attention to
the footer either. You will probably get replies from people who've
subscribed to lists which use footers that way, and they will tell you
that the same questions are posted to those lists. Nothing is saved
(though some bandwidth is wasted).
I once actually wrote to a jackass who did exactly that. He replied that
it was a waste of his time to grovel around looking for instructions:
all he had to do was hit ``reply'' and post ``unsubscribe'' messages,
and sooner or later he would be unsubscribed. It was Somebody Else's
Problem (tm).
Len.
--
Frugal Tip #50:
Have everyone in your family agree to share the same toothbrush.
also sprach lars-ake.torlind:
> I have sent an unsubscribe message got an confirmation that I will be
> removed but I still get mails sent to this list.
You'll need to reply to that confirmation. Just like the instructions say to
do. ;)
/pg
--
Peter Green
Gospel Communications Network, SysAdmin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 08:45:30AM -0400, Len Budney wrote:
> If users will not read the header, they will not pay attention to
> the footer either. You will probably get replies from people who've
> subscribed to lists which use footers that way, and they will tell you
> that the same questions are posted to those lists. Nothing is saved
> (though some bandwidth is wasted).
The unsubscription requests are greatly reduced, though. People are
likely to notice information in the actual message but most headers
are normally hidden by MUAs and people might not think to look at them
for this sort of information.
--
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http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/
EUFS http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/
What do ya think of people actually saving the initial messages they get
when they subscribe to the list?
Or better yet, read the mail headers for qmail list messages which have a
the line
Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm
A blank message to that address will spit back a mail like the one below my
signature.
Notice the lines:
"DO NOT SEND ADMINISTRATIVE REQUESTS TO THE MAILING LIST!
If you do, I won't see them, and subscribers will yell at you."
Sheesh.
kw
/* Keith Warno
** Developer & Sys Admin
** http://www.HaggleWare.com/
*/
Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
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This is a generic help message. The message I received wasn't sent to
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See http://pobox.com/~djb/qmail.html for more information about qmail.
Please read http://pobox.com/~djb/qmail/faq.html before sending your
question to the qmail mailing list.
--- Here are the ezmlm command addresses.
I can handle administrative requests automatically.
Just send an empty note to any of these addresses:
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Receive future messages sent to the mailing list.
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Stop receiving messages.
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If you do, I won't see them, and subscribers will yell at you.
To specify [EMAIL PROTECTED] as your subscription address, send mail
to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
I'll send a confirmation message to that address; when you receive that
message, simply reply to it to complete your subscription.
--- Below this line is a copy of the request I received.
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On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 07:33:08AM -0500,
Troy Frericks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Has anybody given an explanation as to why this simple change has not been
> implemented on this list. Kinds of seems silly that it has not been done,
> especially given the extra messages not having it generates.
Because it doesn't help much. For a lot of lists, checking the subject
and body for things that appeared to be list requests and bouncing them
makes sense. For a technical list about email you want to be careful
about how you do that.
I wonder how many of these people subscribe by clicking on a mailto link
on some web page without understanding how the request is being made.
Getting rid of such links might make it a lot harder for people who
really don't want to be on this list to get on it.
Thus said "Keith Warno" on Thu, 18 May 2000 12:44:29 EDT:
> What do ya think of people actually saving the initial messages they get
> when they subscribe to the list?
What I find amusing is that they are intelligent enough to subscribe
themselves, but then when subscribed they suddenly lose that same
intelligence that brought them there in the first place. I guess it's
like hiking up a mountain but then becoming unable to find the way
down... :-)
Andy
--
uptime:
7:05pm up 17 days, 4:22, 1 user, load average: 1.42, 1.36, 1.32
At 01:22 PM 5/18/00 , Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 07:33:08AM -0500,
> Troy Frericks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Has anybody given an explanation as to why this simple change has not been
>> implemented on this list. Kinds of seems silly that it has not been done,
>> especially given the extra messages not having it generates.
>
>Because it doesn't help much. For a lot of lists, checking the subject
>and body for things that appeared to be list requests and bouncing them
>makes sense. For a technical list about email you want to be careful
>about how you do that.
Bruno,
You lost me. The reply was regarding adding a footer.
With the number of "Nubie" requests on this list, I think your argument is
invalid. All I can say is that about every two weeks there is somebody
asking how to get off of the list, and several more posts follow that
asking to not post such requests to this list, some answer the question,
several have ended with the phrase "sheesh".
Why don't we TRY ADDING A FOOTER WITH UNSUBSCRIBE INSTRUCTIONS TO EACH
MESSAGE, just TRY it? What is there to be afraid of?
>
>I wonder how many of these people subscribe by clicking on a mailto link
>on some web page without understanding how the request is being made.
>Getting rid of such links might make it a lot harder for people who
>really don't want to be on this list to get on it.
At 08:05 PM 5/18/00 , Andy Bradford wrote:
>Thus said "Keith Warno" on Thu, 18 May 2000 12:44:29 EDT:
>
>> What do ya think of people actually saving the initial messages they get
>> when they subscribe to the list?
>
>What I find amusing is that they are intelligent enough to subscribe
>themselves, but then when subscribed they suddenly lose that same
>intelligence that brought them there in the first place. I guess it's
>like hiking up a mountain but then becoming unable to find the way
>down... :-)
OK, so they are stupid. Now, let's help them out so they don't have to
waste bandwidth and everybody's time. Lets send them several messages each
day with something in the body that all mail clients can read that tells
them how to unsubscribe. After all, they are stupid, give them something
they can't miss. Don't burry it in the header, don't require them to keep
something, don't require them to remember a web site, just attach the
information to the end of each message; then those stupid people will feel
real stupid if they miss it.
#
>
>Andy
>--
>uptime:
> 7:05pm up 17 days, 4:22, 1 user, load average: 1.42, 1.36, 1.32
>
>
>Why don't we TRY ADDING A FOOTER WITH UNSUBSCRIBE INSTRUCTIONS TO EACH
>MESSAGE, just TRY it? What is there to be afraid of?
I use qmail/ezmlm-idx, and it adds subscribe/unsubscribe stuff to the
HEADER. Maybe this list should use thes extensions...?
Troy Frericks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> OK, so they are stupid. Now, let's help them out so they don't have to
> waste bandwidth and everybody's time. Lets send them several messages
> each day with something in the body that all mail clients can read that
> tells them how to unsubscribe.
Let's not.
It breaks MIME structured bodies, which are often useful for particular
purposes. It breaks some signed posts. It's useless information for 99%
of the recipients. And I'm really sick of seeing mailing list posts
accumulate more and more worthless junk to the point that it's practically
more unwanted bytes in my mailbox than spam is. It's rather simple to
skip over the messages from the completely lost people; footers that any
intelligent person doesn't need are both intrusive and ugly.
--
Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
Russ Allbery writes:
> skip over the messages from the completely lost people; footers that any
> intelligent person doesn't need are both intrusive and ugly.
Ignorance is self-extinguishing. Point it out and it goes away. (I
bet you never knew that -- but you do now -- see, it's true!) But
trailers are forever. And so are these arguments over adding footers.
I'm too lazy to look over the archive, but I'm sure the "Help reduce
traffic on the list -- add a trailer" itself overwhelms the requests
for unsubscription, both by bytes and by number (add another 2K bytes
and one message to account for this message.) Not to mention the size
of the trailers multiplied by every posting on this rather busy list.
Those alone are probably more bytes than Dan Bernstein has posted to
this list! And he wrote the silly thing!
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> Troy Frericks:
> Why don't we TRY ADDING A FOOTER WITH UNSUBSCRIBE INSTRUCTIONS TO EACH
> MESSAGE, just TRY it? What is there to be afraid of?
who would evaluate the result? we should try, but also really watch what's
happening.
--
clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
do D4685B884894C483
>
> OK, so they are stupid. Now, let's help them out so they don't have to
> waste bandwidth and everybody's time. Lets send them several messages each
> day with something in the body that all mail clients can read that tells
> them how to unsubscribe. After all, they are stupid, give them something
> they can't miss. Don't burry it in the header, don't require them to keep
> something, don't require them to remember a web site, just attach the
> information to the end of each message; then those stupid people will feel
> real stupid if they miss it.
> #
Based on my experience in other mailing lists, I can guarantee you
that, after adding unsubbing information in the footer of the message,
you will *still* receive mails from people asking "remove me" or "how do
I unsub".
Paulo Jan.
DDnet.
On Fri, May 19, 2000 at 09:07:17AM +0200, Paulo Jan wrote:
> >
> > OK, so they are stupid. Now, let's help them out so they don't have to
> > waste bandwidth and everybody's time. Lets send them several messages each
> > day with something in the body that all mail clients can read that tells
> > them how to unsubscribe. After all, they are stupid, give them something
> > they can't miss. Don't burry it in the header, don't require them to keep
> > something, don't require them to remember a web site, just attach the
> > information to the end of each message; then those stupid people will feel
> > real stupid if they miss it.
