qmail Digest 2 Sep 2000 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 1111
Topics (messages 47770 through 47846):
Re: Sending an email to all users of my system
47770 by: Vince Vielhaber
Re: Alias Support Question
47771 by: Dave Sill
47791 by: tom.sarratt.jr
47794 by: Chris Garrigues
47796 by: Dave Sill
47797 by: tom.sarratt.jr
47824 by: tom.sarratt.jr
47844 by: Timothy Legant
Re: qmail-lspawn looks for local user?
47772 by: Dave Sill
47778 by: Daniel Augusto Fernandes
47779 by: Dave Sill
47789 by: Daniel Augusto Fernandes
47812 by: Daniel Augusto Fernandes
47816 by: Daniel Augusto Fernandes
47820 by: Dave Sill
47830 by: Daniel Augusto Fernandes
47833 by: Dave Sill
Re: Virtual Domains
47773 by: Wilson, Frank
47777 by: Dave Sill
47787 by: Nick Davies
47788 by: Vince Vielhaber
47809 by: Dale Miracle
47810 by: Dale Miracle
47811 by: Aaron Dougherty
Re: qmail-vpopmail question
47774 by: Wilson, Frank
47806 by: Dale Miracle
Re: user getting mailing list
47775 by: Dave Sill
Re: Telnet 110 - ter
47776 by: Marco
Re: Requesting the services of Hercule Poirrot
47780 by: Dave Kitabjian
47782 by: Dave Sill
47785 by: Dave Kitabjian
SOLVED: so much qmail-smtpd activity, so little qmail-send activity...
47781 by: Dave Kitabjian
47783 by: Dave Sill
Qmail's queue speed
47784 by: Steven Rice
47786 by: James Raftery
Re: problem!
47790 by: Ben Beuchler
user getting mailing list -bis-
47792 by: Petre Rodan
47798 by: Charles Cazabon
47801 by: Dave Sill
47817 by: Jonathan McDowell
47823 by: Dave Sill
Start Qmail automatically
47793 by: tigre21.gamma.qnet.com.pe
Re: clustered qmail solution
47795 by: Bill Carlson
47799 by: Charles Cazabon
47800 by: Dave Sill
Bounce suppression on .qmail lists
47802 by: Angel, Christopher J
47805 by: Petr Novotny
47815 by: Matthew Patterson
47821 by: Matthew Patterson
spam relay follow-up
47803 by: Michael T. Babcock
Re: remove messages from queue
47804 by: Daniel Augusto Fernandes
47822 by: Jon Rust
Re: can not send email, but can receive email
47807 by: Dale Miracle
Help please with a simple problem open-smtp code
47808 by: Rob Havens
stripping attachments
47813 by: Matthew Patterson
47825 by: Matthew Patterson
47827 by: Dave Sill
47828 by: Matthew Patterson
Re: Sender domain verification ...
47814 by: Keith Warno \(.HaggleWare.com\)
47818 by: Chin Fang
Re: few q's for newbie
47819 by: Matthew Patterson
Confusion about bouncesaying
47826 by: David Dyer-Bennet
47829 by: Charles Cazabon
47831 by: David Dyer-Bennet
qmail-lint Re: Alias and Dot
47832 by: Russell Nelson
rcpthosts prob
47834 by: Z
47835 by: Ronny Haryanto
47836 by: Ben Beuchler
47837 by: Z
47841 by: Stephen Bosch
Queueing
47838 by: Steven Rice
47839 by: markd.bushwire.net
outgoing mail masquerading and /bin/mail
47840 by: Stephen Bosch
Re: AUTH=LOGIN documentation, anyone?
47842 by: Kris Kelley
47845 by: Erwin Hoffmann
Re: Qmail 1.03
47843 by: Andy Bradford
Maildrop examples
47846 by: Col Wilson
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Roberto Samarone Araújo (RSA) wrote:
> I would like to know how can I create an email , so when
> I send a message using this email it will send a copy of it to all users in
> my email system including virtual emails but , if an user try to make a
> reply of this email , it only will send a email to the email that I use to
> send to all user and not to all users in my server . I don't want to create
> a moderated mailing list to do it .
Here's a script I use but I don't remember where it came from so if
anyone on the list recognizes it as theirs, speak up!
#!/bin/sh
# Build list of users from /etc/passwd starting with
# Line 18 so we don't send mail to non-users.
#
# Adjust below if statement to match your system.
#
(
cat /etc/passwd | awk '
BEGIN{
FS=":"
cnt=1
}
{
if(cnt < 18){ cnt++ ; next }
printf "[EMAIL PROTECTED]\n",$1
cnt++
}'
) | grep -v qmail | grep -v alias | grep -v orders | grep -v ftp | grep -v
test
| grep -v spop3d > /tmp/mail_list
#
# You may need to use grep -v statement in for
# loop below if you have added automated users
# ie: postgres, etc.. to filter out.
#
# Now to email out to the users.
for user in `cat /tmp/mail_list`
do
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject ${user} < MailMessage
done
rm -f /tmp/mail_list
# End script
To use it, you can put it in your home dir (that's what I do) and create
a file called MailMessage. At the top of the file put a To:, From:, and
a Subject: line, then a blank line, then your message. Edit the above
script to put your domain in in place of YOURDOMAIN.HERE. Run the script.
You may also want to edit the list of greps near the top to match your
system. I noticed yesterday that I need to add dnscache and tinydns to
the list. Also the (cnt < 18) change the 18 to the line number of your
first user in /etc/passwd.
Vince.
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I added the following to the .qmail-postmaster file in the alias directory:
>
>john.doe.jr@<company>.<org>
>
>I still receive the mailer-daemon message.
>
>What other data can I provide you to unscramble this mystery?
Show me the actual contents of ~alias/.qmail-postmaster and
control/virtualdomains, and a snippet from the qmail-send logs during
a failed delivery to postmaster.
-Dave
Dave,
Thank you for your patience and support.
Here is the data you requested:
1) Actual contents of the ~alias/.qmail-postmaster file:
One Line:
&tom:sarratt:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rights to the .qmail-postmaster file:
access params: 0664
owner: alias
group: qmail
2) Contents of control/virtualdomains:
One Line:
missionprinting.org:missionprinting-org
Rights to virtualdomains file:
access params: 0644
owner: root
group: root
3) Snippet from the QMAIL-Send Log showing the failure:
* I am unable to find the logfile, if it is being written, that is holding
send information.
4) Partial listing of the users/assign file:
=missionprinting-org-tom.sarratt.jr:pop3ctrl:508:503:/popboxes/mprnt/sarrt2:
::
Rights to the assign CDB file:
access params: 0644
owner: root
group: root
***
Please let me know if you need more information.
Thank you.
Regards,
Tom Sarratt
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Sill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 7:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Alias Support Question
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I added the following to the .qmail-postmaster file in the alias directory:
>
>john.doe.jr@<company>.<org>
>
>I still receive the mailer-daemon message.
>
>What other data can I provide you to unscramble this mystery?
Show me the actual contents of ~alias/.qmail-postmaster and
control/virtualdomains, and a snippet from the qmail-send logs during
a failed delivery to postmaster.
-Dave
> From: "tom.sarratt.jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 11:04:10 -0500
>
> 1) Actual contents of the ~alias/.qmail-postmaster file:
>
> One Line:
>
>
> &tom:sarratt:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm fairly sure that is a place where you do *not* want to substitute ':' for
'.'.
Chris
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>1) Actual contents of the ~alias/.qmail-postmaster file:
>
>&tom:sarratt:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>2) Contents of control/virtualdomains:
>
>missionprinting.org:missionprinting-org
>
>3) Snippet from the QMAIL-Send Log showing the failure:
>
>* I am unable to find the logfile, if it is being written, that is holding
>send information.
How did you install qmail? (tm) What's in /var/qmail/rc?
>4) Partial listing of the users/assign file:
>
>=missionprinting-org-tom.sarratt.jr:pop3ctrl:508:503:/popboxes/mprnt/sarrt2:
>::
OK, so a message comes in for postmaster@whatever and is presumably
handed off to qmail-local, user alias, where it's redirected to
tom:sarratt:[EMAIL PROTECTED] qmail-send sees that
missionprinting.org is a virtual domain, so it's directed to
missionprinting-org-tom:sarratt:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
qmail-lspawn looks at the mailbox name,
"missionprinting-org-tom:sarratt:jr". It doesn't find it in
users/assign (because colons aren't periods), and it can't be a valid
username, so the delivery fails with "no such mailbox".
Change the .qmail-postmaster file to:
&[EMAIL PROTECTED]
and it ought to work.
Apparently you were confused about the replacement of .'s with :'s in
extension addresses by qmail-local. That's not an issue here since
qmail-local will never see an address with an extension, with or
without .'s, in this case.
-Dave
Chris,
Previously, the file had been configured with the following line:
tom:sarratt:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
It is currently:
&tom:sarratt:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
based on a suggestion from another admin.
At this time, none of the suggestions have worked.
Your recommendations will be appreciated. Thank you.
Regards,
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Garrigues [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 11:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Alias Support Question
> From: "tom.sarratt.jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 11:04:10 -0500
>
> 1) Actual contents of the ~alias/.qmail-postmaster file:
>
> One Line:
>
>
> &tom:sarratt:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm fairly sure that is a place where you do *not* want to substitute ':'
for
'.'.
Chris
--
Chris Garrigues http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/
virCIO http://www.virCIO.Com
4314 Avenue C
Austin, TX 78751-3709 +1 512 374 0500
My email address is an experiment in SPAM elimination. For an
explanation of what we're doing, see http://www.DeepEddy.Com/tms.html
Nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft,
but they could get fired for relying on Microsoft.
Dave,
Thank you for the suggestion, however, it still does not work.
Per your instructions, the ~alias/.qmail-postmaster file now contains:
&[EMAIL PROTECTED]
After making the alteration:
I went to another computer, started my EMAIL client (MS Outlook 2000)
logging in as [EMAIL PROTECTED], and SMTP's a test message
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I promptly received the failure message.
