qmail Digest 24 Oct 2000 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 1163
Topics (messages 50953 through 51003):
Re: SSL POP3
50953 by: Andrzej
50954 by: Frank Tegtmeyer
50966 by: Bruce Guenter
50986 by: David Dyer-Bennet
50987 by: Adam McKenna
50990 by: Chris Johnson
What should i modify to run more than 256 qmail processes ?
50955 by: Nicolas Deslions
50956 by: Vinko Vrsalovic
50957 by: markd.bushwire.net
50965 by: Nicolas Deslions
50967 by: Sean Reifschneider
50968 by: Nicolas Deslions
50989 by: Sean Reifschneider
Re: Compiling under Mandrake 7.1
50958 by: Peter Green
50969 by: Roger Walker
50970 by: Roger Walker
SMTP Issues
50959 by: Rob Hines Jr.
50960 by: markd.bushwire.net
50961 by: Charles Cazabon
50962 by: Petr Novotny
50964 by: Rob Hines Jr.
50974 by: Vinko Vrsalovic
Alias - for mailing lists
50963 by: ROD
Why is an alias not working?
50971 by: Jennifer Franklin
50972 by: Vince Vielhaber
50973 by: Dave Sill
Re: system v style init script for svscan
50975 by: Chin Fang
50978 by: Dave Sill
Maildir-Aware /bin/mail Replacement?
50976 by: Kai MacTane
50980 by: Charles Cazabon
50981 by: Kai MacTane
50982 by: Charles Cazabon
50983 by: Todd Underwood
50985 by: Kai MacTane
[off-topic] Announcement: minit mailing list created
50977 by: Felix von Leitner
Re: local mail system should be only locally
50979 by: Alexander Jernejcic
maildrop filtering
50984 by: Brice Ruth
Re: RBL
50988 by: Dave Gresham
qmail-smtpd startup command
50991 by: Aaron Newcomb
50992 by: Chris Johnson
50993 by: Aaron Newcomb
How to ignore .qmail-* files for given users?
50994 by: John Chronakis
50995 by: Austad, Jay
any comment on this line
50996 by: Yamin Prabudy
50997 by: Brett Randall
50998 by: Andy Bradford
SpamKiller - a /interesting/ product
50999 by: Brett Randall
51000 by: Robin S. Socha
51001 by: Brett Randall
qmail not receiving mails....
51002 by: Nelson Chan
QMAILQUEUE patch - how to apply?
51003 by: Milen Petrinski
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On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 04:59:52PM -0400, Hubbard, David wrote:
> You can use stunnel to encapsulate qmail-pop3d withing SSL.
[...]
stunnel and other SSL wrappers work great, but then qmail sees all
connections incoming from localhost. It's not possible to use the "POP3
before SMTP" relay controls any more.
In some cases SMTP AUTH is helpful, but not all SMTP clients can do AUTH.
Or is there any way to use an SSL wrapper and still know which IP can
realy?
Andrzej
> Or is there any way to use an SSL wrapper and still know which IP can
> realy?
I think it's possible with tcpserver/stunnel. But I never tried it.
Regards, Frank
On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 01:59:20PM +0200, Andrzej wrote:
> stunnel and other SSL wrappers work great, but then qmail sees all
> connections incoming from localhost. It's not possible to use the "POP3
> before SMTP" relay controls any more.
Nope. With both stunnel and sslwrap you can (and should) run the target
program directly from the wrapper program.
The sslwrap documentation states:
Instead of doing a loopback IP connection as described above,
you can use the -exec option to directly execute a program. For
security reasons, I recommend using the standard inetd
configuration specified above, instead.
I queried the author about why he felt that doing loopback IP
connections was more secure than just exec'ing the program directly, and
received no response. I know of no reason it would be more secure, and
it prevents you from doing things like relay-ctrl as well.
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Andrzej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 23 October 2000 at 13:59:20 +0200
> On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 04:59:52PM -0400, Hubbard, David wrote:
> > You can use stunnel to encapsulate qmail-pop3d withing SSL.
>
> [...]
>
> stunnel and other SSL wrappers work great, but then qmail sees all
> connections incoming from localhost. It's not possible to use the "POP3
> before SMTP" relay controls any more.
Am I missing something here, or will allowing relaying from localhost
solve the problem? Assuming you want to allow relaying for anybody
allowed to establish an ssl connect to do pop, anyway.