> > #
>
> Based on my experience in other mailing lists, I can guarantee you
> that, after adding unsubbing information in the footer of the message,
> you will *still* receive mails from people asking "remove me" or "how do
> I unsub".
Maybe we should all make a habit of replying to those questions with the
"Idiot's guide to unsubscribe manual" Dave Sill posted on this list a couple
of weeks ago ;-)
My $0.001 worth <G>
Steffan
--
http://therookie.dyndns.org
> Russ Allbery:
> It breaks MIME structured bodies, which are often useful for particular
> purposes. It breaks some signed posts. It's useless information for 99%
> of the recipients. And I'm really sick of seeing mailing list posts
> accumulate more and more worthless junk to the point that it's practically
> more unwanted bytes in my mailbox than spam is. It's rather simple to
you don't take into account that the 'net evolves. gone are the times when
people exchanged email who had also the knowledge to configure uucp.
nowadays any idiot grabs a mouse and klicks away. commerce wants this:
the same idiots are internet customers who don't care how a network is
operated as long as kicks are delivered.
give them a one line footer telling how to unsub. tomorrow the chief
executive information officer of the it-company you work for will keep
asking you how to turn off the lights. thats what commerce wants, because
that's how they sell nuclear plants and pentium V's.
--
clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've got qmail installed and I can send mail, and maildir's are filling up
with new mail.
I need to find docs on getting to my mail with netscape, from remote, and
setting the pop3 server. Later I need to make the virtual domains work.
Which docs should I read?
Is there a grid of options so I can gain some perspective on on my options?
I've been doing a lot of reading just to see if it's what I should be reading.
Please give me a direction. My eyes are popping out.
I hope O'Reilly publishes some organized stuff some day.
Thanks for any direction you can offer.
Hi,
I am implementing a fresh Intranet for our organization. i am assigning
the following IP scheme:
IP address range: 192.168.254.1- 192.168.254.254
netmask : 254.254.254.0
Is there any mistake in this scheme. Please help!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ursprüngliche Nachricht <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Am 19.05.00, 01:54:23, schrieb kapil sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
zum Thema ip address scheme:
> Hi,
> I am implementing a fresh Intranet for our organization. i am
assigning
> the following IP scheme:
> IP address range: 192.168.254.1- 192.168.254.254
> netmask : 254.254.254.0
> Is there any mistake in this scheme. Please help!!
yep.. the netmsak (as most other things at computers do) start its
counting at 0 til 255 (256 possible values) . So it must be an
255.255.255.0 in your case.
hth
Anton Pirnat
Does it belong to qmail? (is there a given trademark for that
sentence, Dave?)
Thanks . Actually i made a mistake writing this mail. I will make it
255.255.255.0. Any other issue or should I finalize this scheme. I want
it for Intranet that means it should not contain any internet IP address.
Thank you
kapil
Anton Pirnat wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ursprüngliche Nachricht <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
> Am 19.05.00, 01:54:23, schrieb kapil sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> zum Thema ip address scheme:
>
> > Hi,
> > I am implementing a fresh Intranet for our organization. i am
> assigning
> > the following IP scheme:
> > IP address range: 192.168.254.1- 192.168.254.254
> > netmask : 254.254.254.0
> > Is there any mistake in this scheme. Please help!!
>
> yep.. the netmsak (as most other things at computers do) start its
> counting at 0 til 255 (256 possible values) . So it must be an
> 255.255.255.0 in your case.
>
> hth
>
> Anton Pirnat
>
> Does it belong to qmail? (is there a given trademark for that
> sentence, Dave?)
Hi,
I have one strange problem. Whenever I am sending mail to my local
domain then its adding the domain name twise.
For example: I want to send the mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" from "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" .
It will esend the mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" with from address
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]@foo.com". What can be the problem? Please help.
Hi,
I am having some strange problem. When ever I am sending mail from local
to local
user then it is adding the domain name for 2 time in from address:
for example: If i will send a mail from" [EMAIL PROTECTED]" to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
then
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" will get a mail with from address as "[EMAIL PROTECTED]@foo.com".
Please
help?
kapil
Brad Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>However, qmail does suffer from the same issue as BSD traditionally
>has, which is that everyone involved is too damned smart, so they
>write in terse, dense and frighteningly useful language and get
>annoyed when people have difficulty parsing the information.
I worked hard to make "Life with qmail" newbie-friendly, and I try
hard to be newbie-friendly on this list. If you have specific
constructive suggestions on how I can improve either, please let me
know.
>The other section that doesn't exist (or does it? It's not easy to
>find) is "Qmail for users" which would talk about qmail just from the
>perspective of the *nix user, with the userland commands, without
>mixing it all in with the admin info.
See:
http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#usage
-Dave
Dave,
You do not need to improve anything! LWQ and your deamenor on this list is
outstanding. I was an extreme qmail newbie. I had know idea how to do
anything!! After reading all of the necissary information, I was still
confused. Then I found LWQ(Thanks to this list). Just by using LWQ I had a
test server running in 2 weeks. After my test server was complete, I made
the transition to a production server. I accomplished this in 2 hours.
When I did have problems, usually related to being a newbie, You and 99% of
the people on this list gave me the neccissary information or at least a
nudge in the right direction. If this indivdual does not like the "quality
of support" that is being received from the qmail community then the only
thing that I can suggest is that he switch to sendmail and buy a book!
Steve P.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Sill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 8:39 AM
Subject: RE: Purpose of this list
> Brad Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >However, qmail does suffer from the same issue as BSD traditionally
> >has, which is that everyone involved is too damned smart, so they
> >write in terse, dense and frighteningly useful language and get
> >annoyed when people have difficulty parsing the information.
>
> I worked hard to make "Life with qmail" newbie-friendly, and I try
> hard to be newbie-friendly on this list. If you have specific
> constructive suggestions on how I can improve either, please let me
> know.
>
> >The other section that doesn't exist (or does it? It's not easy to
> >find) is "Qmail for users" which would talk about qmail just from the
> >perspective of the *nix user, with the userland commands, without
> >mixing it all in with the admin info.
>
> See:
>
> http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#usage
>
> -Dave
>
on 5/18/00 7:11 AM, Steve Peace had the thought:
> You do not need to improve anything! LWQ and your deamenor on this list is
> outstanding.
Trying to not sound like a gratuitous 'me too' I have to say he is right.
Unfortunately I started my qmail career before LWQ was released but still if
you take these (and maybe other) common steps before posting:
Read INSTALL -> Read FAW -> Search list archives
you will have a much better experience on this list. I've set up qmail on
at least 8 machines now with a variety on configurations and I stay on this
list because I learn something new/cool every day. Occasionally I can spot
an easy problem and help someone out. Isn't that is what it's supposed to
be all about? I guess it's that or asking when the book will be out ;-)
Pat
--
Freestyle Interactive | http://www.freestyleinteractive.com | 415.778.0610
I would just like to affirm the people on this list. I am a newbie to Linux
and qmail, and have learned a bunch from this list. Yes, some of the terms
are cryptic, but with a little research, I can usually find what they mean.
When I asked for help, I was responded to very politely and the response got
me pointed in the right direction to fix the problem. I used Life With
qmail as my guide, and it was great. My hat is off to this list!
Jon Saunders
SECPA
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Sill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 6:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Purpose of this list
Brad Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>However, qmail does suffer from the same issue as BSD traditionally
>has, which is that everyone involved is too damned smart, so they
>write in terse, dense and frighteningly useful language and get
>annoyed when people have difficulty parsing the information.
I worked hard to make "Life with qmail" newbie-friendly, and I try
hard to be newbie-friendly on this list. If you have specific
constructive suggestions on how I can improve either, please let me
know.
>The other section that doesn't exist (or does it? It's not easy to
>find) is "Qmail for users" which would talk about qmail just from the
>perspective of the *nix user, with the userland commands, without
>mixing it all in with the admin info.
See:
http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#usage
-Dave
> From: Dave Sill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> Brad Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >However, qmail does suffer from the same issue as BSD traditionally
> >has, which is that everyone involved is too damned smart, so they
> >write in terse, dense and frighteningly useful language and get
> >annoyed when people have difficulty parsing the information.
>
> I worked hard to make "Life with qmail" newbie-friendly, and I try
> hard to be newbie-friendly on this list. If you have specific
> constructive suggestions on how I can improve either, please let me
> know.
>
I purposely didn't want the above to sound like a criticism; that's
why it was contained within <quibble> tags. It's meant to praise you
with faint damnation: "too damned smart" and "frighteningly useful"
is not meant to be an effective insult.
However, I don't think it's unreasonable to draw an analogy between
qmail and BSD; even though qmail came after sendmail and BSD before Linux,
the language used by qmailers to describe sendmail is heavily reminiscent
of the language used by BSDers to describe Linux; also, qmail shares
many basic goals with BSD (security,clean code,superiority). I think that
qmail is more like Linux in that qmail seems destined to replace sendmail
over time as the dominant MTA. All IMHO.
I think I was trying to say that reasonable people can be confused by
qmail, just because it's a very powerful and complex program, not because
it's poorly documented. There's no way to make building a mile-long bridge
simple and easy; there's no way to make building a robust, secure and
flexible
MTA simple and easy.