QUESTION
Am I supposed to cycle QMAIL (HUP) when I make an alteration like this?
To answer your questions:
How did you install qmail?
I contacted http://cr.yp.to/qmail.html and downloaded the file
qmail-1.03.tar.gz. I unpacked it into /usr/local/src/qmail-1.03. I then
followed the instructions outlined in the INSTALL document, omitting the
INSTALL.alias doc as it was confusing. I completed the steps, all the way
to step 8, and then executed the instructions found at:
http://www.tibus.net/pgregg/projects/qmail/single-uid-howto.html. After
completing these instructions, I then proceeded back to the INSTALL.alias
doc, and when it failed, I started researching the problem on the FAQ's,
docs, mans, and the EMAIL search engine. That's how I ended up here. Total
time: roughly two weeks.
What's in /var/qmail/rc?
The contents of the rc file is:
#!/bin/sh
# Using splogger to send the log through syslog.
# Using qmail-local to deliver messages to ~/Mailbox by default.
exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \
qmail-start ./Mailbox splogger qmail
Security:
rights: 0755
user: root
group: qmail
However, I am attempting to build an rc.d script to start QMAIL. Here is
its contents:
#!/bin/sh
# Source function library
. /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions
# Source networking configuration
. /etc/sysconfig/network
# Make sure that networking resources are available
[ ${NETWORKING} = "no" ] && exit 0
# Perform a little file checking. Check to make sure the files in question
# exist before proceeding.
[ -x /var/qmail/bin/qmail-start ] || exit 0
[ -x /var/qmail/bin/splogger ] || exit 0
# Define local variables and initialize
RETVAL=0
# Determine parameters used when calling this script
case "$1" in
start)
# Startup the QMAIL Engine.
echo -n "Starting the QMAIL Engine: "
exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \
qmail-start ./Mailbox splogger qmail &i
success
RETVAL=$?
echo
[ $RETVAL -eq 0 ] && touch /var/lock/subsys/qmmain
;;
stop)
# Stop the QMAIL Engine
echo -n "Shutting down the QMAIL Engine: "
killproc qmail-send
RETVAL=$?
echo
[ $RETVAL -eq 0 ] && rm -f /var/lock/subsys/qmmain
;;
status)
status qmail-send
RETVAL=$?
;;
restart|reload)
$0 stop
sleep 5
$0 start
RETVAL=$?
;;
*)
echo "Usage: qmmain {start|stop|restart|status}"
exit 1
esac
exit $RETVAL
*** END OF FILE ***
***
Dave, thank you for your help. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Regards,
Tom Sarratt
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Sill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 11:32 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Alias Support Question
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>1) Actual contents of the ~alias/.qmail-postmaster file:
>
>&tom:sarratt:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>2) Contents of control/virtualdomains:
>
>missionprinting.org:missionprinting-org
>
>3) Snippet from the QMAIL-Send Log showing the failure:
>
>* I am unable to find the logfile, if it is being written, that is holding
>send information.
How did you install qmail? (tm) What's in /var/qmail/rc?
>4) Partial listing of the users/assign file:
>
>=missionprinting-org-tom.sarratt.jr:pop3ctrl:508:503:/popboxes/mprnt/sarrt2
:
>::
OK, so a message comes in for postmaster@whatever and is presumably
handed off to qmail-local, user alias, where it's redirected to
tom:sarratt:[EMAIL PROTECTED] qmail-send sees that
missionprinting.org is a virtual domain, so it's directed to
missionprinting-org-tom:sarratt:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
qmail-lspawn looks at the mailbox name,
"missionprinting-org-tom:sarratt:jr". It doesn't find it in
users/assign (because colons aren't periods), and it can't be a valid
username, so the delivery fails with "no such mailbox".
Change the .qmail-postmaster file to:
&[EMAIL PROTECTED]
and it ought to work.
Apparently you were confused about the replacement of .'s with :'s in
extension addresses by qmail-local. That's not an issue here since
qmail-local will never see an address with an extension, with or
without .'s, in this case.
-Dave
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 11:04:10AM -0500, tom.sarratt.jr wrote:
>
[snip...]
> Rights to the .qmail-postmaster file:
>
> access params: 0664
> owner: alias
> group: qmail
[snip...]
According to INSTALL.alias, you should create the ~alias/.qmail-XXX
files by touching them. Presumably you *wouldn't* be logged in as alias,
so the owner wouldn't be alias. Maybe that doesn't matter, but upon
inspection, I find all my ~alias/.qmail-XXX files are owned by
root:qmail.
Also, and more importantly, the dot-qmail man page says:
If .qmail is world-writable or group-writable, qmail-local
stops and indicates a temporary failure.
Your permissions are group writable. chmod 644 .qmail-postmaster and see
if the delivery works.
Tim
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Daniel Augusto Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Does qmail-lspawn look for local user before it calls qmail-local?
Yes, of course. Since qmail-local runs with the user's uid, the user
has to exist before qmail-local is started.
This question is also answered nicely by the /var/qmail/doc/PIC*2local
files.
>I've been told that "it is not the job of a mail delivery agent, such as
>maildrop, to figure out whether a user exists, or not. That's the mail
>server's job. That's what it's supposed to do. If the recipient mailbox
>does not exist, the mail server must bounce the message, instead of
>running a local mail delivery agent for a non-existent account".
Yes, all true, with the proviso that "mailbox" here means "mail user",
not "file or directory receiving incoming mail for a particular mail
user". In other words, if "joe" is a normal, non-root user who owns
his home directory (which is accessible to to user qmailp), then "joe"
is a "mailbox"--regardless of whether ~joe/Mailbox or ~joe/Maildir
exists.
-Dave
Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Daniel Augusto Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Does qmail-lspawn look for local user before it calls qmail-local?
>
> Yes, of course. Since qmail-local runs with the user's uid, the user
> has to exist before qmail-local is started.
>
> This question is also answered nicely by the /var/qmail/doc/PIC*2local
> files.
>
> >I've been told that "it is not the job of a mail delivery agent, such as
> >maildrop, to figure out whether a user exists, or not. That's the mail
> >server's job. That's what it's supposed to do. If the recipient mailbox
> >does not exist, the mail server must bounce the message, instead of
> >running a local mail delivery agent for a non-existent account".
>
> Yes, all true, with the proviso that "mailbox" here means "mail user",
> not "file or directory receiving incoming mail for a particular mail
> user". In other words, if "joe" is a normal, non-root user who owns
> his home directory (which is accessible to to user qmailp), then "joe"
> is a "mailbox"--regardless of whether ~joe/Mailbox or ~joe/Maildir
> exists.
>
And if the if it's a virtual domain account? It could not be able to set
to the user ID, does it look if the recipient mail user actually
exists?
Thanks for your help,
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>And if the if it's a virtual domain account? It could not be able to set
>to the user ID, does it look if the recipient mail user actually
>exists?
Again, the PIC's answer this question. Specifically
/var/qmail/doc/PIC.local2virt. And, again, yes, qmail-lspawn verifies
the virtual domain account.
-Dave
Dave Sill wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >And if the if it's a virtual domain account? It could not be able to set
> >to the user ID, does it look if the recipient mail user actually
> >exists?
>
> Again, the PIC's answer this question. Specifically
> /var/qmail/doc/PIC.local2virt. And, again, yes, qmail-lspawn verifies
> the virtual domain account.
>
Ok... Sorry that!
It's just because I'm not at my office right now!
As soon as I get there I'll look at the PIC's...
Thanks again,
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GCSNet http://www.gcsnet.com.br/
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Se você não encontra
o sentido das coisas
é porque este não
se encontra, se cria.
Antoine Saint-Exupéry
Daniel Augusto Fernandes wrote:
>
> Dave Sill wrote:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > >And if the if it's a virtual domain account? It could not be able to set
> > >to the user ID, does it look if the recipient mail user actually
> > >exists?
> >
> > Again, the PIC's answer this question. Specifically
> > /var/qmail/doc/PIC.local2virt. And, again, yes, qmail-lspawn verifies
> > the virtual domain account.
> >
>
> Ok... Sorry that!
> It's just because I'm not at my office right now!
>
> As soon as I get there I'll look at the PIC's...
>
I've looked the PIC.local2virt.
Question: When a virtual domain is assigned to an user like that:
+epostal.com.br-:epostal.com.br:3367:503:/home/vpopmail/domains/epostal.com.br:-::
What happens?
Does it setuid and chdir to that user home, look for .qmail-user?
What if it finds .qmail-default (as in my case)?
I have the folowing .qmail:
| preline maildrop -d "$EXT@$HOST"
How could qmail-lspawn know where I have my virtual users info? Like
/home/vpopmail/domains/*/vpasswd.
I'm a little lost yet...
:o(
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Se você não encontra
o sentido das coisas
é porque este não
se encontra, se cria.
Antoine Saint-Exupéry
I don't know if it will help but I'm sending my strace -f on qmail-send
and qmail-lspawn!
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Se você não encontra
o sentido das coisas
é porque este não
se encontra, se cria.
Antoine Saint-Exupéry
Daniel Augusto Fernandes wrote:
>
> Daniel Augusto Fernandes wrote:
> >
> > Dave Sill wrote:
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > >And if the if it's a virtual domain account? It could not be able to set
> > > >to the user ID, does it look if the recipient mail user actually
> > > >exists?
> > >
> > > Again, the PIC's answer this question. Specifically
> > > /var/qmail/doc/PIC.local2virt. And, again, yes, qmail-lspawn verifies
> > > the virtual domain account.
> > >
> >
> > Ok... Sorry that!
> > It's just because I'm not at my office right now!
> >
> > As soon as I get there I'll look at the PIC's...
> >
>
> I've looked the PIC.local2virt.
> Question: When a virtual domain is assigned to an user like that:
> +epostal.com.br-:epostal.com.br:3367:503:/home/vpopmail/domains/epostal.com.br:-::
>
> What happens?
>
> Does it setuid and chdir to that user home, look for .qmail-user?
> What if it finds .qmail-default (as in my case)?