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On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 04:58:05PM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
> Andrzej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 23 October 2000 at 13:59:20 +0200
> > On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 04:59:52PM -0400, Hubbard, David wrote:
> > > You can use stunnel to encapsulate qmail-pop3d withing SSL.
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > stunnel and other SSL wrappers work great, but then qmail sees all
> > connections incoming from localhost. It's not possible to use the "POP3
> > before SMTP" relay controls any more.
>
> Am I missing something here, or will allowing relaying from localhost
> solve the problem? Assuming you want to allow relaying for anybody
> allowed to establish an ssl connect to do pop, anyway.
The problem is that when using SSL-SMTP, every connection looks like its
coming from localhost, so your relay control is gone.
The best you can do is control who you want connecting to the SSL port.
I think that the reason the author recommends running thru ined (I use
tcpserver myself) is that he doesn't consider the program secure enough to
run as root.
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On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 09:06:35AM -0600, Bruce Guenter wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 01:59:20PM +0200, Andrzej wrote:
> > stunnel and other SSL wrappers work great, but then qmail sees all
> > connections incoming from localhost. It's not possible to use the "POP3
> > before SMTP" relay controls any more.
>
> Nope. With both stunnel and sslwrap you can (and should) run the target
> program directly from the wrapper program.
>
> The sslwrap documentation states:
> Instead of doing a loopback IP connection as described above,
> you can use the -exec option to directly execute a program. For
> security reasons, I recommend using the standard inetd
> configuration specified above, instead.
> I queried the author about why he felt that doing loopback IP
> connections was more secure than just exec'ing the program directly, and
> received no response. I know of no reason it would be more secure, and
> it prevents you from doing things like relay-ctrl as well.
If you ran qmail-popup directly from sslwrap, you'd have to run sslwrap as
root. I do the loopback connection thing and I can run sslwrap as the user
"sslwrap," which has regular user permissions.
Chris
Hi,
I want to run a "big" smtp server... with nearly 400 processes running
Some ppl told me that i would have to modify "files handles" or "max
processes".
Anyone can tell me more about that ?
Thx
Nicolas Deslions
System, network and security admin
Net2one.com, France
20 rue du Sentier 75002 Paris
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>
> Hi,
>
> I want to run a "big" smtp server... with nearly 400 processes running
> Some ppl told me that i would have to modify "files handles" or "max
> processes".
> Anyone can tell me more about that ?
yes, http://www.qmail.org/top.html#large can tell you about it.
HTH,
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On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 09:08:38AM -0300, Vinko Vrsalovic wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I want to run a "big" smtp server... with nearly 400 processes running
> > Some ppl told me that i would have to modify "files handles" or "max
> > processes".
> > Anyone can tell me more about that ?
>
> yes, http://www.qmail.org/top.html#large can tell you about it.
But first you want to make sure you need to do this. By the sounds you
are relatively new to qmail. What makes you think that you need "400
processes"? Second: you didn't say which processes you want 400 of?
Regards.
ok so i give you more infos :
i want to launch a lot of qmail-remote processes , we handle a lot of
outgoing mails here, atm around 150.000/day but it will be more very soon.
I want to send all those mails within 2 hours.
I already looked at http://www.qmail.org/top.html#large but i don't find it
really easy to read and it's not speaking about the kern.maxfiles etc...
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À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet : Re: What should i modify to run more than 256 qmail processes ?
On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 09:08:38AM -0300, Vinko Vrsalovic wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I want to run a "big" smtp server... with nearly 400 processes running
> > Some ppl told me that i would have to modify "files handles" or "max
> > processes".
> > Anyone can tell me more about that ?
>
> yes, http://www.qmail.org/top.html#large can tell you about it.
But first you want to make sure you need to do this. By the sounds you
are relatively new to qmail. What makes you think that you need "400
processes"? Second: you didn't say which processes you want 400 of?
Regards.
On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 05:03:21PM +0200, Nicolas Deslions wrote:
>i want to launch a lot of qmail-remote processes , we handle a lot of
>outgoing mails here, atm around 150.000/day but it will be more very soon.
>I want to send all those mails within 2 hours.
Are these unique messages, or are you using a boatload of recipients on
a single message? In the former case, you'll be pushing it to get 75,000
individual messages injected into the queue per hour on a single machine.
That's about the max I'd expect you to be able to process without going
to multiple machines though.
Sean
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yup unique messages.