That said, I'd say that qmail and the qmail community comes as close as
possible to that goal. In other words, qmail is pretty damn newbie friendly,
even though it's an impossible task.
Suggestions: the qmail.org page should highlight "Life with qmail" and
the other generally useful documents. It's buried near the bottom of the
User-Contributed Documentation page, below broken links to Michael Samuel
and a bunch of specialty documentations.
I also sent a bunch of hopefully useful suggestions/tweaks for "Life" to
Dave.
On Wed, 17 May 2000, David L. Nicol wrote:
> Does NetFiler let you run other programs on it? I would
> put one instance of qmail on the netfiler, and insert little
> tcp-server-protected relay pipes on the other machines to answer
> port 25. Use maildir.
No, The netfiler is a RAID <-> NFS/CIFS/HTTP only box. It is *very*
*very* fast as an NFS server. The concept is to remove the CPU power from
the drive space. Each server in the cluster is connect at 100mbps to a
cisco 3548 with a gigabit going to the NetFiler. I've been hammering the
thing and it just rocks :)
Thanks for the info everyone, Looks like it'll be a piece of cake, I just
need to run MailDir for sure.
-
Matt
Dear 8823544,
You will probably have more luck with qmail-ldap-specific issues on the
qmail-ldap mailing list:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ciao,
Dave
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 8823544 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 6:08 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: qmail-ldap error message!!
>
>
>
> Hi,everyone:
> While I have already set up my
> qmail(with ldap patch) and Openldap server,
> I send a mail to the mail server and have some
> error in logfile,
> "Temporary_error_in_qmail-qmqpc_(as_mail_forwarder)_(LDAP-ERR_#239)".
> What dose the message mean?
>
>
>
>
I looks like you're running into a resource limit, such as not enough
disk space, not enough RAM, or no more room in the process table to fork
a new process.
Dave
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Luis Bezerra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 12:20 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: mailquotacheck error
>
...
> anyone knows this mailquotacheck error:
>
> /usr/bin/mailquotacheck: fork: Rasource temporarily unavailable
> QUOTACHECK ERROR: the mail quotacheck program cannot
> determine the size
> of this message. Please inform postmaster of the site you are
> tryiong to
> mail to.
I've been running into password authentication problems with my RH 6.2
implementation. Open-ssh does weird things too... but back to qmail.
Here's the info I hope is relevant:
Telnetting into the POP3 server, fails:
[root@mercury bob]# telnet localhost 110
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to mercury.redsea.co.cr (127.0.0.1).
Escape character is '^]'.
+OK <961.958499285@\>
user bob
+OK
pass xxxxxxx
-ERR authorization failed
Connection closed by foreign host.
Yet, using the checkpassword test as indicated in INSTALL for checkpassword:
root@mercury bob]# /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup host /bin/checkpassword pwd
+OK <968.958499400@host>
user bob
+OK
pass xxxxxxx
/home/bob
[root@mercury bob]#
In /etc/inetd.conf I have:
pop3 stream tcp nowait root /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup
qmail-popup \
mercury.redsea.co.cr /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d
Maildir
In /etc/services (as mentioned in the Note for Life with qmail.):
pop3 110/tcp pop-3 # POP version 3
pop3 110/udp pop-3
As always, constructive criticism, tips and suggestions are always
appreciated.
R. (Bob) Carpenter
CIO-Chief Information Officer
RedSea Management Ltd.
San José, Costa Rica
(506) 204-3300
(506) 204-7090 fax
PGP Key available by request.
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On 18 May 00, at 9:16, Bob Carpenter wrote:
> Telnetting into the POP3 server, fails:
>
> [root@mercury bob]# telnet localhost 110
> Trying 127.0.0.1...
> Connected to mercury.redsea.co.cr (127.0.0.1).
> Escape character is '^]'.
> +OK <961.958499285@\>
Backslash?
> In /etc/inetd.conf I have:
>
> pop3 stream tcp nowait root /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup
> qmail-popup \
> mercury.redsea.co.cr /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d
> Maildir
The backslash should be there only if you split the line in two;
otherwise (if it's on one line), don't put the backslash in.
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Petr Novotny, ANTEK CS
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.antek.cz
PGP key ID: 0x3BA9BC3F
-- Don't you know there ain't no devil there's just God when he's drunk.
[Tom Waits]
Cut and paste/line wrap error:
It is two discrete lines with a "\" at the end of the first line.
(This comes from Life with qmail.)
pop3 stream tcp nowait root /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup
qmail-popup \
mercury.redsea.co.cr /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d
Maildir
R. (Bob) Carpenter
CIO-Chief Information Officer
RedSea Management Ltd.
San José, Costa Rica
(506) 204-3300
(506) 204-7090 fax
PGP Key available by request.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Petr Novotny [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 9:20 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: 'qmail-pop3d' where does the authentication come from?
>
>
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>
> On 18 May 00, at 9:16, Bob Carpenter wrote:
>
> > Telnetting into the POP3 server, fails:
> >
> > [root@mercury bob]# telnet localhost 110
> > Trying 127.0.0.1...
> > Connected to mercury.redsea.co.cr (127.0.0.1).
> > Escape character is '^]'.
> > +OK <961.958499285@\>
>
> Backslash?
>
> > In /etc/inetd.conf I have:
> >
> > pop3 stream tcp nowait root /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup
> > qmail-popup \
> > mercury.redsea.co.cr /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d
> > Maildir
>
> The backslash should be there only if you split the line in two;
> otherwise (if it's on one line), don't put the backslash in.
>
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> --
> Petr Novotny, ANTEK CS
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.antek.cz
> PGP key ID: 0x3BA9BC3F
> -- Don't you know there ain't no devil there's just God when he's drunk.
> [Tom Waits]
On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 09:16:27AM -0600, Bob Carpenter wrote:
> I've been running into password authentication problems with my RH 6.2
> implementation. Open-ssh does weird things too... but back to qmail.
>
> Here's the info I hope is relevant:
>
> Telnetting into the POP3 server, fails:
>
> [root@mercury bob]# telnet localhost 110
> Trying 127.0.0.1...
> Connected to mercury.redsea.co.cr (127.0.0.1).
> Escape character is '^]'.
> +OK <961.958499285@\>
> user bob
> +OK
> pass xxxxxxx
> -ERR authorization failed
> Connection closed by foreign host.
>
> Yet, using the checkpassword test as indicated in INSTALL for checkpassword:
>
> root@mercury bob]# /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup host /bin/checkpassword pwd
> +OK <968.958499400@host>
> user bob
> +OK
> pass xxxxxxx
> /home/bob
> [root@mercury bob]#
>
> In /etc/inetd.conf I have:
>
> pop3 stream tcp nowait root /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup
> qmail-popup \
> mercury.redsea.co.cr /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d
> Maildir
You can't split lines in inetd.conf using \ (or anything else). Just stick it
all on one line and take the \ out.
Chris
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On 18 May 00, at 9:29, Bob Carpenter wrote:
> Cut and paste/line wrap error:
>
> It is two discrete lines with a "\" at the end of the first line.
>
> (This comes from Life with qmail.)
>
> pop3 stream tcp nowait root /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup
> qmail-popup \
> mercury.redsea.co.cr /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d
> Maildir
Well, the problem clearly is that qmail-popup thinks that backslash
is the hostname; it then tries to execve() mercury.redsea.co.cr
which fails.
Try to experiment with the line; try to make it one line only, without
backslash...
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Petr Novotny, ANTEK CS
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.antek.cz
PGP key ID: 0x3BA9BC3F
-- Don't you know there ain't no devil there's just God when he's drunk.
[Tom Waits]
This is a documentation convention I was unaware of.
Thank you for clearing this up and subsequently solving my problem.
Then is it likely that the script under /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd/run
(as mentioned in the Life with qmail) is also incorrect? Or is it just inetd
that doesn't process multiple lines?
>From section 2.8.2 System Startup files:
Create the /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd/run file:
#!/bin/sh
QMAILDUID=`id -u qmaild`
NOFILESGID=`id -g qmaild`
exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 2000000 \
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -p -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb \
-u $QMAILDUID -g $NOFILESGID 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 2>&1
Thank you,
Bob
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 9:31 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: 'qmail-pop3d' where does the authentication come from?
>
>
> On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 09:16:27AM -0600, Bob Carpenter wrote:
> > I've been running into password authentication problems with my RH 6.2
> > implementation. Open-ssh does weird things too... but back to qmail.
> >
> > Here's the info I hope is relevant:
> >
> > Telnetting into the POP3 server, fails:
> >
> > [root@mercury bob]# telnet localhost 110
> > Trying 127.0.0.1...
> > Connected to mercury.redsea.co.cr (127.0.0.1).
> > Escape character is '^]'.
> > +OK <961.958499285@\>
> > user bob
> > +OK
> > pass xxxxxxx
> > -ERR authorization failed
> > Connection closed by foreign host.