>
> I have the folowing .qmail:
> | preline maildrop -d "$EXT@$HOST"
>
> How could qmail-lspawn know where I have my virtual users info? Like
> /home/vpopmail/domains/*/vpasswd.
>
> I'm a little lost yet...
> :o(
open("lock/trigger", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = 8
open("todo", O_RDONLY) = 9
open("todo/731459", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = 10
open("info/13/731459", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL, 0644) = 11
open("local/13/731459", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL, 0644) = 12
open("local/13/731459", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = 10
open("info/13/731459", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = 11
open("lock/trigger", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = 8
open("todo", O_RDONLY) = 9
[pid 4897] chdir("/var/qmail") = 0
[pid 4897] chdir("/home/vpopmail/domains/epostal.com.br") = 0
[pid 4897] execve("bin/qmail-local", ["bin/qmail-local", "--", "epostal.com.br",
"/home/vpopmail/domains/epostal.c"..., "epostal.com.br-ksjfd", "-", "ksjfd",
"epostal.com.br", "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", "| preline maildrop -d \"$EXT@$HO"...], [/* 1
var */]) = 0
[pid 4898] execve("/bin/sh", ["/bin/sh", "-c", " maildrop -d \"$EXT@$HOST\""], [/* 19
vars */]) = 0
open("13/731459", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = 2
[pid 4897] open("users/cdb", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = 5
[pid 4897] open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY) = 3
[pid 4897] open("/lib/libc.so.5", O_RDONLY) = 3
[pid 4897] open(".qmail-ksjfd", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
[pid 4897] open(".qmail-default", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = 3
[pid 4898] open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY) = 3
[pid 4898] open("/lib/libtermcap.so.2", O_RDONLY) = 3
[pid 4898] open("/lib/libc.so.5", O_RDONLY) = 3
[pid 4898] open("/etc/passwd", O_RDONLY) = 3
[pid 4898] open("..", O_RDONLY) = 3
[pid 4898] open("../..", O_RDONLY) = 3
[pid 4898] open("../../..", O_RDONLY) = 3
[pid 4898] open("../../../..", O_RDONLY) = 3
[pid 4898] open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY) = 3
[pid 4898] open("/lib/libgdbm.so.1", O_RDONLY) = 3
[pid 4898] open("/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.27", O_RDONLY) = 3
[pid 4898] open("/lib/libm.so.5", O_RDONLY) = 3
[pid 4898] open("/lib/libc.so.5", O_RDONLY) = 3
[pid 4898] open("/etc/userdb.dat", O_RDONLY) = 3
[pid 4898] open("/etc/passwd", O_RDONLY) = 4
[pid 4898] open("/usr/lib/zoneinfo/localtime", O_RDONLY) = 5
[pid 4898] execve("/usr/local/bin/maildrop", ["maildrop", "-d",
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"], [/* 25 vars */]) = 0
open("lock/trigger", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = 8
open("todo", O_RDONLY) = 9
open("todo/731461", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = 10
open("info/15/731461", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL, 0644) = 11
open("local/15/731461", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL, 0644) = 12
open("local/15/731461", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = 10
open("info/15/731461", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = 11
open("lock/trigger", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = 8
open("todo", O_RDONLY) = 9
[pid 4902] chdir("/var/qmail") = 0
[pid 4902] chdir("/home/vpopmail/domains/epostal.com.br") = 0
[pid 4902] execve("bin/qmail-local", ["bin/qmail-local", "--", "epostal.com.br",
"/home/vpopmail/domains/epostal.c"..., "epostal.com.br-daftm", "-", "daftm",
"epostal.com.br", "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", "| preline maildrop -d \"$EXT@$HO"...], [/* 1
var */]) = 0
[pid 4903] execve("/bin/sh", ["/bin/sh", "-c", " maildrop -d \"$EXT@$HOST\""], [/* 19
vars */]) = 0
open("15/731461", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = 2
[pid 4902] open("users/cdb", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = 5
[pid 4902] open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY) = 3
[pid 4902] open("/lib/libc.so.5", O_RDONLY) = 3
[pid 4902] open(".qmail-daftm", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
[pid 4902] open(".qmail-default", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = 3
[pid 4903] open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY) = 3
[pid 4903] open("/lib/libtermcap.so.2", O_RDONLY) = 3
[pid 4903] open("/lib/libc.so.5", O_RDONLY) = 3
[pid 4903] open("/etc/passwd", O_RDONLY) = 3
[pid 4903] open("..", O_RDONLY) = 3
[pid 4903] open("../..", O_RDONLY) = 3
[pid 4903] open("../../..", O_RDONLY) = 3
[pid 4903] open("../../../..", O_RDONLY) = 3
[pid 4903] open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY) = 3
[pid 4903] open("/lib/libgdbm.so.1", O_RDONLY) = 3
[pid 4903] open("/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.27", O_RDONLY) = 3
[pid 4903] open("/lib/libm.so.5", O_RDONLY) = 3
[pid 4903] open("/lib/libc.so.5", O_RDONLY) = 3
[pid 4903] open("/etc/userdb.dat", O_RDONLY) = 3
open("local/15/731461", O_WRONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = 9
open("info/15/731461", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = 9
[pid 4903] open("/etc/maildroprc", O_RDONLY) = 3
[pid 4903] open(".mailfilter", O_RDONLY) = 3
[pid 4903] open("./Maildir/./tmp/967830798.4903_0.catope,S=1264",
O_WRONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_CREAT|O_EXCL, 0600) = 3
[pid 4903] chdir("/home/vpopmail/domains/epostal.com.br/G/daftm") = 0
[pid 4903] execve("/usr/local/bin/maildrop", ["maildrop", "-d",
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"], [/* 25m vars */]) = 0
Daniel Augusto Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've looked the PIC.local2virt.
>Question: When a virtual domain is assigned to an user like that:
>+epostal.com.br-:epostal.com.br:3367:503:/home/vpopmail/domains/epostal.com.br:-::
>
>What happens?
Well, unfortunately none of the PIC's cover the case of a successful
lookup in qmail-users. Luckily, "Life with qmail" answers this
question. See http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#qmail-users for
complete details.
>Does it setuid and chdir to that user home, look for .qmail-user?
>What if it finds .qmail-default (as in my case)?
qmail-lspawn runs qmail-local with the specified UID and GID. If the
message was sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED], it'd be delivered according
to instructions in /home/vpopmail/domains/epostal.com.br/.qmail-info.
>I have the folowing .qmail:
>| preline maildrop -d "$EXT@$HOST"
>
>How could qmail-lspawn know where I have my virtual users info? Like
>/home/vpopmail/domains/*/vpasswd.
I don't know exactly what you mean, and I don't use vpopmail, but if
there's a matching entry in users/assign, that specifies all the
details qmail-lspawn needs.
-Dave
Dave Sill wrote:
>
> Daniel Augusto Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I've looked the PIC.local2virt.
> >Question: When a virtual domain is assigned to an user like that:
> >+epostal.com.br-:epostal.com.br:3367:503:/home/vpopmail/domains/epostal.com.br:-::
> >
> >What happens?
>
> Well, unfortunately none of the PIC's cover the case of a successful
> lookup in qmail-users. Luckily, "Life with qmail" answers this
> question. See http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#qmail-users for
> complete details.
I'll study it.
>
> >Does it setuid and chdir to that user home, look for .qmail-user?
> >What if it finds .qmail-default (as in my case)?
>
> qmail-lspawn runs qmail-local with the specified UID and GID. If the
> message was sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED], it'd be delivered according
> to instructions in /home/vpopmail/domains/epostal.com.br/.qmail-info.
>
> >I have the folowing .qmail:
> >| preline maildrop -d "$EXT@$HOST"
> >
I said it badly here. That is the '.qmail-default' for that virtual
domain.
> >How could qmail-lspawn know where I have my virtual users info? Like
> >/home/vpopmail/domains/*/vpasswd.
>
This was another question.
> I don't know exactly what you mean, and I don't use vpopmail, but if
> there's a matching entry in users/assign, that specifies all the
> details qmail-lspawn needs.
With this users/assign line:
+epostal.com.br-:epostal.com.br:3367:503:/home/vpopmail/domains/epostal.com.br:-::
What will it do next after not finding '.qmail-<user>' in
'/home/vpopmail/domains/epostal.com.br'?
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Daniel Augusto Fernandes (DAF tm) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GCSNet http://www.gcsnet.com.br/
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Se você não encontra
o sentido das coisas
é porque este não
se encontra, se cria.
Antoine Saint-Exupéry
Daniel Augusto Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>With this users/assign line:
>+epostal.com.br-:epostal.com.br:3367:503:/home/vpopmail/domains/epostal.com.br:-::
>
>What will it do next after not finding '.qmail-<user>' in
>'/home/vpopmail/domains/epostal.com.br'?
Look for .qmail-default and bounce with "no such mailbox" if it
doesn't find it.
-Dave
Aaron,
try checking out vpopmail
You'll find some info on it at http://www.inter7.com
Im using that system over Qmail myself, and it works gr8!
-fjw
-----Opprinnelig melding-----
Fra: Aaron Dougherty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sendt: 2. september 2000 07:46
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: Virtual Domains
Hi,
I'm trying to set up virtual domains with Qmail right now. I'm sure
there's plenty of documentation other there on this, but I don't seem to
be finding it. Any pointers to documentation, or help would be
appreciated.
What I am trying to accomplish is to have [EMAIL PROTECTED] go to
user1 and [EMAIL PROTECTED] go to user2.
So far, I have been able to set qmail up to allow [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
go
to user1, and [EMAIL PROTECTED] to go to user1, but not get the same
username on different domains to go to differnt system user.
Thanks!
-Aaron
Aaron Dougherty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm trying to set up virtual domains with Qmail right now. I'm sure
>there's plenty of documentation other there on this, but I don't seem to
>be finding it. Any pointers to documentation, or help would be
>appreciated.
http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#virtual-domains
-Dave
Help :)
I've been trying to get virtualdomains working, but whenever i put a
virtualdomains file in control qmail refuses to start up. I don't get
any errors or anything, it just doesn't show in ps. It all works fine
without a virtualdomains file. Any ideas?