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Envoyé : Monday, October 23, 2000 17:40
À : Nicolas Deslions
Cc : [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet : Re: What should i modify to run more than 256 qmail processes ?
On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 05:03:21PM +0200, Nicolas Deslions wrote:
>i want to launch a lot of qmail-remote processes , we handle a lot of
>outgoing mails here, atm around 150.000/day but it will be more very soon.
>I want to send all those mails within 2 hours.
Are these unique messages, or are you using a boatload of recipients on
a single message? In the former case, you'll be pushing it to get 75,000
individual messages injected into the queue per hour on a single machine.
That's about the max I'd expect you to be able to process without going
to multiple machines though.
Sean
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On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 05:42:59PM +0200, Nicolas Deslions wrote:
>yup unique messages.
The most unique messages I've been able to deal with on a single machine
has been between 75,000 and 90,000 per hour. At the minimum you'll
probably want the big-todo patches and inject a bunch of messages, then
pause waiting for them to be processed. If you grow much,
expect to have to throw more hardware at the problem, or expect it to
take more than 2 hours.
Sean
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also sprach micha:
> On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Roger Walker wrote:
> > > Reading the error message closely reveals that asm/sigcontext.h is
> > > included from signal.h. asm/sigcontext.h is probably part of the kernel
> > > include files. Do you have those installed?
> >
> > On both systems I have the kernel source installed (in the case of
That really isn't what he asked. He asked about the kernel *include* files,
aka kernel-headers-*.rpm. Do this:
rpm -qa|grep kernel> kernel-rpms
on both a machine that ``works'' and one that doesn't, and diff(1) the
files.
> hmmm....
>
> here is the output of a locate on my mandrake7.1
> [root@enterprise]# locate sigcontext.h
> /usr/include/bits/sigcontext.h
> /usr/src/linux-2.2.15/include/asm-i386/sigcontext.h
> /usr/i586-glibc20-linux/include/sigcontext.h
On RedHat (but you get the idea...):
(pcg@micah) ~> locate sigcontext.h
/usr/include/asm/sigcontext.h
/usr/include/bits/sigcontext.h
[...]
(pcg@micah) ~> rpm -qf /usr/include/asm/sigcontext.h
kernel-headers-2.4.0-0.21
My guess is that's what you're looking for. Even if you already have it
installed, install it again (with --force if you have to) to recreate the
necessary symlinks.
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On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Michael Hufnagl wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Roger Walker wrote:
> > > Reading the error message closely reveals that asm/sigcontext.h is
> > > included from signal.h. asm/sigcontext.h is probably part of the kernel
> > > include files. Do you have those installed?
> >
> > On both systems I have the kernel source installed (in the case of
> > 7.1, I have 2.2.17, but on the 6.x system, it would be 2.2.14). As I
> > indicated, that file does not appear on either system, yet it compiled on
> > the earlier Mandrake system...
>
> hmmm....
>
> here is the output of a locate on my mandrake7.1
> [root@enterprise]# locate sigcontext.h
> /usr/include/bits/sigcontext.h
> /usr/src/linux-2.2.15/include/asm-i386/sigcontext.h
> /usr/i586-glibc20-linux/include/sigcontext.h
I should have been more specific :-/
The following exist on both systems. "/usr/src/linux" is a
symbolic link, in each case, to the appropriate kernel source tree.
/usr/src/linux/include/asm-i386/sigcontext.h
/usr/src/linux/include/asm -> asm-i386/
/usr/include/asm -> ../src/linux/include/asm/
So, regarding "sig_alarm.c" and "sigcontext.h", both systems are
set up identically. Both systems are using qmail 1.03. The Mandrake 7.1
system gives me this error on compile:
./compile sig_alarm.c In file included from /usr/include/signal.h:300,
from sig_alarm.c:1: /usr/include/bits/sigcontext.h:28:
asm/sigcontext.h: No such file or directory
make: *** [sig_alarm.o] Error 1
Here's my suspicion: Mandrake tends to "customize" lots of things,
including the kernel source and even, I've heard, the ext2 filesystem. I
am actually using the stock 7.1 kernel. I'll compile a new one from the
2.2.17 virgin source tree and see if that makes a difference.
I know that the file does exist at the correct path, in the same
way on both systems. For whatever reason, it appears that on the 7.1
system, the multiple links are not being followed to the end.