> >
> > Yet, using the checkpassword test as indicated in INSTALL for
> checkpassword:
> >
> > root@mercury bob]# /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup host
> /bin/checkpassword pwd
> > +OK <968.958499400@host>
> > user bob
> > +OK
> > pass xxxxxxx
> > /home/bob
> > [root@mercury bob]#
> >
> > In /etc/inetd.conf I have:
> >
> > pop3 stream tcp nowait root /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup
> > qmail-popup \
> > mercury.redsea.co.cr /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d
> > Maildir
>
> You can't split lines in inetd.conf using \ (or anything else).
> Just stick it
> all on one line and take the \ out.
>
> Chris
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Then is it likely that the script under /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd/run
>(as mentioned in the Life with qmail) is also incorrect? Or is it just inetd
>that doesn't process multiple lines?
The script is OK. The shells handle line continuation, but inetd
doesn't.
-Dave
> Michel Carpentier (Thu 18.0500-10:11):
> May 18 09:04:55 istweb inetd[403]: pop-3/tcp server failing (looping),
> service terminated
pls send inetd.conf.
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do D4685B884894C483
>Ok, any constructive tips besides the mud-throwing?
Here's something simple, assuming you don't mind a little patch. In
qmail-smtpd.c, replace the addrallowed function with the following:
int addrallowed()
{
int r;
int i,seenAt = 0;
r = rcpthosts(addr.s,str_len(addr.s));
if (r == -1) die_control();
if (r != 0) {
for (i= 0; i< str_len(addr.s); i++) {
if (addr.s[i] == '%') {
r = 0;
break;
} else if (addr.s[i] == '@') {
if (seenAt) {
r = 0;
break;
} else seenAt = 1;
}
}
}
return r;
}
I haven't tested it extensively, but it should work. It just returns a "not
in my rcpthosts" error message if there's a % or two @s in the "rcpt to"
address.
regards,
Will
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> On 17 May 00, at 4:40, Greg Moeller wrote:
>
> > # cat alias/.qmail-tnet-default
> > | fastforward -d -p /etc/aliases.cdb
> > | forward "$DEFAULT"
>
> This line does it; what it "$DEFAULT" contains
> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"?
>
> Try to do
> |forward "$DEFAULT"@`head -1 /var/qmail/control/locals`
> (where instead of head, you'd fill the machine name in)
>
Just to thank Peter and let everyone know this worked perfectly and we're off
ORBS (and still delivering Email correctly :)
Greg
qweqweqwe
asdasdasdasd
zxczxczxc
qmail has been working on my site for a while. Everything has been
fine except -
when a mail is trigerred by a CGI program, which is using the "sendmail"
replacement provided by qmail, the time stamp on the qmail delivery lines
are 5 hours ahead of actual time, ALTHOUGH the time generated by the CGI
program itself is correct. (see below for an actual example; Note: time
stamps on other mail deliveries are correct).
Any hints?
Zhiliang
------ E x a m p l e ------------------------------- s t a r t ---
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 8 invoked by uid 207); 18 May 2000 13:14:53 -0000
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 3643 invoked by uid 201); 18 May 2000 13:14:53 -0000
Date: 18 May 2000 13:14:53 -0000
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: New Ideas!
... o m i t t e d s o m e t e x t ...
This is a web form originated mail. The submittion was
made from kh420129-ans.ansci.iastate.edu (ip=129.186.213.166)
on Thu May 18 08:14:53 CDT 2000
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I believe qmail headers use GMT, unlike sendmail which seems to use the
local TZ.
I don't how and if it's possible to change this, though.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Zhiliang Hu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 1:09 PM
Subject: time error on qmail
>
> qmail has been working on my site for a while. Everything has been
> fine except -
>
> when a mail is trigerred by a CGI program, which is using the "sendmail"
> replacement provided by qmail, the time stamp on the qmail delivery lines
> are 5 hours ahead of actual time, ALTHOUGH the time generated by the CGI
> program itself is correct. (see below for an actual example; Note: time
> stamps on other mail deliveries are correct).
>
> Any hints?
>
> Zhiliang
>
> ------ E x a m p l e ------------------------------- s t a r t ---
> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Received: (qmail 8 invoked by uid 207); 18 May 2000 13:14:53 -0000
> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Received: (qmail 3643 invoked by uid 201); 18 May 2000 13:14:53 -0000
> Date: 18 May 2000 13:14:53 -0000
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: New Ideas!
>
> ... o m i t t e d s o m e t e x t ...
>
> This is a web form originated mail. The submittion was
> made from kh420129-ans.ansci.iastate.edu (ip=129.186.213.166)
> on Thu May 18 08:14:53 CDT 2000
> ------ E x a m p l e ------------------------------------ e n d ---
>
>
"Martin Gignac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I believe qmail headers use GMT, unlike sendmail which seems to use the
>local TZ.
>
>I don't how and if it's possible to change this, though.
You're right: it uses GMT. One fix is to use "datemail" instead of
"sendmail".
-Dave
qmail ALWAYS uses UTC when recording dates in the mail headers it
generates. That is what the '-0000' means. The difference between UTC
and CDT is '-0500'. The time stamps are correct you are just misreading
them. :)
On Thu, 18 May 2000, Zhiliang Hu wrote:
>
> qmail has been working on my site for a while. Everything has been
> fine except -
>
> when a mail is trigerred by a CGI program, which is using the "sendmail"
> replacement provided by qmail, the time stamp on the qmail delivery lines
> are 5 hours ahead of actual time, ALTHOUGH the time generated by the CGI
> program itself is correct. (see below for an actual example; Note: time
> stamps on other mail deliveries are correct).
>
> Any hints?
>
> Zhiliang
>
> ------ E x a m p l e ------------------------------- s t a r t ---
> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Received: (qmail 8 invoked by uid 207); 18 May 2000 13:14:53 -0000
> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Received: (qmail 3643 invoked by uid 201); 18 May 2000 13:14:53 -0000
> Date: 18 May 2000 13:14:53 -0000
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: New Ideas!
>
> ... o m i t t e d s o m e t e x t ...
>
> This is a web form originated mail. The submittion was
> made from kh420129-ans.ansci.iastate.edu (ip=129.186.213.166)
> on Thu May 18 08:14:53 CDT 2000
> ------ E x a m p l e ------------------------------------ e n d ---
>
>
---------------------------------
Timothy L. Mayo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Senior Systems Administrator
localconnect(sm)
http://www.localconnect.net/
The National Business Network Inc. http://www.nb.net/
One Monroeville Center, Suite 850
Monroeville, PA 15146
(412) 810-8888 Phone
(412) 810-8886 Fax
I follow the instruction , and it still failed.... So I did that via telnet,
and then I saw a warning:-
warning: could not open sqlserver file /var/qmail/control/sqlserver.
My qmail is setup to uses MySQL. What am I suppose to have inside sqlserver
file? Any pointer to documentation or solution is greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Irwan Hadi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Chester Chee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: vpopmail pop3 access
> At 04:31 PM 5/17/00 -0400, Chester Chee wrote:
> >Here is my line for starting pop3d, (basically, I followed the
instruction
> >from Live with Qmail):
> >tcpserver -v -R 0 pop-3 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup mydomain.com
> >/bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir2>&1 |
> >/var/qmail/bin/splogger pop3d &
>
> try this
> http://www.inter7.com/vpopmail/FAQ
> your question has the answer there
>
>
I got it to work..... The problem is I am not suppose to use
/bin/checkpassword.
I am suppose to use vchkpw instead. It stated in the INSTALL in vpopmail. I
missed it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chester Chee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Irwan Hadi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: vpopmail pop3 access
> I follow the instruction , and it still failed.... So I did that via
telnet,
> and then I saw a warning:-
>
> warning: could not open sqlserver file /var/qmail/control/sqlserver.
>
> My qmail is setup to uses MySQL. What am I suppose to have inside
sqlserver
> file? Any pointer to documentation or solution is greatly appreciated.
> Thanks.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Irwan Hadi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Chester Chee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 4:47 PM
> Subject: Re: vpopmail pop3 access
>
>
> > At 04:31 PM 5/17/00 -0400, Chester Chee wrote:
> > >Here is my line for starting pop3d, (basically, I followed the
> instruction
> > >from Live with Qmail):
> > >tcpserver -v -R 0 pop-3 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup mydomain.com
> > >/bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir2>&1 |
> > >/var/qmail/bin/splogger pop3d &
> >
> > try this
> > http://www.inter7.com/vpopmail/FAQ
> > your question has the answer there
> >
> >
>
>
qmail is like a chainsaw: exceedingly fast and powerful and able to
chop off your foot in less than a second.
[My apologies for the bounces I think I just sent: an unexpected
interaction between qmail and fetchmail. Mea culpa.]
-dsr-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thu 18.0500-13:26):
>
> qmail is like a chainsaw: exceedingly fast and powerful and able to
> chop off your foot in less than a second.
one of the most important things to watch in qmail is =permissions=. if
set right, the foot stays in your mouth.
--
clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thu 18.0500-13:26):
> >
> > qmail is like a chainsaw: exceedingly fast and powerful and able to
> > chop off your foot in less than a second.