Thanks.
Nick
--
Nick Davies
Technical Director
Magnitude
www.magnitude.co.uk
t : 01423 529 700
On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Nick Davies wrote:
>
> Help :)
>
> I've been trying to get virtualdomains working, but whenever i put a
> virtualdomains file in control qmail refuses to start up. I don't get
> any errors or anything, it just doesn't show in ps. It all works fine
> without a virtualdomains file. Any ideas?
What do the logs say?
What's in the virtualdomains file?
Ya gotta give us something to go on.
Vince.
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Nick Davies wrote:
>
> Help :)
>
> I've been trying to get virtualdomains working, but whenever i put a
> virtualdomains file in control qmail refuses to start up. I don't get
> any errors or anything, it just doesn't show in ps. It all works fine
> without a virtualdomains file. Any ideas?
I have found 'personally' that it is easier to setup virtual domains
with a virtual domain manager. It does all the work for you and updates
all the qmail related files. That package is called Vpopmail and it
makes creating virtual domains EASY. You can create a virtual domain
with a couple users in under 10 mins or so. The address to grab a copy
is
www.inter7.com/vchkpw/
--
Dale Miracle
System Administrator
Teoi Virtual Web Hosting
Aaron Dougherty wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I'm trying to set up virtual domains with Qmail right now. I'm sure
> there's plenty of documentation other there on this, but I don't seem to
> be finding it. Any pointers to documentation, or help would be
> appreciated.
>
> What I am trying to accomplish is to have [EMAIL PROTECTED] go to
> user1 and [EMAIL PROTECTED] go to user2.
>
> So far, I have been able to set qmail up to allow [EMAIL PROTECTED] to go
> to user1, and [EMAIL PROTECTED] to go to user1, but not get the same
> username on different domains to go to differnt system user.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Aaron
Here are some web pages to look into:
Vpopmail a VirtualMail manager works GREAT! Once installed you can add
virtual domains and users in less then 10 mins. It also works with
Qmail's dot mail features.
www.inter7.com/vchkpw/
Life with Qmail is a well written page about setting up qmail written by
Dave Sill
Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html
Qmail Howto is another well written page on Qmail written by Adam
McKenna
www.flounder.net/qmail/qmail-howto.html
They both explain the usage of virtual domains and how to use the dot
files called dot-qmail which is probably what you are going to need to
do. Vpopmail automates the creation of virtual domains and still uses
the dot-qmail files.
Take Care,
--
Dale Miracle
System Administrator
Teoi Virtual Web Hosting
Thank you all for the pointers ^_^
-Aaron
On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Dale Miracle wrote:
> Aaron Dougherty wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > I'm trying to set up virtual domains with Qmail right now. I'm sure
> > there's plenty of documentation other there on this, but I don't seem to
> > be finding it. Any pointers to documentation, or help would be
> > appreciated.
> >
> > What I am trying to accomplish is to have [EMAIL PROTECTED] go to
> > user1 and [EMAIL PROTECTED] go to user2.
> >
> > So far, I have been able to set qmail up to allow [EMAIL PROTECTED] to go
> > to user1, and [EMAIL PROTECTED] to go to user1, but not get the same
> > username on different domains to go to differnt system user.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > -Aaron
>
> Here are some web pages to look into:
>
> Vpopmail a VirtualMail manager works GREAT! Once installed you can add
> virtual domains and users in less then 10 mins. It also works with
> Qmail's dot mail features.
> www.inter7.com/vchkpw/
>
> Life with Qmail is a well written page about setting up qmail written by
> Dave Sill
> Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html
>
> Qmail Howto is another well written page on Qmail written by Adam
> McKenna
> www.flounder.net/qmail/qmail-howto.html
>
> They both explain the usage of virtual domains and how to use the dot
> files called dot-qmail which is probably what you are going to need to
> do. Vpopmail automates the creation of virtual domains and still uses
> the dot-qmail files.
> Take Care,
>
What mail system did you use with Qmail? Proc or Mbox?
-fjw
-----Opprinnelig melding-----
Fra: Paul Tan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sendt: 1. september 2000 08:10
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: qmail-vpopmail question
Hi there,
I have installed qmail and vpopmail for virtual domains. But
when i
send mails to a virtual domain....mail doesn't go into their
maildirs....qmail reports no errors. It doesn't reject the mail.
I understand that to install qmail... you need to have a DNS
server
with your MX record set. And vpopmail will modify files in your
~qmail/control dir. but hell, where did all my mails go to?
I probably misconfigured something....any pointers from gurus
out
there??
Thks
Paul
Paul Tan wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> I have installed qmail and vpopmail for virtual domains. But when i
> send mails to a virtual domain....mail doesn't go into their
> maildirs....qmail reports no errors. It doesn't reject the mail.
>
> I understand that to install qmail... you need to have a DNS server
> with your MX record set. And vpopmail will modify files in your
> ~qmail/control dir. but hell, where did all my mails go to?
>
> I probably misconfigured something....any pointers from gurus out
> there??
>
> Thks
> Paul
Can you post your control files and other configuration files? Need a
little information.
Thanks,
--
Dale Miracle
System Administrator
Teoi Virtual Web Hosting
Petre Rodan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>fetchmail: no local matches, forwarding to postmaster
>fetchmail: forwarding to localhost
>fetchmail: SMTP> MAIL
>FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>please help me become a user ;)
This is a fetchmail problem/question. The messages are going to
postmaster because that's where fetchmail is sending them. You haven't
told us anything about how you're using fetchmail, so there's no way
we can tell you what to change.
I suggest you check the fetchmail man page, web site, mailing list,
etc. People here might be able to help, but it's not really the
appropriate channel.
Here's one hint: if the entire mailbox you're fetching should go to
peter, use "is peter here" in the .fetchmailrc entry for this pop
server.
-Dave
|
wow!
I did it and now it works FINE!
Thanks a lot once again!
I wish you a nice week-end!
Marco.
|
> >However, when I ran qmail-qstat, it showed ~3300 messages in
> the queue
> >(normally this is closer to 400). In the past, this has indicated an
> >onslaught on spam. But if resources are available, and smtp
> and local have
> >concurrency available, I don't understand why ANY incoming
> message would not
> >show up in someone's mailbox promptly.
>
> I don't either.
>
> Did you try injecting a message and tracking it through the logs? You
> need to identify where they're lingering.
No, I did not try in enough detail. Do you recommend injecting from a remote
qmail machine? That would allow me to track the individual message's
delivery from the remote qmail's maillog, since it may never make it to the
local server...
> And have you check your trigger?
I'm fearful of running "make check" because it depends on "install", and
this is a live system. However, the trigger shows:
prw--w--w- 1 qmails qmail 0 Sep 1 10:40 trigger
(and the system seems to be fine now without any modification).
So, unless there are any other ideas, I guess I'll just have to try to track
an injection next time around, eh?
Thanks very much!
Dave K
:)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Did you try injecting a message and tracking it through the logs? You
>> need to identify where they're lingering.
>
>No, I did not try in enough detail. Do you recommend injecting from a remote
>qmail machine? That would allow me to track the individual message's
>delivery from the remote qmail's maillog, since it may never make it to the
>local server...
Hmm, I didn't think there was any question that messages were being
queued and the delays were after that point. Am I missing something?
>I'm fearful of running "make check" because it depends on "install", and
>this is a live system. However, the trigger shows:
>
> prw--w--w- 1 qmails qmail 0 Sep 1 10:40 trigger
Looks good to me.
-Dave
> Do you recommend
> injecting from a remote
> >qmail machine? That would allow me to track the individual message's
> >delivery from the remote qmail's maillog, since it may never
> make it to the
> >local server...
>
> Hmm, I didn't think there was any question that messages were being
> queued and the delays were after that point. Am I missing something?
I did not know if the messages were queued yet or not. That is why I also
checked that qmail-smtpd had enough concurrencies to spare. But that raises
a good point: when I trace my message next time around, I'll be sure to see
if it's already in the queue, but stuck there for some reason.
Dave K
I used recordio with qmail-smtpd to trace some smtp dialogs, and found some
results that you qmail-philes might find useful. For some reason, I had
trouble extracting this info by looking at the source code.
Useful qmail-smtpd exit codes:
256 = bare linefeed problem (http://cr.yp.to/docs/smtplf.html)
25600 = tcpserver denial (probably invalid IP)
I hope this helps others of y'all.
Incidentally, if there are THAT many 256's showing up in our logs, I wonder
if, rather than taking it as a Hard error, the remote smtp server is
treating it as a deferral, and continuing to retry repeatedly...
Dave
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Kitabjian
> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 10:43 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: so much qmail-smtpd activity, so little qmail-send
> activity...
>
>
> I recently started monitoring qmail-smtpd's activity via
> "tcpserver -v", and at the moment it's burning through a
> steady 15-20 concurrencies, scrolling by beyond readability.
>
> Meanwhile, as I "tail -f maillog" for qmail-send's activity,
> it sits predominantly idle, with an occasional message to
> process. Now, regardless of whether it's local or remote, it
> should get picked up by qmail-send, right?
>
> So the question then is, if it's not receiving mail, what is
> qmail-smtpd doing? Is it receiving connections from known
> spammers on my tcp.smtp list, and dropping them? A quick scan
> of IP's doesn't jibe with that theory; plus there's no
> "access denied" message shown. I'm suspicious of all the:
>
> 2000-07-17 09:55:44.476546500 tcpserver: end 99787 status 256
>
> Looking at tcpserver.c, I can't tell what this means. I looks
> like it has something to do with the wait() function. Can one
> of you Unix/C gurus lend a hand?
>
> Thanks :)
>
> Dave
>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Incidentally, if there are THAT many 256's showing up in our logs, I wonder
>if, rather than taking it as a Hard error, the remote smtp server is
>treating it as a deferral, and continuing to retry repeatedly...
