> > Nope, thats the Return-Path: field
> > The From: field is [EMAIL PROTECTED] , and with that in
badmailfrom
> > gives:
>
> > 220 hellriser.bordewich.net ESMTP
> > helo hell2000
> > 250 hellriser.bordewich.net
> > mail from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 250 ok
> > rcpt to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 553 sorry, your envelope sender is in my badmailfrom list (#5.7.1)
>
> Did you construct this smtp conversation or is it an actual transcript?
-snip-

Yes, I did construct that smtp conversation based on my first opinion. When
I realized that I was wrong ( seconds after I sent the mail), I followed up
with a new mail, where I apologized and telling that you where right (and I
was wrong).

-snip-
> YES, I was wrong and YOU where right, and you, you'r always right, right
;-)
>
> sorry about that.
-snip-

Thanks for your information and feedback clearing up things.

regards
--
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IDG New Media     Einar Bordewich
Technical Manager  Phone: +47 2336 1420
E-Mail:           [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Qmail-mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 11:55 PM
Subject: Re: The famous [EMAIL PROTECTED]


> On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 08:50:16PM +0200, Einar Bordewich wrote:
>
> > > > famous [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?
> > >
> > > > BTW: It's in my badmailfrom now...
> > >
> > > Will that help? I though the Mail From: was <> with these bounces?
> > >
> > > You might want to consider a :deny entry in your tcpserver rules.
> > -snip-
> >
> > Nope, thats the Return-Path: field
> > The From: field is [EMAIL PROTECTED] , and with that in
badmailfrom
> > gives:
>
> > 220 hellriser.bordewich.net ESMTP
> > helo hell2000
> > 250 hellriser.bordewich.net
> > mail from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 250 ok
> > rcpt to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 553 sorry, your envelope sender is in my badmailfrom list (#5.7.1)
>
> Did you construct this smtp conversation or is it an actual transcript?
>
> As I correctly surmised, the offending mail server is indeed sending
> Mail From: <> and results in a Return-Path: <> which means that you cannot
> put anything useful into badmailfrom to stop it.
>
> If you are seeing something different then I suspect that you have some
> intervening server doing something. And that something is as much an
> offender as ns.albertsons.com if it replaces an empty envelope sender
> with <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
>
>
> Regards.
>
> >
> > or Chris K. might have a better solution. The result is the same with a
5xx
> > return code.
> > 167.234.1.10:allow,RBLSMTPD="-Good mailers don't bounce to header
senders"
> >
> >
> > Return-Path: <>
> > Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Received: (qmail 30504 invoked by uid 505); 28 Jul 2000 17:09:46 -0000
> > Received: from  by hellriser with scan4virus-0.53 (iscan:
> > v3.1/v5.170-0617/748/20225. uvscan: v4.0.70/v4088. sweep: 1.8/3.33 Beta.
> > hbedv: 6.2.0.3. fsecure: 4.08/2030/2000-07-27/2000-07-28/2000-06-27. .
> > Clean. Processed in 3.069411 secs); 28/07/2000 19:09:42
> > X-Scan4Virus-Mail-From:  via hellriser
> > X-Scan4Virus-Rcpt-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > X-Scan4Virus: 0.53 (No viruses found. Processed in 3.071213 secs)
> > Received: from unknown (HELO ns.albertsons.com) (167.234.1.10)
> >   by hellriser.bordewich.net with SMTP; 28 Jul 2000 17:09:42 -0000
> > Received: from S7352c.7000.albertsons.com (S7352c.7000.albertsons.com
> > [167.234.12.204]) by ns.albertsons.com (AIX4.3/UCB 8.8.8/8.8.8) with
ESMTP
> > id KAA02136 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:50:56 -0600
> > Received: from dubs0001.amstr.com (dubs0001.albertsons.com
[162.120.128.9])
> >  by S7352c.7000.albertsons.com (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id
KAA65308
> >  for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:49:06 -0600
> > X-Internal-ID: 3981272900001838
> > Received: from amstr.com (162.120.128.9) by dubs0001.amstr.com (NPlex
> > 2.0.119) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:49:08 -0700
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 28 Jul 2000 09:49:08 -0700
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > --
> > --------------------------------------------
> > IDG New Media     Einar Bordewich
> > Technical Manager  Phone: +47 2336 1420
> > E-Mail:           [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > --------------------------------------------
> >
> >
>

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