>
>one of the most important things to watch in qmail is =permissions=. if
>set right, the foot stays in your mouth.
>
qmail? I think that truth applies to *nix in general. 7 out of 10 of
my hair-pulling puzzles have boiled down to =permissions=.
And I'll take that as a compliment to qmail. Here, in Vermont, I
have seen people frame houses with a chainsaw. Real Fast. Efficient
in the hands of an expert, dangerous in the hands of a novice.
Seems to be true for a lot of thing....qmail, Linux, guns, power tools, cars...
--Pete
PS. Not that I am trying to be arrogant....I did perhaps 80-100
re-installs of linux/qmail/apache/etc on my server (because I was
trying to automate it with a script) before I got it right and knew
what I was doing, and I sawed off my root a lot.
> > And I'll take that as a compliment to qmail. Here, in Vermont, I
> > have seen people frame houses with a chainsaw. Real Fast. Efficient
> > in the hands of an expert, dangerous in the hands of a novice.
>
>do you mean they made pieces of wood the right size with a chainsaw? thats
>how i (i'm german) understand the term "people frame houses". what kind of
>houses do they build, and how long does this take and what does it cost?
>do people just move to vermont to live there and get their housing that
>way?
Yes, I mean cutting 2x4's and 2x6's, and plywood. etc, to within a
1/16 (+/- 2mm for metric) with a chainsaw. I have done a bit of it
myself, but I prefer a hand saw for the tight stuff.
People move here for all kinds of reasons....many are leftists or
homosexuals, but many are also survivalists and libertarians....I
don't know how it translates to German, but in colloquial English...
"I'm a Vermonta, I do what I wanta"
Vermont is the only place in North America where you can carry a
loaded, concealed firearm with no permit....it is also the only place
that homosexuals can marry (as of two weeks ago)... it is also the
only place you can get a non-photo drivers' license...
>
> > PS. Not that I am trying to be arrogant....I did perhaps 80-100
> > re-installs of linux/qmail/apache/etc on my server (because I was
> > trying to automate it with a script) before I got it right and knew
> > what I was doing, and I sawed off my root a lot.
>
>hope it's back on, your root.
call me qmail Bobbit...
--Pete
PS. I know this is *way* off topic but I can't resist a flame...
Hi all:
Leaving aside Taylor UUCP and aliases for the moment...
I have a customer with a dialup connection that has a Linux server with
qmail/serialmail, and sends us their outgoing mail following the recipe
in the TOISP file of the serialmail distribution. They have a cron job
that executes maildirsmtp every 30 minutes to send the mail queue, etc.,
etc. The problem is that they often send very big files through mail (I
know, I know...), so the queue gets very big and the following
situation often arises:
1) maildirsmtp gets executed. The server starts sending out the 30 Mb.
or so of messages.
2) After 30 minutes, the queue hasn't been sent completely yet, but
another instance of maildirsmtp is started, and begins sending messages
from the queue again.
3) After a few hours, one can find 10 or 11 instances of maildirsmtp
running at the same time on the dialup line.
My questions are:
1) Could I run setlock with maildirsmtp to prevent this situation? Say:
/usr/local/bin/setlock -nx ~alias/pppdir/seriallock
/usr/local/bin/maildirsmtp ~alias/outmail alias-outmail-
(MY_MAIL_SERVER_IP) `hostname`
I think there's nothing wrong with the above line, but I'd like to
check with somebody else.
2) How does maildirsmtp "decide" which messages of the queue to send?
If I understand serialmail's mechanism correctly, in the situation above
described the second instance of maildirsmtp should start sending again
the same messages than the first one, but from what I've seen it doesn't
do so. Can maildirsmtp "know" which messages of the queue are "locked"
by another instance of the program? The man pages don't say anything
about this.
3) If there are new messages arriving to the queue while maildirsmtp is
working, does it send them in the current batch, or they have to wait
for the next time maildirsmtp is executed?
Paulo Jan.
DDnet.
Paulo Jan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Thu, 18 May 2000:
> 1) maildirsmtp gets executed. The server starts sending out the 30 Mb.
> or so of messages.
> 2) After 30 minutes, the queue hasn't been sent completely yet, but
> another instance of maildirsmtp is started, and begins sending messages
> from the queue again.
When I was using a similar setup, I had this code snippet as part of my
"pppdeliver" script that invoked maildirsmtp:
# Sanity check to avoid two copies running simultaneously
if [ -e $PIDFILE ]; then
# pppdeliver is already running
OTHERPID=`cat $PIDFILE`
logger -t pppdeliver -p mail.notice [$$] Already running at PID $OTHERPID
exit 1
else
echo $$ > $PIDFILE
fi
It's not secure etc. etc. but it worked. :-)
Also the script would of course rm $PIDFILE before exiting.
Anyway, any other sort of locking mechanism should work just as well I
imagine. Sorry, I don't know enough about maildirsmtp to answer your
other questions.
Regards,
Mikko
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Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine.
How do I send email from script with qmail-inject?
Im trying to email my IP address to a location something like this:
#!/bin/sh
qmail-inject [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] $MYIP
> blue (Thu 18.0500-13:59):
> How do I send email from script with qmail-inject?
> #!/bin/sh
echo $MYIP | qmail-inject [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
do D4685B884894C483
gpg recv-key 0x9
echo `gpg list-key 0x9 | cat -tv` | \
gpg encrypt `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` | \
mail -s your-key `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address`
wait
[encrypted] return mail.
no return mail within a week, you in trouble.
no return mail after a month, i in trouble.
please check
done
I am sitting with this problem for about two months. I am a Linux
newbie so I worked through the system over and over. I send this
question to the list a few days ago but it somehow does not manage to
get there.
Situation is like this:
Our ISP has responsibility for our domain. The system is connected to
the ISP by ISDN and PPP. There will be several subdomains. I take the
responsibility for these subdomains. Just now I work with only one
subdomain.
The mailserver is box1.subd1.domain.se. There is a DNS server on the
same computer. I download/upload mail from ISP via uucp on tcp in
regular intervals. That part works great.
Internal mail works OK. Users can mail to the outside world without
any problem.
The problem is downloading mail from the outside world. All the mail
goes to my account as the postmaster. I have tried different
approaches, nothing works. What to do?
By the way, when I start qmail, I get this message:
Starting mail transfer agent: qmailulimit: cannot raise limit: Invalid
argument [1] 916.
916 is PID for qmail-send. I cannot find any information about
qmailulimit.
On the server there is a DNS, named version 8.1.2. The interesting
zone file is as follows:
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
; Zone file for subd1.domain.se
;
; The full zone file
;
subd1.domain.se. IN SOA
box1.subd1.domain.se. user1.subd1.domain.se. (
2 ; serial
8H ; refresh, seconds
2H ; retry, seconds
1W ; expire, seconds
1D) ; minimum, seconds
;
; Name servers
;
subd1.domain.se. IN NS
box1.subd1.domain.se.
;
; Mail exchangers
;
subd1.domain.se. IN MX 10
box1.subd1.domain.se.
;
; Has to do with domain.se -> subd1.domain.se, according to
D.J.Bernstein,
; Frequently Asked Questions: How do I receive mail for another host
name?
;
domain.se. IN MX 0
a.mx.domain.se.
a.mx.domain.se. IN A 192.168.100.66
;
; Addresses for the cannonical names
;
localhost IN A 127.0.0.1
box1.subd1.domain.se. IN A 192.168.100.66
box2.subd1.domain.se. IN A 192.168.100.67
box3.subd1.domain.se. IN A 192.168.100.68
box4.subd1.domain.se. IN A 192.168.100.69
box5.subd1.domain.se. IN A 192.168.100.70
....
....
;
; Mullti-homed hosts (routers)
;
;
; Aliases
;
; mail.subd1.domain.se. IN CNAME box1.subd1.domain.se.
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
I start qmail like this:
#######################################################
ulimit -v 2048
csh -cf '/var/qmail/rc &'
# supervise /var/lock/qmail-smtpd tcpserver -v
-x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u$USERID -g$GROUPID 0 25 \
# rblsmtpd qmail-smtpd 2>&1 | setuser qmaill accustamp | \
# setuser qmaill cyclog -s5000000 -n5
/var/log/qmail/qmail-smtpd &
tcpserver -v -x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u 555 -g 111 0 25 \
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 2>&1 | /var/qmail/bin/splogger
smtpd 3 &
# tcpserver 0 pop3 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup \
# box1.subd1.domain.se \
# /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir &
tcpserver -v -R 0 pop3 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup \
box1.subd1.domain.se \
/bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir 2>&1 | \
/var/qmail/bin/splogger pop3d &
#######################################################
The file /var/qmail/control/locals is like this:
#######################################################
localhost
domain.se
subd1.domain.se
box1.subd1.domain.se
#######################################################
The file /var/qmail/control/defaultdomain is like this:
#######################################################
subd1.domain.se
#######################################################
The file /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts is like this:
#######################################################
localhost
domain.se
subd1.domain.se
box1.subd1.domain.se
#######################################################
The file /var/qmail/control/me is like this:
#######################################################
box1.subd1.domain.se
#######################################################
The file /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains is like this:
#######################################################
:alias-uucp
#######################################################
I'm wondering if there is a way to have a qmail-host receive email for
multiple hosts/domains but keep the destinations seperate. for instance:
box1.mydom.com is aliased to box.mydom.com, and square.mydom.com
and just recently added all machines in myothrdom.ORG
I'd like to have all the current users continue to receive mail at the
mydom.com addresses, without getting messages sent to their user name
@myothrdom.org. and there a few dozen new users that shoud only receive
mail by the new .org address and not the existing .com.