Stray LF's are a temporary problem in qmail's opinion. There was a
thread here on that topic within the past week.
-Dave
I have a 14 lists with 120,000 addresses total, about 12,000 to 25,000
on each list. Last night a user sent mail out to the 14 lists.
Everything was sent and qmail did it thing. The problem is the first
come, first serve queue. Qmail wouldn't handle another list until the
first list was done. The remote was around 100/300 and it was sending
around 30,000 to 40,000 emails an hour, which is good, but not pushing
the server. Most of my lists deliver to one remote server, but are not
sorted by servers.
Is there was a better a queue management that would figure, through some
method, that handling the queue based on address would be better then
first come, first serve? I would like this so qmail won't try to send
10,000 messages to one server, that can only handle 5000 connections a
hour which
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 11:11:29AM -0500, Steven Rice wrote:
> come, first serve queue. Qmail wouldn't handle another list until the
> first list was done. The remote was around 100/300 and it was sending
> around 30,000 to 40,000 emails an hour, which is good, but not pushing
> the server.
Then you need to investigate which resource is the current limiting
factor: CPU, memory, I/O, bandwidth ... ? Consider supplying more of
whatever is found to be the limiting factor.
> Is there was a better a queue management that would figure, through some
> method, that handling the queue based on address would be better then
> first come, first serve?
There have been many discussion about this.
> I would like this so qmail won't try to send
> 10,000 messages to one server, that can only handle 5000 connections a
> hour
Administrators who allow their public network services to take on a load
which adversely affects other services or users are incompetent. My MTA
will not accept more connections than it can handle.
Regards,
james
--
James Raftery (JBR54) - Programmer Hostmaster - IE TLD Hostmaster
IE Domain Registry - www.domainregistry.ie - (+353 1) 706 2375
"Managing 4000 customer domains with BIND has been a lot like
herding cats." - Mike Batchelor, on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 05:41:53PM +0200, J.M. Roth wrote:
> Now, when I send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] the following appears in the log:
> 967822786.320142 info msg 46208: bytes 1449 from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 10718 uid 502
> 967822786.321317 starting delivery 15073: msg 46208 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 967822786.321348 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
> 967822786.326289 delivery 15073: failure:
>Sorry,_no_mailbox_here_by_that_name._(#5.1.1)/
> 967822786.326542 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
> 967822786.330691 bounce msg 46208 qp 10720
vdelivermail doesn't look for the directory. It looks for the entry in
vpasswd. Is it there?
> Another question: can I mix several forwards and local deliveries in 1 dot-qmail
>file?
> f.e. .qmail-default
> | vdelivermail blabla
> &someguy@somewhere
> &someotherguy@somewhere
> | vdelivermail blabla2
man dot-qmail
Ben
--
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Bitstream Underground www.bitstream.net
Hi folks!
So, this is my dilema:
When I receive mails from this mailing list the folowing message popps
up:
reading message 4 of 45 (2050 octets)
About to rewrite Return-Path:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Rewritten version is Return-Path:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
About to rewrite To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rewritten version is To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fetchmail: no local matches, forwarding to postmaster
fetchmail: forwarding to localhost
[..]
fetchmail: SMTP> RCPT TO:<postmaster@localhost>
[..]
I have this in the header or the e-mail:
Received: from muncher.math.uic.edu (muncher.math.uic.edu
[131.193.178.181])
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if I receive a personal message which has 'TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
everything is ok:
About to rewrite To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rewritten version is To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fetchmail: mapped rodan to local rodan
fetchmail: forwarding to localhost
[..]
fetchmail: SMTP> RCPT TO:<rodan@localhost>
[..]
Why in the first case the message is not injected to 'local rodan' as
it should?
I know this is a looong message and I appologize. I've read the docs
from qmail and fetchmail and I can't figure out why the type of messages
that doesn't contain the actual user in the TO, CC or BCC fields getts
routed to postmaster this way. This defies logic ;)
Many many thanks,
Peter
background:
Linux RedHat 6.1, qmail-1.03, fetchmail-5.1.0, socks-v5r11, imap-4.5 and
no dns servers.
/control/virtualdomains
fixme:fixup
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:peter
:alias-ppp
/control/rcpthosts
localhost.localdomain
subdimension.com
localhost
127.0.0.1
192.168.0.4
192.168.0.2
/users/assign
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:peter:503:78:/home/peter:::
.
the rest of the qmail scripts are taken from the great LWQ
the way I run fetchmail:
runsocks fetchmail -f /etc/fetchmailrc -v -v
/etc/fetchmailrc
poll mail.subdimension.com protocol pop3 aka subdimension.com nodns
envelope Delivered-To:
username "rodan" with password "#$^$^$#" is peter here
fetchall forcecr to * here
poll pop.mail.yahoo.com protocol pop3 aka yahoo.com nodns
[..]
Petre Rodan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> When I receive mails from this mailing list the folowing message popps
> up:
>
> reading message 4 of 45 (2050 octets)
> About to rewrite Return-Path:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Rewritten version is Return-Path:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> About to rewrite To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Rewritten version is To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> fetchmail: no local matches, forwarding to postmaster
> fetchmail: forwarding to localhost
> [..]
> fetchmail: SMTP> RCPT TO:<postmaster@localhost>
> [..]
> I know this is a looong message and I appologize. I've read the docs
> from qmail and fetchmail and I can't figure out why the type of messages
> that doesn't contain the actual user in the TO, CC or BCC fields getts
> routed to postmaster this way. This defies logic ;)
qmail is doing what it is told. fetchmail is making the decision to inject
it to postmaster instead of rodan. Try the fetchmail mailing list; there's
no changes to your qmail config that will change fetchmail's behaviour.
Or try 'getmail'. It does no header rewriting and does not re-inject via
SMTP.
Charles
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Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
QCC Communications Corporation Saskatoon, SK
My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer.
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Petre Rodan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>When I receive mails from this mailing list the folowing message popps
>up:
>
>reading message 4 of 45 (2050 octets)
>About to rewrite Return-Path:
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Rewritten version is Return-Path:
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>About to rewrite To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Rewritten version is To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>fetchmail: no local matches, forwarding to postmaster
>fetchmail: forwarding to localhost
>[..]
>fetchmail: SMTP> RCPT TO:<postmaster@localhost>
>[..]
Right, so FETCHMAIL is trying to deduce the recipient based on the To:
header field. This is *not* going to work for list mail, spam, BCC's,
or any other message whose envelope recipients aren't listed in the
To: field. This is a lame way to redirect mail, but it's a FETCHMAIL
problem, not a qmail problem.
> Why in the first case the message is not injected to 'local rodan' as
>it should?
Because FETCHMAIL is trying to be fancy. Why is it doing that? How can
you stop it? Good questions...for a FETCHMAIL list.
>poll mail.subdimension.com protocol pop3 aka subdimension.com nodns
>envelope Delivered-To:
>username "rodan" with password "#$^$^$#" is peter here
>fetchall forcecr to * here
I don't know what "envelope Delivered-To:" is supposed to do because
I'm not a FETCHMAIL expert, but it looks suspicious to me.
-Dave
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 12:49:18PM -0400, Dave Sill wrote:
> Petre Rodan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >When I receive mails from this mailing list the folowing message popps
> >up:
> >
> >reading message 4 of 45 (2050 octets)
> >About to rewrite Return-Path:
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Rewritten version is Return-Path:
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >About to rewrite To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Rewritten version is To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >fetchmail: no local matches, forwarding to postmaster
> >fetchmail: forwarding to localhost
> >[..]
> >fetchmail: SMTP> RCPT TO:<postmaster@localhost>
> >[..]
>
> Right, so FETCHMAIL is trying to deduce the recipient based on the To:
> header field. This is *not* going to work for list mail, spam, BCC's,
> or any other message whose envelope recipients aren't listed in the
> To: field. This is a lame way to redirect mail, but it's a FETCHMAIL
> problem, not a qmail problem.
No.
What's happened is that fetchmail expects the Delivered-To header to
have the real recipient in it. Which means that it's probably picking up
the qmail list server Delivered-To: header.
Petre: You probably want to look at the documentation for the qvirtual
command in your fetchmailrc.
It's still a fetchmail error rather than a qmail one though.
J.
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Jonathan McDowell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 12:49:18PM -0400, Dave Sill wrote:
>>
>> Right, so FETCHMAIL is trying to deduce the recipient based on the To:
>> header field. This is *not* going to work for list mail, spam, BCC's,
>> or any other message whose envelope recipients aren't listed in the
>> To: field. This is a lame way to redirect mail, but it's a FETCHMAIL
>> problem, not a qmail problem.
>
>No.
OK, fine, thanks for explaining that. I did point out that I wasn't a
fetchmail expert. :-)
>What's happened is that fetchmail expects the Delivered-To header to
>have the real recipient in it. Which means that it's probably picking up
>the qmail list server Delivered-To: header.
This is a lame way to redirect mail...
>Petre: You probably want to look at the documentation for the qvirtual
>command in your fetchmailrc.
Sounds like my quess that the problem might be the "envelope
Delivered-To:" phrase was right.
>It's still a fetchmail error rather than a qmail one though.
Yup.
-Dave
Hello managers.
I have a problem, when reboot my machine don't
start qmail's daemon ....
my script /sbin/rc3.d/S81qmail shown me this:
=====================================================
#!/bin/sh
PATH=/var/qmail/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin
export PATH
echo -n "Starting qmail daemon : svscan"
cd /var/qmail/supervise
env - PATH="$PATH" svscan &
echo $! > /var/run/svscan.pid
echo "."
=====================================================
Is it good?
Do you have a script best?
Thanks Friends
Juan Enciso
===========
On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, Dave Sill wrote:
>
> It's also possible to cluster POP and IMAP servers, either with
> partitioned or shared responsibilities. E.g., you could have two POP
> servers: one for users whose names start with the letters A-M and
> another for those starting with N-Z. That spreads the load, but
> doesn't provide redundancy: if a server is down, some users are unable
> to access their mail. Alternatively, you can have multiple POP servers
> accessing a shared high-availability mail store like a
> network-attached RAID. The RAID is still a single-point-of-failure,
> but it's designed to minimize downtime. qmail's maildir format is
> especially well suited to storage on a network-attached RAID since it
> avoids messy locking problems.