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On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Peter Green wrote:
> (pcg@micah) ~> rpm -qf /usr/include/asm/sigcontext.h
> kernel-headers-2.4.0-0.21
>
> My guess is that's what you're looking for. Even if you already have it
> installed, install it again (with --force if you have to) to recreate the
> necessary symlinks.
Looks like I spoke too soon. In my previous message (after yours
but before I responded to this one) I outlined all of the linked
directories on both systems. I thought I was thorough, but I was not :-(
The rpm command above indicated that the file was missing, so I traced
through each link. I found that in the /usr/src/linux/include directory,
the "asm" link to "asm-i386" was actually missing.
After adding the link (not sure why it was missing), qmail
compiles (make setup check) properly. Thanks, all, for helping me through
this.
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I emailed a little while back asking for some help on sending out large
batches of mail. I have since then, completely rebuilt my mail server,
implementing the big todo patch, and large mail fixes as well as Krzysztof
Dabrowski's SMTP_AUTH patch.
I run everything through supervise using the scripts from the qmail site, and
other than the aformentioned modifications, nothing has been changed.
I am on a Sun Ultra Enterprise 2 with dual 200 processors and 1.2G of main
memory, qpopper works great, and there are few problems with users in the
office. The critical problem is that NO ONE can connect to SMTP from dialup.
They uniformly get messages saying that the server was not responding.
I tried telnetting to port 25 and waited the better part of 30 seconds before
I got an SMTP prompt. If this is happening to my remote users, then this is
the reason for the no response errors. I would appreciate any suggestions on
how I could fix this.
BTW, I /have/ to use smtp_auth because of the nature of my user base.
Please let me know.
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On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 09:41:43AM -0500, Rob Hines Jr. wrote:
> I tried telnetting to port 25 and waited the better part of 30 seconds before
> I got an SMTP prompt. If this is happening to my remote users, then this is
> the reason for the no response errors. I would appreciate any suggestions on
> how I could fix this.
This question has been asked many, many times.
What are you running qmail-smtpd with? inetd, tcpserver, xinetd?
Assuming tcpserver, what options are you using?
Regards.
Rob Hines Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I am on a Sun Ultra Enterprise 2 with dual 200 processors and 1.2G of main
> memory, qpopper works great, and there are few problems with users in the
> office. The critical problem is that NO ONE can connect to SMTP from dialup.
> They uniformly get messages saying that the server was not responding.
>
> I tried telnetting to port 25 and waited the better part of 30 seconds before
> I got an SMTP prompt.
Read the man page for tcpserver, and observe especially the bits about the
-H and -R options.
Charles
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On 23 Oct 2000, at 9:41, Rob Hines Jr. wrote:
> I tried telnetting to port 25 and waited the better part of 30 seconds
> before I got an SMTP prompt. If this is happening to my remote users,
> then this is the reason for the no response errors. I would appreciate
> any suggestions on how I could fix this.
If it's close to 26 seconds, it looks like ident lookups time out. Try
to add -R option to tcpserver.
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Ugh, sorry:
[9:56am] rhines@mail:/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd> more run
#!/bin/sh
QMAILDUID=`/usr/xpg4/bin/id -u qmaild`
NOFILESGID=`/usr/xpg4/bin/id -g qmaild`
MAXSMTPD=`cat /var/qmail/control/concurrencyincoming`
exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 4000000 \
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -p -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -c "$MAXSMTPD" \
-u "$QMAILDUID" -g "$NOFILESGID" 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd /bin
/checkpassword /bin/true 2>&1
[9:56am] rhines@mail:/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd>
My concurrencyincoming value is set to 50.
Rob
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 09:41:43AM -0500, Rob Hines Jr. wrote:
>
> > I tried telnetting to port 25 and waited the better part of 30 seconds before
> > I got an SMTP prompt. If this is happening to my remote users, then this is
> > the reason for the no response errors. I would appreciate any suggestions on
> > how I could fix this.
>
> This question has been asked many, many times.
>
> What are you running qmail-smtpd with? inetd, tcpserver, xinetd?
>
> Assuming tcpserver, what options are you using?
>
> Regards.
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>
> Ugh, sorry:
>
> [9:56am] rhines@mail:/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd> more run
> #!/bin/sh
> QMAILDUID=`/usr/xpg4/bin/id -u qmaild`
> NOFILESGID=`/usr/xpg4/bin/id -g qmaild`
> MAXSMTPD=`cat /var/qmail/control/concurrencyincoming`
> exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 4000000 \
> /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -p -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -c "$MAXSMTPD" \
> -u "$QMAILDUID" -g "$NOFILESGID" 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd /bin
> /checkpassword /bin/true 2>&1
> [9:56am] rhines@mail:/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd>
>
> My concurrencyincoming value is set to 50.