I don't know how/if this is done while all are pointing to the same
box.
--
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"I want to be _sure_ that you in no way annoy, ruffle, tweak, perturb,
piss off, piss on, bugger, etc., any users, developers, or potential
developers of ******, unless they specifically ask you to."
--CGD
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Graphic Rezidew
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 02:22:01PM -0500, Graphic Rezidew wrote:
> I'm wondering if there is a way to have a qmail-host receive email for
> multiple hosts/domains but keep the destinations seperate. for instance:
You need to set up some virtual domains. See the documentation that comes with
qmail, and Dave Sill's "Life with qmail"
(http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html).
Chris
Hi there,
I'm not sure, if this is the right place to ask this, so please
apologize my question if it's not ;)
We just set up a qmail-server authenticating through MySQL on the same
machine. We also have an imapd which is using the same database. Thanks
go to Takeshi and his MySQL-Patches. qmail ist set up with single
UID/GID. Mail for User aa00001 for example is deliverd to
/var/qmail/home/aa/aa00001/mbox. I know Maildir is more reliable an huge
sites, but we had our reasons not to use it.
Users are added to MySQL with a PHP3-web-frontend on some other
computer. So with this, the users homedir could not be created. Is there
any possibility to let qmail create the homedir for user aa00001 if it
does not exist? Or do you propose some other mechanism like ssh, rsh,
rexec or something like that, that would be invoked through the
PHP-script?
TIA
--
Rüdiger Kern Main Media GmbH
Tel: +49 931 / 6001-525 Berner Str. 2
Systemadministrator 97084 Würzburg
> Ruediger Kern (Thu 18.0500-22:43):
> computer. So with this, the users homedir could not be created. Is there
> any possibility to let qmail create the homedir for user aa00001 if it
> does not exist? Or do you propose some other mechanism like ssh, rsh,
> rexec or something like that, that would be invoked through the
> PHP-script?
qmail executes the instructions in ~alias/.qmail-default when no user
matches the given address. but since your system involves other large
components in vital roles you should integrate qmails actions with php and
whatever to keep the system consistent.
--
clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
do D4685B884894C483
gpg recv-key 0x9
echo `gpg list-key 0x9 | cat -tv` | \
gpg encrypt `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` | \
mail -s your-key `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address`
wait
[encrypted] return mail.
no return mail within a week, you in trouble.
no return mail after a month, i in trouble.
please check
done
You could try IMP: http://www.horde.org/imp or TWIG:
http://twig.screwdriver.net. There are a bunch more. I found them all at
Freshmeat in the appindex -> web -> applications directory.
On Tue, 16 May 2000, Chester Chee wrote:
> Ok, let me rephrase my question. Thanks Olivier....
> Does anyone know if there is a webmail package that uses smtp to send mail,
> and imap/disk access for reading mail? Thanks in advance.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Olivier M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Chester Chee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 6:51 PM
> Subject: Re: webmail
>
>
> > On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 06:43:25PM -0400, Chester Chee wrote:
> > > Does anyone know if there is a webmail package that uses smtp instead
> of reading/writing from/to Maildir or mailbox? Thanks in advance.
> >
> > smtp ? I'm afraid it could only be used to _send_ mails.
> > To read them, you have to choose between direct disk access (like omail),
> > pop3 (like cwmail) or imap (like imp).
> >
> > Regards,
> > Olivier
> >
--
http://www.matzelle.net
(ezmlm ML archive is down, and I find no mention of where the list is
located so I cannot subscribe to it or send to it; hence I am asking here)
Hello,
I want to make an ezmlm managed mailinglist moderated (it's an announce
list). It is stated in the ezmlm manual that ezmlm-make -em can be used to
make a list moderated; however, "-e", "-m", "-r" and "-s" (all mentioned in
the manual) are not supported by ezmlm on my system.
Has the procedure for making a list moderated changed? What is the correct
procedure?
Thanks,
--
/ Peter Schuller, InfiDyne Technologies HB
PGP userID: 0x5584BD98 or 'Peter Schuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>'
Key retrival: Send an E-Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://scode.infidyne.com
also sprach peter.schuller:
> (ezmlm ML archive is down, and I find no mention of where the list is
> located so I cannot subscribe to it or send to it; hence I am asking here)
Send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to subscribe.
> I want to make an ezmlm managed mailinglist moderated (it's an announce
> list). It is stated in the ezmlm manual that ezmlm-make -em can be used to
> make a list moderated; however, "-e", "-m", "-r" and "-s" (all mentioned in
> the manual) are not supported by ezmlm on my system.
Are you using the ezmlm-idx patch? A good deal of the docs on www.ezmlm.org
refers to ezmlm using this patch...
Though I'm not sure, moderation might be a part of that patch. Without it,
you won't be able to use the flags you're trying to use.
/pg
--
Peter Green
Gospel Communications Network, SysAdmin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi I am having trouble putting together all the pieces together to make a
qmail based email server.
I understand how to put together a qmail server under linux.
what I do not know is when I have the MX record changed at My ISP (what
ever the MX record is)
How then do I get the "Mail down to my box?" I have a permanent IP address
on a DSL.
Do I set up for Mailbox or Mbox format? all my users will be using one of
the following remotely
Eudora, Outlook, or Netscape.
Finally How do I make it all go back to the Internet?
If you could tell me or point me to some How to's or applications I would
appreciate it.
also sprach danger:
> Hi I am having trouble putting together all the pieces together to make a
> qmail based email server.
> I understand how to put together a qmail server under linux.
>
> what I do not know is when I have the MX record changed at My ISP (what
> ever the MX record is)
> How then do I get the "Mail down to my box?" I have a permanent IP address
> on a DSL.
It depends. If you are wanting to use your full machine's address in your
e-mail address (e.g., [EMAIL PROTECTED]) just ask bway.net to set
up the MX record for that host name to point to your static IP address.
If you want to keep your address more succinct (e.g., [EMAIL PROTECTED]) you
have a couple of options. Either set up a .forward file (or have bway.net
set it up) to send all mail addressed to you to your static IP address. Or,
more commonly (I think), keep it in your mailbox at bway.net and use
something like fetchmail to retrieve it via POP3 or IMAP and feed it to your
local qmail system.
> Do I set up for Mailbox or Mbox format? all my users will be using one of
> the following remotely
> Eudora, Outlook, or Netscape.
Purely up to you. The format doesn't matter if you're just giving people
POP3 or IMAP access to their e-mail. All you need is a POP3/IMAP server that
supports your particular format.
> Finally How do I make it all go back to the Internet?
RTFM. What have you tried?
> If you could tell me or point me to some How to's or applications I would
> appreciate it.
http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html
/pg
--
Peter Green
Gospel Communications Network, SysAdmin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Peter Green:
> > what I do not know is when I have the MX record changed at My ISP (what
> > ever the MX record is)
> > How then do I get the "Mail down to my box?" I have a permanent IP address
> > on a DSL.
> It depends. If you are wanting to use your full machine's address in your
> e-mail address (e.g., [EMAIL PROTECTED]) just ask bway.net to set
> up the MX record for that host name to point to your static IP address.
but mister danger wants to serve port 25 himself. if he doesn't want his
isp's service regarding email, he might consider setting up virtual domains
in qmail/control/virtualdomains. together with the other options of
rewriting (locals, recipientdomains) any nested domain structure can be
build with email addresses always pointing to the main domain.
the machine listening on the smtp port and any other services offered
should go thru some kind of firewall, and be it only rblsmtpd for
spam-control (see also control/baddomains). if later use as a web- or ftp-
server can't be ruled out, only one machine should be visible to the
outside: the gateway. with this architecture in mind it's gonna be easy
to implement full fledged ip fire walling, terminal- and authentication-
servers and so on. it will also go easy on the wallet, since only one
static ip-address will be neccessary.
ok, you want to get your mail directly to your machine, mr. danger? so it
will have to run 24/7? maybe you should consider bying and installing a
second machine for mirroring essential structures and services in case the
main-server goes down. you will have to consider denial of service
attacks, even if qmail is installed correctly, yuo provide only mail-
accounts and security is handled by rblsmtpd and tcpserver. you should not
go any further than this, because you will have to get this beast up and
running with little expertise.
there are advantages in outsourcing mail-services, you know.
> > Do I set up for Mailbox or Mbox format? all my users will be using one of
> > the following remotely
> > Eudora, Outlook, or Netscape.