In the case of shared storage, what is done to protect the queue? From
what I've read this far, losing the qmail queue means losing mail.
What are some of the ways to protect against this?
My first thought is mirrored drives on the incoming machines. That makes
the machines a little more pricey, but you get what you pay for.
Thanks,
Bill Carlson
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Bill Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> In the case of shared storage, what is done to protect the queue? From
> what I've read this far, losing the qmail queue means losing mail.
>
> What are some of the ways to protect against this?
>
> My first thought is mirrored drives on the incoming machines. That makes
> the machines a little more pricey, but you get what you pay for.
Yes, queue-on-RAID of any type (> 0) is good. Tape backups are another option,
although the queue changes so fast that a day-old backup is probably next
to worthless.
Charles
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Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
QCC Communications Corporation Saskatoon, SK
My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer.
--------------------------------------------------------------
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>In the case of shared storage, what is done to protect the queue? From
>what I've read this far, losing the qmail queue means losing mail.
>
>What are some of the ways to protect against this?
>
>My first thought is mirrored drives on the incoming machines. That makes
>the machines a little more pricey, but you get what you pay for.
Some form of RAID is necessary to protect messages in the queue.
Luckily, local deliveries usually happen very quickly, so the risk is
low.
-Dave
We have a qmail server with quite a few .qmail-enternamehere aliases, some
of which are used by our customers to email various internal groups.
for example, we have a .qmail-systems file:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sometimes, when someone emails an alias, one of the people in the list
causes a bounce. In the example, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".
This bounce ends up going to the customer who emailed the alias. Needless
to say, it doesn't look good. We'd rather that bounces in that specific
case don't happen.
We looked around for a solution, but can't find one, and am now asking if
anyone here might have an idea.
Thanks,
__________________________________________________
Christopher Angel, B.E., B.Sc Senior Systems Engineer
Qwest Communications, Inc. IP Operations/Systems
Direct: 703-363-3148 Fax: 703-363-3177
Pager: 888-666-3163 Pager Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 1 Sep 2000, at 12:56, Angel, Christopher J wrote:
> for example, we have a .qmail-systems file:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> This bounce ends up going to the customer who emailed the alias.
Quoting "man dot-qmail":
> When qmail-local forwards a message as instructed in
> .qmail-ext (or .qmail-default), it checks whether
> .qmail-ext-owner exists. If so, it uses local-
> owner@domain as the envelope sender for the forwarded mes
> sage. Otherwise it retains the envelope sender of the
> original message. Exception: qmail-local always retains the
> original envelope sender if it is the empty address or #@[],
> i.e., if this is a bounce message.
>
> qmail-local also supports variable envelope return paths
> (VERPs): if .qmail-ext-owner and .qmail-ext-owner-default both
> exist, it uses local-owner-@domain-@[] as the envelope
> sender. This will cause a recipient recip@reciphost to see
> an envelope sender of local-owner-recip=reci phost@domain.
>
I think this fully answers your question.
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The way that I solved that problem was to create a deletemailuser script in
my /usr/sbin directory that runs userdel, then runs through the .qmail
aliases, one at a time, grep -v 'ing for the username, replacing the
contents with the output of the grep. See below for the complete script.
MHP
#!/bin/bash
#
# /usr/sbin/mail/deletemailuser
# This program will delete qmail users from the system
# Written on 4-21-2000 by Matthew Patterson
# Modified to remove users from groups on 7-24-2000
#
/usr/sbin/userdel $1
rm -r /home/$1
cat /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-alias1 | grep -v $1 > /tmp/deletemailuser.alias1
mv -f /tmp/deletemailuser.alias1 /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-alias1
cat /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-alias2 | grep -v $1 > /tmp/deletemailuser.alias2
mv -f /tmp/deletemailuser.alias2 /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-alias2
----- Original Message -----
From: Angel, Christopher J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 11:56 AM
Subject: Bounce suppression on .qmail lists
> We have a qmail server with quite a few .qmail-enternamehere aliases, some
> of which are used by our customers to email various internal groups.
>
> for example, we have a .qmail-systems file:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Sometimes, when someone emails an alias, one of the people in the list
> causes a bounce. In the example, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".
>
> This bounce ends up going to the customer who emailed the alias. Needless
> to say, it doesn't look good. We'd rather that bounces in that specific
> case don't happen.
>
> We looked around for a solution, but can't find one, and am now asking if
> anyone here might have an idea.
>
> Thanks,
> __________________________________________________
> Christopher Angel, B.E., B.Sc Senior Systems Engineer
> Qwest Communications, Inc. IP Operations/Systems
> Direct: 703-363-3148 Fax: 703-363-3177
> Pager: 888-666-3163 Pager Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
The other option that you have is to edit login.defs, defining the
userdel_cmd and placing something to do the rest of this script in the
appropriate file, /usr/sbin/userdel_local by default.
MHP
----- Original Message -----
From: Matthew Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Angel, Christopher J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: Bounce suppression on .qmail lists
> The way that I solved that problem was to create a deletemailuser script
in
> my /usr/sbin directory that runs userdel, then runs through the .qmail
> aliases, one at a time, grep -v 'ing for the username, replacing the
> contents with the output of the grep. See below for the complete script.
>
> MHP
>
> #!/bin/bash
> #
> # /usr/sbin/mail/deletemailuser
> # This program will delete qmail users from the system
> # Written on 4-21-2000 by Matthew Patterson
> # Modified to remove users from groups on 7-24-2000
> #
>
> /usr/sbin/userdel $1
> rm -r /home/$1
>
> cat /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-alias1 | grep -v $1 >
/tmp/deletemailuser.alias1
> mv -f /tmp/deletemailuser.alias1 /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-alias1
>
> cat /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-alias2 | grep -v $1 >
/tmp/deletemailuser.alias2
> mv -f /tmp/deletemailuser.alias2 /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-alias2
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Angel, Christopher J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 11:56 AM
> Subject: Bounce suppression on .qmail lists
>
>
> > We have a qmail server with quite a few .qmail-enternamehere aliases,
some
> > of which are used by our customers to email various internal groups.
> >
> > for example, we have a .qmail-systems file:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Sometimes, when someone emails an alias, one of the people in the list
> > causes a bounce. In the example, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".
> >
> > This bounce ends up going to the customer who emailed the alias.
Needless
> > to say, it doesn't look good. We'd rather that bounces in that specific
> > case don't happen.
> >
> > We looked around for a solution, but can't find one, and am now asking
if
> > anyone here might have an idea.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > __________________________________________________
> > Christopher Angel, B.E., B.Sc Senior Systems Engineer
> > Qwest Communications, Inc. IP Operations/Systems
> > Direct: 703-363-3148 Fax: 703-363-3177
> > Pager: 888-666-3163 Pager Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
>
>
For the sake of following up on my previous questions about the spam relay
tests and Qmail's responses, also see RFC 2505
http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2505.txt, "Anti-Spam Recommendations for
SMTP MTAs" (Feb, 1999).
Jon Rust wrote:
>
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 03:30:45PM -0700, Jon Rust wrote:
> >
> > Hrmf. This doesn't work here. It reports 0 mesages at all times (even
> > though I've got 500+ in the queue right now).
> >
> > Suggestions? My queue is at /var/qmail/queue. I run it as root. ??
> >
> > jon
>
> Arg. The scripty comes packaged as suid. I unpacked as a non-priv user,
> so when I ran it as root, it changed back to non-priv user. Error
> checking on the opendir funtion would be nice. :-)
>
> opendir(DIR,"${queue}remote") || die "can't open queue $!\n";
>
> jon
Did you get the latest version?
Did you configure it correctly as on the README?
Mine is not suid and I run it as root.
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On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 02:08:04PM -0300, Daniel Augusto Fernandes wrote:
>
> Did you get the latest version?
> Did you configure it correctly as on the README?
>
> Mine is not suid and I run it as root.
Well, the only linked on his page... 0.4.1. I did a "tar xvzf" and it
came out with the suid bit set.
jon
> "ms7.url.com.tw" wrote:
>
> Hi folks:
>
> I got a problem, I think it could be series. The situation is:
>
> I want to use Email reader to catch email from
> qmail+vpopmail+tcpserver. First, the mail system will check
> account/password, I sure it ok, it means this is a legal. Now, I want
> to send some email to different people by this qmail system, now, the
> email system response me a error or information message, I can not
> sure what type of messages, is
>
> the server may not be accepting connection or may be busy,
> try connecting again later
>
> But, I can sure my connection works, and just for send/receive email.
>
> What can I do???
>
> Thanks,
>
> mARS
>
>
What does your log say for qmail? There should be a log for it in
/var/log . The logs should say what error occurred.
--
Dale Miracle
System Administrator
Teoi Virtual Web Hosting
Using the pop3-record-alternative under RedHat Linux 6.0 (2.2-15) and qmail-1.03
"memphis" rpm's, getting an error:
There was a problem logging onto your mail server. Your Password was rejected.
Account: 'mail.newman.com', Server:
'mail.newman.com', Protocol: POP3, Server Response: 'tcprules: fatal: unable to parse
this line:
206.84.204.38:allow,RELAYCLIENT=', Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error:
0x800CCC90, Error Number: 0x800CCC92
checking mail from the outside world. I believe this is coming from the patched
"checkpassword" function.
It may be related to the fact that the RELAYCLIENT entry that pop3-record generates
looks
like:
[root@mail tcprules.d]# cat smtp.filter.newer
206.84.204.38:allow,RELAYCLIENT=
Instead of:
206.84.204.38:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
If that's the case, how do I change the line of code:
echo ``$TCPREMOTEIP''':allow,RELAYCLIENT=''''' >> $TCPDIR/smtp.filter.newer
in pop3-record to generate the ""'s.
If that's not the case, can anyone tell me what else might be wrong?