>
> Rob
>
adding -l 0 to the commmand options for tcpserver worked for me
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I'm trying to set up aliases for mailings lists
e.g.
All mailing lists are created under one user ezmlm
so both the addressess need to be directed by domain name to
the correct list.
Any help would be appreciated
Best regards
Rod
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I have set up Postgres on our server and under /var/qmail/alias i placed a
.qmail-postgres (the user account for postgreSQL is postgres), I then
forward all mail to postgres to root
.qmail-postgres contains
&root
all root mail is aliased to our two system administrators.
When I checked the alias by sending mail to postgres and checked
/var/mail/mail.log I see the following entry:
Oct 23 13:19:09 tuwanda qmail: 972321549.021134 status: local 0/10 remote
0/20
Oct 23 13:21:42 tuwanda qmail: 972321702.016694 starting delivery
1084: msg 231 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oct 23
13:21:42 tuwanda qmail: 972321702.016776 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
Oct 23 13:21:42 tuwanda qmail: 972321702.021020 delivery
1084: deferral: Unable_to_chdir_to_maildir._(#4.2.1)/
If I have aliased the postgres account why is it trying to change to the
postgres maildir (there is none since I don't want mail being delivered to
the postgres account.
If anyone could help me on this I would really appreciate it.
Please email me directly since I am not subscribed to the qmail mailing
list the volume of mail received is just too high for me.
Thanks very much,
Jen
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Labour Operations Applications Development
Human Resources Development Canada
On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Jennifer Franklin wrote:
> I have set up Postgres on our server and under /var/qmail/alias i placed a
> .qmail-postgres (the user account for postgreSQL is postgres), I then
> forward all mail to postgres to root
>
> .qmail-postgres contains
> &root
>
> all root mail is aliased to our two system administrators.
>
> When I checked the alias by sending mail to postgres and checked
> /var/mail/mail.log I see the following entry:
>
> Oct 23 13:19:09 tuwanda qmail: 972321549.021134 status: local 0/10 remote
> 0/20
> Oct 23 13:21:42 tuwanda qmail: 972321702.016694 starting delivery
> 1084: msg 231 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Oct 23
> 13:21:42 tuwanda qmail: 972321702.016776 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
> Oct 23 13:21:42 tuwanda qmail: 972321702.021020 delivery
> 1084: deferral: Unable_to_chdir_to_maildir._(#4.2.1)/
>
> If I have aliased the postgres account why is it trying to change to the
> postgres maildir (there is none since I don't want mail being delivered to
> the postgres account.
>
> If anyone could help me on this I would really appreciate it.
> Please email me directly since I am not subscribed to the qmail mailing
> list the volume of mail received is just too high for me.
The user postgres is a real user. Move ~alias/.qmail-postgres to ~postgres
Vince.
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Jennifer Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have set up Postgres on our server and under /var/qmail/alias i placed a
>.qmail-postgres (the user account for postgreSQL is postgres), I then
>forward all mail to postgres to root
>
>.qmail-postgres contains
>&root
>
>all root mail is aliased to our two system administrators.
Users override aliases. Try moving ~alias/.qmail-postgres to
~postgres/.qmail. Or use qmail-users to override the user.
-Dave
> > "Have you looked at LWQ?" its practically a FAQ.
>
> Please excuse my ignorance, but: what is LWQ?
>
> Linux World headQuarter? ;-)
Nope. He most likely meant Dave Sill's "life with qmail".
Regards,
Chin Fang
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> Felix
>
Chin Fang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > "Have you looked at LWQ?" its practically a FAQ.
>>
>> Please excuse my ignorance, but: what is LWQ?
>>
>> Linux World headQuarter? ;-)
>
>Nope. He most likely meant Dave Sill's "life with qmail".
Check this out:
http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?Acronym=lwq&Find=Find&String=exact
-Dave
Hello. Does anyone know of a Maildir-aware replacement for /bin/mail, or a
patch that will give it Maildir awareness? I've looked at qail, but that
seems to be a simple shell script that runs maildir2mbox on the user's
Maildir and then runs /bin/mail (and then doesn't put messages back into
Maildir format!). This is an unacceptably clunky solution, and one that
really isn't a total solution anyway, considering the problem.