>
> Purely up to you. The format doesn't matter if you're just giving people
> POP3 or IMAP access to their e-mail. All you need is a POP3/IMAP server that
> supports your particular format.
i guess a server should use maildir. if something goes wrong, you would
not want to loose an entire mailbox.
> > Finally How do I make it all go back to the Internet?
well you let qmail-inject handle smtp transactions directly with the
target- machine. you might have to state the meginning of the route in
control/smtproute to let your isp handle the physics, but internet connects
endpoints directly from protocol level three up.
--
clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
do D4685B884894C483
gpg recv-key 0x9
echo `gpg list-key 0x9 | cat -tv` | \
gpg encrypt `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` | \
mail -s your-key `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address`
wait
[encrypted] return mail.
no return mail within a week, you in trouble.
no return mail after a month, i in trouble.
please check
done
Hi all,
Does anyone know of any potential problems having a web based email like oMail that
uses direct disk access conflicting with and IMAP server running against the same user
Maildir?
Also, how would the status of read messages be tracked between oMail and and IMAP
client?
Thanks for any experience/info you could provide. I am evaluating using oMail in a
production environment.
Adam Roberts
On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 03:06:53PM -0700, Adam Roberts wrote:
> Does anyone know of any potential problems having a web based email like oMail that
>uses direct disk access
> conflicting with and IMAP server running against the same user Maildir?
If you keep your messages in your inbox, and don't move them to other folders (save,
deleted, sent),
there shouldn't be any problem.
The file tree used by omail-webmail currently looks like that :
./mail2/cur
./mail2/new
./mail2/tmp
./mail2/config
./mail2/trash
./mail2/sent
./mail2/saved
the first 3 directories are the standard ones, and the rest is used by the programm.
> Thanks for any experience/info you could provide. I am evaluating using oMail in a
>production environment.
sounds interesting :) may I ask you which kind of add-on you are using, if any ?
(vmailmgr, vpopmail)
Regards,
Olivier Mueller
Dave Sill wrote:
<snip>
>
> Brad Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >However, qmail does suffer from the same issue as BSD traditionally
> >has, which is that everyone involved is too damned smart, so they
> >write in terse, dense and frighteningly useful language and get
> >annoyed when people have difficulty parsing the information.
>
<snip>
I strongly believe in being nice to users - I think the day of the
"Geek as God" is almost over.
But hey, we're building a *mail server* here! I don't see this as
trivial matter, and so some level of difficulty can be expected and
R'ingTFM is not asking too much.
I sent an email to Dave awhile back, saying "we installed qmail,
vpopmail, sqwebmail, many virtual domains, moved a few over from
sendmail (phew) etc... and didn't have to post to list once. Did we do
something wrong?"
Besides, being called "terse, dense and frighteningly useful...and
annoyed" is the nicest compliment I've received in a loooong time... :)
Tom/Kicking dead horse....
"My response to such people ? "If you haven't got time to RTFM, you
haven't got time to whine on Usenet about it".
Unknown, the Scary Devil Monastery
.
--
Thomas J. ONeil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Texas American Communications Network, Inc.
"Access, not attitude"
Hello,
How did qmail to determine whether a certain
mail should be local or be delivered remotely?
As i am testing, i fake a hostname my.test.com for
my host and set "locals" and "me" to "my.test.com".
On the other hand, in /etc/hosts, i map my.test.com
to the true ip my host have. Then the problem comes.
When delivering [EMAIL PROTECTED], qmail thinks it should
be delivered remotely, not locally, as i think.
Can i tell qmail to deliver it locally?
-------
Best regards
Song mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, May 19, 2000 at 09:22:01AM +0800, Jianping Song wrote:
> How did qmail to determine whether a certain
> mail should be local or be delivered remotely?
If the domain of the addressee is in control/locals or control/virtualdomains,
then it delivers the mail locally. Otherwise, it's delivered remotely.
> As i am testing, i fake a hostname my.test.com for
> my host and set "locals" and "me" to "my.test.com".
> On the other hand, in /etc/hosts, i map my.test.com
> to the true ip my host have. Then the problem comes.
> When delivering [EMAIL PROTECTED], qmail thinks it should
> be delivered remotely, not locally, as i think.
qmail doesn't give a rat's behind what's in /etc/hosts; it uses only DNS.
And it doesn't use DNS to make the local/remote decision.
Chris
I have successfully installed and test qmail with maildir but:
qmail-start is KILLING my system. I am using supervise and
tcpserver. I sometimes have upto 32 qmail processes and currently I
have no users on the system. I am running redhat 6.2. All my qmail
daemons are up but as stated I have sometimes 10 qmail-start
./Maildir/ splogger running. My messages file states:
958703323.6511621 alert: cannot start: qmail-send is already running
This messages is repeatedly being written to /var/log/messages.
My /var/qmail/rc script is the followin:
#!/bin/sh
exec env - $PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH"\
qmail-start ./Maildir/ splogger qmail \
tcpserver 0 110 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup mail.foo.com \
/bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir &
Can anyone help me please
Keven Jones
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
________________________________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 08:15:02PM -0700, Keven Jones wrote:
> I have successfully installed and test qmail with maildir but:
>
> qmail-start is KILLING my system. I am using supervise and
> tcpserver. I sometimes have upto 32 qmail processes and currently I
> have no users on the system. I am running redhat 6.2. All my qmail
> daemons are up but as stated I have sometimes 10 qmail-start
> ./Maildir/ splogger running. My messages file states:
> 958703323.6511621 alert: cannot start: qmail-send is already running
> This messages is repeatedly being written to /var/log/messages.
>
> My /var/qmail/rc script is the followin:
> #!/bin/sh
>
> exec env - $PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH"\
> qmail-start ./Maildir/ splogger qmail \
> tcpserver 0 110 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup mail.foo.com \
> /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir &
If you're running this under supervise, you should start your POP service and
qmail-start from separate scripts. Also, you should *not* put whatever you're
running from supervise in the background, or supervise will start it repeatedly
(which is what you're seeing happen).
So your qmail-start script might look like this:
#!/bin/sh
exec env - $PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH"\
qmail-start ./Maildir/ splogger qmail
Note that there's no & at the end. You should start your POP and SMTP services
from separate scripts.
Since you've installed daemontools, you might consider using multilog instead
of splogger/syslogd, and you might want to start all your supervised processes
with svscan. See http://cr.yp.to/daemontools.html.
Chris
Keven Jones writes:
> My /var/qmail/rc script is the following:
> #!/bin/sh
>
> exec env - $PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH"\
> qmail-start ./Maildir/ splogger qmail \
> tcpserver 0 110 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup mail.foo.com \
> /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir &
^
^
^
^
^
There's your problem right there. supervise runs /service/qmail/run,
which execs /var/qmail/rc, which runs qmail-start in the background.
The shell (which ran it in the background) exits, and supervise runs
/service/qmail/run again. And again and again.
--
-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.com
Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | "Ask not what your country
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | can force other people to
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | do for you..." -Perry M.
I'm relatively new to qmail so please elaborate on any answers ;-)
I'm trying to run a perl script from .qmail file to filter out some
words before sending a message further. In the .qmail file I use
preline:
|preline /var/qmail/alias/forums.ezmlm/filter.pl
in the filter.pl file I tried reading the STDIN in two ways:
$text = <STDIN>;
while (<STDIN>)
then I use regex on the variable. The scripts exits either with 0 (ok)
or 100 (drop delivery).
I always get the following error: deferral:
ld.so.1:_/usr/bin/perl:_fatal:_/usr/lib/libc.so.1:_mmap_failed:
_Not_enough_space/preline:_fatal:_child_crashed/
The test message is really small (two lines of text), so I don't
understand why I get this error.
Any help appreciated.
Lidia
ps
here is the script (both versions):
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
$text = <STDIN>;
if ($text =~ /ILOVEYOU/)
{
#print "matched ILOVEYOU, exit 100\n";
exit 100;
}
exit 0;
#$count=0;
#while (<STDIN>)
#{
# if ($_ =~ /ILOVEYOU/)
# {
# #print "matched ILOVEYOU, exit 100\n";
# exit 100;
# }
# $count++;
#}
# print "count: $count\n";
# print "done, not matched, exit 0\n";
#exit 0;
On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 08:48:21PM -0700, Lidia Marchioni wrote:
> |preline /var/qmail/alias/forums.ezmlm/filter.pl
[...]
> I always get the following error: deferral:
> ld.so.1:_/usr/bin/perl:_fatal:_/usr/lib/libc.so.1:_mmap_failed:
> _Not_enough_space/preline:_fatal:_child_crashed/
The system is running out of memory during the startup of perl.
Check your administrative limits, perhaps using this .qmail:
|ulimit -aH ; ulimit -a
|preline /var/qmail/alias/forums.ezmlm/filter.pl
and adjust them in your system startup scripts.
You may also use top (or free, if your system knows that
command) to see how much memory is free. But note that the
output of top is misleading at times and consult your system
administrator on how to interpret these values if in doubt,
and note that the problem is most likely not free memory but
some adminstrative limit in your system startup scripts
or in the shell session used to start qmail.