TIA, Rob Havens
I believe that the answer is no, but is there any way, either through
control files, add-on programs or patches/recompiling with different
options, to strip the attachment off a message that is bouncing back to my
server so that an 8MB attachment doesn't lock up the clients (outlook,
netscape, etc.) for the better part of the day?
Thanks for any answers that you can give.
MHP
I have a databytes limit set, but that limit has to be around 9MB because of
files that we have to send out to customers. This will soon be a non issue
as we are selling that contract off to another company, but until then I
can't set databytes down at all. However, if there is some other way to
strip the attachment after qmail has broken the mime encoding, making the
file plain text, that would be what I am looking for.
Thanks though.
MHP
----- Original Message -----
From: Ihnen, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'Matthew Patterson' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 1:37 PM
Subject: RE: stripping attachments
> You could just refuse messages that are too large by setting a value in
the
> databytes file.
>
> David
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matthew Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 11:21 AM
> > To: qmail list
> > Subject: stripping attachments
> >
> >
> > I believe that the answer is no, but is there any way, either through
> > control files, add-on programs or patches/recompiling with different
> > options, to strip the attachment off a message that is
> > bouncing back to my
> > server so that an 8MB attachment doesn't lock up the clients (outlook,
> > netscape, etc.) for the better part of the day?
> >
> > Thanks for any answers that you can give.
> >
> > MHP
> >
>
"Matthew Patterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I believe that the answer is no, but is there any way, either through
>control files, add-on programs or patches/recompiling with different
>options, to strip the attachment off a message that is bouncing back to my
>server so that an 8MB attachment doesn't lock up the clients (outlook,
>netscape, etc.) for the better part of the day?
The short answer is "no".
The longer answer is "not easily". You'd have to patch qmail to
truncate messages with a null envelope return path. I'm not
a aware of such a patch, so implementing this would be a "small matter
of programming".
control/bouncebytes anyone?
-Dave
That sounds pretty good. The reason that i mention MIME is because I've
noticed that with the way that outlook codes the message when there is an
attachment, then with qmail's quoting of the message, it gets translated
back to plain text when it makes it way back to the clients (this is without
ever leaving our qmail box, so it can't be the usual problem with echange
futzing it.
Thanks
MHP
----- Original Message -----
From: Ihnen, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'Matthew Patterson' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 2:15 PM
Subject: RE: stripping attachments
> But qmail doesn't have anything to do with MIME. It delivers to envelope
> recipients, which aren't even (necessarily) even in the message headers.
>
> Of course, if you want to run it through some sort of filter that DOES
> understand MIME, then, I suppose that is certainly an option. Icky.
>
> An Alternative:
> Have outgoing e-mails transmitted to a different queue. You could add an
IP
> alias to the machine and have tcpserver listen on a different IP address,
> this one being where your users SMTP server setting. It would run a
> separate queue from the other one, and would have a high databyte limit.
It
> would only be accessible internally.
>
> On the other hand, your incoming mail queue (internet accessible) would
have
> a much lower databyte limit, which would stop any e-mails going TO one of
> your mailboxes from having an overly large attachment size.
>
> minorly more disk space, and requires no further hardware. Just an idea.
>
> David
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matthew Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 11:48 AM
> > To: Ihnen, David
> > Subject: Re: stripping attachments
> >
> >
> > I have a databytes limit set, but that limit has to be around
> > 9MB because of
> > files that we have to send out to customers. This will soon
> > be a non issue
> > as we are selling that contract off to another company, but
> > until then I
> > can't set databytes down at all. However, if there is some
> > other way to
> > strip the attachment after qmail has broken the mime
> > encoding, making the
> > file plain text, that would be what I am looking for.
> >
> > Thanks though.
> > MHP
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Ihnen, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 'Matthew Patterson' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 1:37 PM
> > Subject: RE: stripping attachments
> >
> >
> > > You could just refuse messages that are too large by
> > setting a value in
> > the
> > > databytes file.
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Matthew Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 11:21 AM
> > > > To: qmail list
> > > > Subject: stripping attachments
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I believe that the answer is no, but is there any way,
> > either through
> > > > control files, add-on programs or patches/recompiling
> > with different
> > > > options, to strip the attachment off a message that is
> > > > bouncing back to my
> > > > server so that an 8MB attachment doesn't lock up the
> > clients (outlook,
> > > > netscape, etc.) for the better part of the day?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for any answers that you can give.
> > > >
> > > > MHP
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Hi,
Can qmail be configured to do sender domain verification (as mentioned
below), ie, reject mail from domains that do not resolve?
Thanks,
kw
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael T. Babcock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "QMAIL List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 31 August 2000, Thursday 15:16
Subject: Sender domain verification ...
A quick one ... ?
... mail is being rejected from one of my clients to one of their partners
because their mail server is claiming that the sending machine's dns doesn't
resolve. We aren't authoritative (in the Internet sense ;-) for our subnet
for our ISP, so we can't easily make it resolve if they're doing reverse DNS
and checking the host names (which I've seen some mail server software, like
Imail, do). Logs:
Deferral reasons: (from qmailanalog)
22 56.96 Connected to 209.146.143.99 but my name was rejected./Remote
host said: 504 DNS verification of sending machine failed: no mail will be
accepted/
[ remaining lines snip-snapped ]
Of course. There are even patches (note the plural form) that allow
you to do so at http://www.qmail.org/. However, depending on who
you corresponding with, you may have troubles once you have enactivated
such anti-spam measure. I made a post in bind-user mailing list this
morning, followed up by Markus Stumpf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
who is also active in this mailing list. He stated that other than
the one I pointed out below, he is also aware of
rolemail.internic.net
lists.internic.net
So, think about such before you take further actions...
Regards,
Chin Fang
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I got the following bounce today:
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Sep 01 08:51:24 2000
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
.....
Received: (from rereg@localhost)
by qatestsession1.qa.netsol.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id EAA10916;
Fri, 1 Sep 2000 04:48:27 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 04:48:27 -0400 (EDT)
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[.... rest removed ...]
So, it's a domain name application. Feeling curious, I did a nslookup
on qatestsession1.qa.netsol.com, immediately got the "Non-existent
host/domain" error.
The fact that the lowest Received: line shows the host indicates to me
that the host is resolvable via internal name servers inside of NSI,
but the hostname is not announced in NSI's external name servers.
However, if my understanding of the following from RFC 2505 is correct:
2.9. Verify "MAIL From:"
The MTA SHOULD be able to perform a simple "sanity check" of the
"MAIL From:" domain and refuse to receive mail if that domain is
nonexistent (i.e. does not resolve to having an MX or an A record).
If the DNS error is temporary, TempFail, the MTA MUST return a 4xx
Return Code (Temporary Error). If the DNS error is an Authoritative
NXdomain (host/domain unknown) the MTA SHOULD still return a 4xx
Return Code (since this may just be primary and secondary DNS not
being in sync) but it MAY allow for an 5xx Return Code (as configured
by the sysadmin).
then by not making the hostname available for A or MX record checking,
Network Solutions, Inc. is foiling other people anti-spam effort, and
causing more administrative burden to administrators at other sites.
I would like to listen to others comments.
Regards,
Chin Fang
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>
> Can qmail be configured to do sender domain verification (as mentioned
> below), ie, reject mail from domains that do not resolve?
>
> Thanks,
> kw
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael T. Babcock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "QMAIL List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: 31 August 2000, Thursday 15:16
> Subject: Sender domain verification ...
>
>
> A quick one ... ?
>
> ... mail is being rejected from one of my clients to one of their partners
> because their mail server is claiming that the sending machine's dns doesn't
> resolve. We aren't authoritative (in the Internet sense ;-) for our subnet
> for our ISP, so we can't easily make it resolve if they're doing reverse DNS
> and checking the host names (which I've seen some mail server software, like
> Imail, do). Logs:
>
> Deferral reasons: (from qmailanalog)
> 22 56.96 Connected to 209.146.143.99 but my name was rejected./Remote
> host said: 504 DNS verification of sending machine failed: no mail will be
> accepted/
>
> [ remaining lines snip-snapped ]
>
>
>
>
>
>
To whomever had originally asked why they no longer get new mail
notification now that they use Maildirs, also take a look at /etc/profile
MHP
The man page for bouncesaying is rather misleading.
bouncesaying feeds each new mail message to program with
the given arguments. If program exits 0, bouncesaying
prints error and bounces the message.
This isn't true so far as I can tell. bouncesaying does not, ever,
actually bounce a message. All it does is exit with status 100 after
printing the error. This then causes qmail-local to bounce the
message. And halts further deliveries.
This is a very significant distinction, because it means that the
following .qmail file doesn't do what the man page says it does:
| bouncesaying "This address no longer accepts mail"
&[EMAIL PROTECTED]
As described by the man page, this should send a bounce message, and
then deliver a copy via the logem alias. But it doesn't; it bounces
it and stops delivering, so nothing is ever delivered via the logem
alias.
Obvsiouly the workaround is to forward to another alias that does the
bounce; multiple forwards will duplicate the message. And that works
fine.
But this cost me a couple of hours hacking last night and today until
I finally figured out what was going on.
Dan, please update the bouncesaying manpage somehow so it correctly
describes the use of the program!
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David Dyer-Bennet / Welcome to the future! / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
David Dyer-Bennet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The man page for bouncesaying is rather misleading.
[...]
> | bouncesaying "This address no longer accepts mail"
> &[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> As described by the man page, this should send a bounce message, and
> then deliver a copy via the logem alias. But it doesn't; it bounces
> it and stops delivering, so nothing is ever delivered via the logem
> alias.
>
> Obvsiouly the workaround is to forward to another alias that does the
> bounce; multiple forwards will duplicate the message. And that works
> fine.
Instead of forwarding, change it to a local delivery instruction, and have
the bouncesaying line second. Then everything will work the way you
wanted.
Charles
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Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 1 September 2000 at 13:35:04
-0600
> David Dyer-Bennet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The man page for bouncesaying is rather misleading.
> [...]