The problem, really, is that I'd like to allow users to check their mail on
the command line (after ssh-ing in) and/or by POP3. Unfortunately, users
familiar with the command line have a tendency to log in and type "mail" to
see if they have any mail. And a non-Maildir-aware /bin/mail then claims
they have none, ignoring the dozens of files in ~/Maildir/new.
I have looked on the Qmail site for any such thing, and found nothing. Are
there no Maildir patches or replacements for /bin/mail? It seems that such
a common utility *should* have a Maildir-capable version. (I cannot write
it myself, as I have just barely enough knowledge of C to write a 'Hello,
World!" program.)
--Kai MacTane
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"Playing dead and sweet submission,
Cracks the whip deadpan on cue."
--Siouxsie and the
Banshees,
"Peek-a-boo"
Kai MacTane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The problem, really, is that I'd like to allow users to check their mail on
> the command line (after ssh-ing in) and/or by POP3. Unfortunately, users
> familiar with the command line have a tendency to log in and type "mail" to
> see if they have any mail. And a non-Maildir-aware /bin/mail then claims
> they have none, ignoring the dozens of files in ~/Maildir/new.
Make bin/mail a script something like:
#!/bin/bash
mutt -z -f ~/Maildir/
See www.mutt.org for mutt.
Charles
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At 10/23/00 12:33 PM , Charles Cazabon wrote:
>Make bin/mail a script something like:
>
> #!/bin/bash
> mutt -z -f ~/Maildir/
>
>See www.mutt.org for mutt.
Looked at the mutt documentation, and I already have mutt on my system, so
this isn't hard. Looks like a good idea. But when I try it on a user that
has no mail, mutt starts anyway (and shows "[Msgs:0]" in the status bar).
This is apparently not the behavior that should occur, given the docs on
the -z switch.
Any idea what's going on there?
--Kai MacTane
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"I think that somehow/Somewhere inside of us,
We must be similar/If not the same."
--Suzanne Vega,
"Left of Center"
Kai MacTane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Looked at the mutt documentation, and I already have mutt on my system, so
> this isn't hard. Looks like a good idea. But when I try it on a user that
> has no mail, mutt starts anyway (and shows "[Msgs:0]" in the status bar).
> This is apparently not the behavior that should occur, given the docs on
> the -z switch.
>
> Any idea what's going on there?
Not really; it could be a mutt bug, as mutt evolves at a rapid pace. You
could try using mutt -Z instead of what I suggested earlier.
Charles
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kai,
why not just use procmail? many people use procmail as a sendmail local
delivery agent anyway (security be damned! you're running sendmail anyway
so how much could you possibly care?). procmail talks native maildirs for
some time now.
Todd Underwood
Chief Technology Officer
Oso Grande Technologies, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Kai MacTane wrote:
> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:19:53 -0700
> From: Kai MacTane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Maildir-Aware /bin/mail Replacement?
>
> Hello. Does anyone know of a Maildir-aware replacement for /bin/mail, or a
> patch that will give it Maildir awareness? I've looked at qail, but that
> seems to be a simple shell script that runs maildir2mbox on the user's
> Maildir and then runs /bin/mail (and then doesn't put messages back into
> Maildir format!). This is an unacceptably clunky solution, and one that
> really isn't a total solution anyway, considering the problem.
>
> The problem, really, is that I'd like to allow users to check their mail on
> the command line (after ssh-ing in) and/or by POP3. Unfortunately, users
> familiar with the command line have a tendency to log in and type "mail" to
> see if they have any mail. And a non-Maildir-aware /bin/mail then claims
> they have none, ignoring the dozens of files in ~/Maildir/new.
>
> I have looked on the Qmail site for any such thing, and found nothing. Are
> there no Maildir patches or replacements for /bin/mail? It seems that such
> a common utility *should* have a Maildir-capable version. (I cannot write
> it myself, as I have just barely enough knowledge of C to write a 'Hello,
> World!" program.)
>
> --Kai MacTane
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> "Playing dead and sweet submission,
> Cracks the whip deadpan on cue."
> --Siouxsie and the
> Banshees,
> "Peek-a-boo"
>
>
At 10/23/00 12:59 PM , Todd Underwood wrote:
>why not just use procmail? many people use procmail as a sendmail local
>delivery agent anyway (security be damned! you're running sendmail anyway
>so how much could you possibly care?). procmail talks native maildirs for
>some time now.