Regards, Uwe
Lidia Marchioni writes:
> I always get the following error: deferral:
> ld.so.1:_/usr/bin/perl:_fatal:_/usr/lib/libc.so.1:_mmap_failed:
> _Not_enough_space/preline:_fatal:_child_crashed/
Hehe. How are you starting up qmail? From a /service/qmail/run file?
With a call to "softlimit -m 2000000"?
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-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.com
Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | "Ask not what your country
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | can force other people to
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | do for you..." -Perry M.
Hi,
Just a quick question:
When I run qmail-qstat on my FreeBSD system, I'll get something like this:
messages in queue: 2
messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 0
But when I run qmail-qread immediately after, I get something along the
lines of:
18 May 2000 14:58:17 GMT #150795 4997 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
remote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've tried this a couple of times when the queue is quiet and I always seem
to get this 'discreptancy'. Where is the second message qmail-qstat refers
to? Is this normal for qmail? Am I simply missing something here? Have I
missed something in the FAQ?
Thanks,
-Martin
if I recieved something like the following log :-
2000-05-19 12:37:50.320782500 delivery 22:
deferrale./Remote_host_said:_451_qq_system_error_(#4.3.0)/
do i have to apply some other patches ?
Ismal Hisham Mohd Darus
Asst. Manager, System Support
John Hancock Life Insurance (Malaysia) Berhad
Ismal Hisham Darus writes:
> if I recieved something like the following log :-
>
> 2000-05-19 12:37:50.320782500 delivery 22:
> deferrale./Remote_host_said:_451_qq_system_error_(#4.3.0)/
>
> do i have to apply some other patches ?
No. That is a remote host. It could have said any number of other
things -- it doesn't matter, because it's not coming from your machine.
--
-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.com
Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | "Ask not what your country
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | can force other people to
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | do for you..." -Perry M.
Clemens wrote:
:please send us the scripts in question and the setup you got working. at
:the time beeing i can't tell you anything for final. and another thing:
:what do you mean by "roaming users"?
By "roaming users" I mean users that don't have a static ip.. like users
using FreeInet or NetZero to connect to the internet. I need to be able
to allow them to relay messages, and receive.
Here is my qmail script that is located in /etc/rc.d/inet.d
_____________________________________________________________
#!/bin/sh
PATH=/var/qmail/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin
export PATH
case "$1" in
start)
echo -n "Starting qmail: svscan"
cd /var/qmail/supervise
env - PATH="$PATH" svscan &
echo $! > /var/run/svscan.pid
echo "."
;;
stop)
echo -n "Stopping qmail: svscan"
kill `cat /var/run/svscan.pid`
echo -n " qmail"
svc -dx /var/qmail/supervise/*
echo -n " logging"
svc -dx /var/qmail/supervise/*/log
echo "."
;;
stat)
cd /var/qmail/supervise
svstat * */log
;;
doqueue|alrm)
echo "Sending ALRM signal to qmail-send."
svc -a /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send
;;
queue)
qmail-qstat
qmail-qread
;;
reload|hup)
echo "Sending HUP signal to qmail-send."
svc -h /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send
;;
pause)
echo "Pausing qmail-send"
svc -p /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send
echo "Pausing qmail-smtpd"
svc -p /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd
;;
cont)
echo "Continuing qmail-send"
svc -c /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send
echo "Continuing qmail-smtpd"
svc -c /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd
;;
restart)
echo "Restarting qmail:"
echo "* Stopping qmail-smtpd."
svc -d /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd
echo "* Sending qmail-send SIGTERM and restarting."
svc -t /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send
echo "* Restarting qmail-smtpd."
svc -u /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd
;;
cdb)
tcprules /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb /etc/tcp.smtp.tmp < /etc/tcp.smtp
chmod 644 /etc/tcp.smtp*
echo "Reloaded /etc/tcp.smtp."
;;
help)
cat <<HELP
stop -- stops mail service (smtp connections refused, nothing goes out)
start -- starts mail service (smtp connection accepted, mail can go out)
pause -- temporarily stops mail service (connections accepted, nothing
leaves)
cont -- continues paused mail service
stat -- displays status of mail service
cdb -- rebuild the tcpserver cdb file for smtp
restart -- stops and restarts smtp, sends qmail-send a TERM & restarts it
doqueue -- sends qmail-send ALRM, scheduling queued messages for delivery
reload -- sends qmail-send HUP, rereading locals and virtualdomains
queue -- shows status of queue
alrm -- same as doqueue
hup -- same as reload
HELP
;;
*)
echo "Usage: $0
{start|stop|restart|doqueue|reload|stat|pause|cont|cdb|queue|help}"
exit 1
;;
esac
exit 0
_________________________________________________________________
Should I delete this script and use a smaller one for roaming users?
Maybe I have "roaming users" as the wrong term.
James
Hi,
I want to know if there is a file of configuratione where i can change the
byte of my qmail log file.
In my system I have this file:
-rwxr--r-- 1 qmaill nofiles 98112 May 17 14:14
@4000000039228d473064447c.s
-rwxr--r-- 1 qmaill nofiles 98017 May 17 18:26
@400000003922c84b292e5db4.s
-rwxr--r-- 1 qmaill nofiles 98021 May 17 21:35
@400000003922f499087225c4.s
-rwxr--r-- 1 qmaill nofiles 98064 May 18 01:49
@4000000039232ff80f3bbdfc.s
-rwxr--r-- 1 qmaill nofiles 98073 May 18 09:36
@4000000039239d9b15abd03c.s
-rwxr--r-- 1 qmaill nofiles 98086 May 18 14:34
@400000003923e3422104df8c.s
-rwxr--r-- 1 qmaill nofiles 98069 May 18 19:14
@40000000392424fd1e9bde6c.s
-rwxr--r-- 1 qmaill nofiles 98115 May 18 22:35
@400000003924541c05ca3b2c.s
-rwxr--r-- 1 qmaill nofiles 98021 May 19 03:46
@4000000039249d0411c33bcc.s
all files are ~ 98000 byte can I change this??
Thanks
--
-
Marco Benetton
System Engineer
CIO-Chief Information Officer
ProTEC S.n.c.
Padova, ITALY
Via Croce Rossa, 56/9
I-35129 Padova Italy
++39 049 8079284
++39 049 8085436 fax
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> all files are ~ 98000 byte can I change this??
See the multilog invocation (probably in log/run directory); size is
controlled by "s" parameter, default 100000.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.antek.cz
PGP key ID: 0x3BA9BC3F
-- Don't you know there ain't no devil there's just God when he's drunk.
[Tom Waits]
> Marco Benetton:
> Hi,
> I want to know if there is a file of configuratione where i can change the
> byte of my qmail log file.
rtfm
multilog is called like this:
multilog <timestamp> s<size> n<number> <logdir>
where
<timestamp> t | nothing for timestamped logfiles
<size> 4096.. maximum size of one logfile, defaults to 10000
<number> 2.. number of logfiles kept, defaulys to 10
> System Engineer
> CIO-Chief Information Officer
??? should you not know this if manuals are supplied?
--
clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Version 1.03 of qmail-smtpd is currently configured to reject incoming mail
with bare linefeeds. If a bare linefeed is received, qmail-smtpd returns
an error 451 and a reference to http://pobox.com/~djb/docs/smtplf.html
which explains the error by reference to an IETF draft document known as
822bis.
The current version of this draft, which has apparently superceded the
draft referenced, can be found at
<http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-drums-msg-fmt-08.txt> and
contains the following:
>4. Obsolete Syntax
>
>Earlier versions of this standard allowed for different (usually more
>liberal) syntax than is allowed in this version. Also, there have been
>syntactic elements used in messages on the Internet whose interpretation
>have never been documented. Though some of these syntactic forms MUST
>NOT be generated according to the grammar in section 3, they MUST be
>accepted and parsed by a conformant receiver. This section documents
>many of these syntactic elements. Taking the grammar in section 3 and
>adding the definitions presented in this section will result in the
>grammar to use for interpretation of messages.
A bare line feed is considered 'obsolete syntax' as defined subsequently in
section 4.1, 'Miscellaneous obsolete tokens'. Please note from the above
that while compliance with this draft requires that originating MTAs or
MUAs must NOT generate such syntax, it is required of conformant receivers
that such syntax be accepted and properly parsed.
It is therefore apparently appropriate, and in fact required by the draft,
that message processing by the existing straynewline() function in
qmail-smtpd.c be bypassed or eliminated in some fashion so that such
messages can be received.
I also note that editorship of the draft is credited to P. Resnick of
Qualcomm. Qualcomm's MUA product, Eudora, has been guilty of errors of
this sort in the past. It's also worth noting that this draft expires in a
little over 2 months.
Comments will be appreciated.
Lindsay Haisley (______)
FMP Computer Services (oo) "The bull
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /------\/ stops here!"
Austin, Texas, USA / | ||
512-259-1190 * ||---|| * * * * * *
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