> > | bouncesaying "This address no longer accepts mail"
> > &[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > As described by the man page, this should send a bounce message, and
> > then deliver a copy via the logem alias. But it doesn't; it bounces
> > it and stops delivering, so nothing is ever delivered via the logem
> > alias.
> >
> > Obvsiouly the workaround is to forward to another alias that does the
> > bounce; multiple forwards will duplicate the message. And that works
> > fine.
>
> Instead of forwarding, change it to a local delivery instruction, and have
> the bouncesaying line second. Then everything will work the way you
> wanted.
Hey, that's a particular combination I hadn't thought of. That should
work, indeed. (The funny handling of forwarding is, um, funny. Part
of why it took me a couple hours to figure it all out was that, using
forwrading, the order of the lines *didn't* matter.)
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David Dyer-Bennet / Welcome to the future! / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Audouy Jérôme writes:
> Hi.
>
> I have a user called "Jerome Audouy" his e-mail is
> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" and i want to use an alias like
> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". I try to add it in
> /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-jerome.audouy but it seems that qmail
> doesn't accept the "."
>
> some have a solution for me ?
Yes. Run qmail-lint. http://www.qmail.org/qmail-lint-0.55 . It will
tell you about many misconfigurations.
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i have installed ucspi-tcp and daemontools and my /etc/tcp.smtp
file looks like this:
127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
63.78.138.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
64.113.144.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
10.1.1.:allow, RELAYCLIENT=""
192.168.1.:allow, RELAYCLIENT=""
and i still get the error message that the domain is not in the
rcpthosts file and i AM sending from one of the IPs above.
can you help me with this? inside my rcpthosts file is the
domains that i will accept to send mail, but it's looking at
address of where i'm sending it and not where it's from.
Thanks,
Z
On 01-Sep-2000, Z wrote:
> i have installed ucspi-tcp and daemontools and my /etc/tcp.smtp
> file looks like this:
>
> 127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> 63.78.138.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> 64.113.144.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> 10.1.1.:allow, RELAYCLIENT=""
> 192.168.1.:allow, RELAYCLIENT=""
>
> and i still get the error message that the domain is not in the
> rcpthosts file and i AM sending from one of the IPs above.
Have you rebuild the cdb file with tcprules? How do you start your
smtpd? What does the smtpd log says when you connect?
Ronny
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 03:23:25PM -0500, Ronny Haryanto wrote:
> Have you rebuild the cdb file with tcprules? How do you start your
> smtpd? What does the smtpd log says when you connect?
And: What does your tcpserver command line look like? Have you tried
tcprulescheck?
Ben
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On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Ben Beuchler wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 03:23:25PM -0500, Ronny Haryanto wrote:
>
> > Have you rebuild the cdb file with tcprules? How do you start your
> > smtpd? What does the smtpd log says when you connect?
>
> And: What does your tcpserver command line look like? Have you tried
> tcprulescheck?
>
> Ben
>
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>
i'm getting this....
[root@proxy control]# tcprulescheck /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb
default:
allow connection
[root@proxy control]#
does this mean that it's not working correctly?
i reran:
tcprules /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb /etc/tcp.smtp.tmp < /etc/tcp.smtp
and got:
[root@proxy control]# tcprulescheck /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb
rule :
allow connection
[root@proxy control]#
so what am i missing?
> i'm getting this....
>
> [root@proxy control]# tcprulescheck /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb
> default:
> allow connection
> [root@proxy control]#
>
> does this mean that it's not working correctly?
>
> i reran:
>
> tcprules /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb /etc/tcp.smtp.tmp < /etc/tcp.smtp
>
> and got:
>
> [root@proxy control]# tcprulescheck /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb
> rule :
> allow connection
> [root@proxy control]#
>
> so what am i missing?
Aren't you supposed to specify the IP address you are checking when you
use tcprulescheck?
-Stephen-
Howdy,
I have alot of success with qmail and ezmlm over the years. Last night
qmail and ezmlm sent 76,000 emails, from 12 lists, in four hours.
That's decent, but the server resouces (big bad powerful dual 600's,
1/2gig, 10k LVD-3, raid0 /w 128 cache, 100bt, HOOT HOOT!!) wasn't even
close to be pushed to their limits and it seamed qmail-send was limited
because of the way qmail-queue handle queuing. Let me explain:
A week ago, a user asked me to build a list for their mailing list
becuase their server couldn't handle it and wanted to use my big power
evil qmail server. Last night the user sent messages to the lists "one
after another". It produced 12 file, about 1.6 megs a piece in remote,
one per dir, so conf-split wouldn't help. We all know that qmail
currently handle the queue on a first come, first serve basis. Each of
the lists are sorted by group. Most of the address in a group are to
the same server, but not all addresses. I have no choice in the way
they are grouped because the message for each group/list is uquie for
the group, even tough the majority of the body of the message is the
same. The qmail server was being slowed down by the other guy's
server. Instead of sending to list1, X amount mail to server A, Y
amount to server B, while doing the same for lists 2-12, qmail was going
through the list in an extremely simple and wasteful way: " list1,
message1, done, message2, done... message 20,000, done, list2, message
1.... list12, message1, done.... message 20,000, done".
I believe qmail-queue should be aware of the limits of the other guy's
machine, and thus should not limit qmail-send. Of course, Multi-RCPT
would require *MAJOR* work but getting qmail-queue to understand serverA
can take 20 connections at a time and ServerB can take 50, so keep 20
connection open, deliever 20 message to ServerA while sending 50 to
serverB, and if qmail runs out of new servers for list1, move on to
lists2, or what ever along as the local server is being pushed hard,
wouldn't take too much work, just another process to keep track of the
stats and direct qmail-queue.
Currently it appear the queuing is a limiting power of a powerful qmail
server. Is there anything I can do to better the queuing in qmail? Any
setting changes? Has anyone wrote a patch for qmail-queue to handle
mail at the server level? Is anyone willing to write a patch? How do
other people, handle:
(15,000 messages to one server/domain) * 12
Thanks,
Steven Rice
Reply with flames and lame comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You might want to check the archives to this list which can be find via
www.qmail.org. Your question has been asked, answered, debated and flamed
about many, many times.
Bottom line? Unless you get someone to make the code changes
to qmail - you'll have to live with it or use another MTA.
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 04:44:01PM -0500, Steven Rice wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> wouldn't take too much work, just another process to keep track of the
> stats and direct qmail-queue.
Be our guest. Many have said "it wouldn't take too much work", strangely, few
if any have come up with the goods in the three or so years I have seen this
topic discussed on this list.
Regards.
Hello, all:
I have been trying to do something very, very simple for two days now.
No real luck yet.
I have a user on a machine behind a firewall that has a bogus domain
name - "hotcube"
The prompt looks like this:
[oracle@hotcube oracle] _
I want to send mail using /bin/mail but *change* the "From:" field on
the outgoing mail, since replying to oracle@hotcube (or even
[EMAIL PROTECTED]) is not what I desire; I want the "From" field
to contain the e-mail addresses of our customer service managers - but I
can't go and change the hostname on this box and I can't make an account
with a name identical to the customer service manager's external (email)
userid; there are multiple addresses and the From has to change
depending on the purpose of the sent e-mail.
I have been trying to do this using sendmail, but sendmail is, well, a
beast -- and it only lets you masquerade the domain name. I need to be
able to specify the *username* as well. For example:
Instead of
From: Oracle User <oracle@hotcube>
or
From: Oracle User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I need
From: Grapple-Grommets Customer Service <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I have looked at nmh, and it is a bit more powerful than /bin/mail, but
still, it only seems to let you change the domain name -- it still
insists on using the userid in the e-mail address.
So, to summarize briefly:
Can I use qmail just to transmit outgoing mail, even if I don't have a
proper FQDN configured on the qmail server? I can't have things locking
up...
Are there any good *command-line* mail clients (like /bin/mail or mh or
nmh) that will let me specify the "From:" field? Is there any that would
work with qmail to accomplish this?
I can use a hand here - any help is appreciated.
-Stephen-
Forgive me for an off topic post, but I'm hoping somebody here can point me
in the right direction.
I'm looking for documentation that details how the ESMTP AUTH=LOGIN
mechanism works. There doesn't seem to be an RFC for it, and I haven't had
any luck finding other documentation. The AUTH=LOGIN mechanism is used by a
couple of qmail patches to provide SMTP relay authentication, and a coworker
of mine needs to know how it works so he can write an email client for it.
Thanks!
---Kris Kelley
Hi,
check RFC 2554 (SMTP Service Extension for Authentication).
cheers.
eh.
At 16:57 1.9.2000 -0500, Kris Kelley wrote:
>Forgive me for an off topic post, but I'm hoping somebody here can point me
>in the right direction.
>
>I'm looking for documentation that details how the ESMTP AUTH=LOGIN
>mechanism works. There doesn't seem to be an RFC for it, and I haven't had
>any luck finding other documentation. The AUTH=LOGIN mechanism is used by a
>couple of qmail patches to provide SMTP relay authentication, and a coworker
>of mine needs to know how it works so he can write an email client for it.
>Thanks!
>
>---Kris Kelley
>
>
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Thus said "Bob Ross" on Wed, 30 Aug 2000 23:00:18 PDT:
> Qmail has been getting very slow at responding. I also noticed in the logs
> that it is handling a lot of email that can't be returned(spam.)
What do you mean by "slow at responding?" Do you mean that it takes a
long time for a message that is in the queue to be sent out or do you
mean that it takes a long time for incoming SMTP connections to respond?
Someone already suggested that it might be your auth port being blocked.
If it is not that you might consider verifying that your trigger pipe
is still there. You should have one in /var/qmail/queue/lock that
looks like:
prw--w--w- 1 qmails qmail 0 Sep 1 18:29 trigger
If this is not there then qmail-send will only process the queue every
20 minutes. This is also mentioned in LWQ:
http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#trigger
Andy
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If anyone is using maildrop, I would appreciate a few example of what you
have all managed to do with it. please send them to me so I can compile some
notes.
At the moment I would particularly like to be able to do something like:
if ( test -e somefile )
{
.....
}
Col Wilson