Not very familiar with it (on a user or admin basis; I've certainly heard
of it). Your mention of "security be damned! you're running sendmail anyway
so how much could you possibly care?" doesn't do wonders for my state of
mind, though! I can see how it wouldn't be a problem for those running
sendmail, but I'm running qmail, and would rather not blow a massive hole
in my security.
What are the security problems with it? And will using it allow my shell
users to type "mail" and either get a "no new mail" message or show them
the contents of their mailbox if they do have something?
--Kai MacTane
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"This trembling, adored,
Tousled bird mad girl..."
--The Cure,
"Burn"
I created a mailing list for discussions about my planned init system,
minit (the name is not final yet. Maybe someone comes up with a better
one?).
So, if you were waiting for a place to voice your wishes for a small yet
feature-complete init system, please send an empty email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(yes, it's managed by ezmlm).
I will create a web page about the project at http://www.fefe.de/minit/
soon.
Please don't follow-up to this email. Thanks.
Felix
hi,
this seems is easy if the users are not on the box itself:
put your domain in rcpthosts and do NOT set up tcp.smtp .
your qmail box will deny any attempt to relay -
which means in fact not to send mail to other MTA's
;) a
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I am a Signature, not a Virus!
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sebastian Wolfgarten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 10:31 PM
> To: qmail liste
> Subject: local mail system should be only locally
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have got a working mail system here with some
> local users which is used to send mail between
> the users in an intranet. It works pretty fine,
> but now I have got a question: I don't want the
> local users to be able to send to any other host
> than this one here (intranet.mynetwork.com).
> How can I do this?
>
> Bye
> Sebastian
>
>
Greetings.
Just wondering if this is how its supposed to work (couldn't find enough
docs on it...):
Setup: using qmail & vpopmail, compiled maildrop to use uid: vpopmail,
gid: vchkpw
Went into /var/vpopmail/domains/<domain>/<user>/ and did
chmod +t `pwd`
then created .qmail file with contents:
| /usr/local/bin/maildrop ./.mailfilter
created .mailfilter in same directory with contents:
if (!( /^From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ) || ( /^From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ))
to ./Maildir/
chmod vpopmail:vchkpw .qmail .mailfilter
Yes? No? Totally off kilter?? Lemme know, please ...
Regards,
Brice Ruth
Not sure about anyone else, however this is about the 30th time I have
received
this message.
dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Sill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 8:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RBL
Mike Jimenez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>First I did this setup and it did not work .
>tcpserver -p -v -x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u1007 -g1007 0 25 \
>rblsmtpd qmail-smtpd 2>&1 | setuser qmaill accustamp | \
>setuser qmaill cyclog \
>-s1000000 -n5 /var/log/qmail/qmail-smtpd
>
>[root@black(/var/log)]: smstart
>[x] starting: qmail-pop3, /etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail: setuser: command
>not found
>/etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail: setuser: command not found
accustamp, setuser, and cyclog are from an older version of
daemontools. You should read the documentation for the current version
of daemontools[1] and convert your script to the new commands
setuidgid and multilog. LWQ's example[2] might help.
-Dave
Footnotes:
[1] http://cr.yp.to/daemontools.html
[2] http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#rblsmtpd
Here is my startup command for qmail-smtpd.
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -p -v \
-u 502 -g 501 0 smtp rblsmtpd rblsmtpd -b -rrelays.msci.memphis.edu \
recordio /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd \
2>&1 | /var/qmail/bin/splogger smtpd 3 &
It works great from the command line, but when I put it inside a script that
gets run at boot up like rc.local I get weird responses from it in my syslog
like . . .
>Oct 10 18:28:03 linux1 smtpd: 971216883.913493 tcpserver: status: 1/40
>Oct 10 18:28:03 linux1 smtpd: 971216883.915419 tcpserver: pid 767 from
211.39.130.218
>Oct 10 18:28:06 linux1 smtpd: 971216886.047055 tcpserver: ok 767
ns1.newcombnet.com:216.68.217.202:25 :211.39.130.218:root:24385
>Oct 10 18:28:06 linux1 smtpd: 971216886.048430 tcpserver: warning: dropping
connection, unable to run recordio: file does not exist
>Oct 10 18:28:06 linux1 smtpd: 971216886.049547 tcpserver: end 767 status
28416
>Oct 10 18:28:06 linux1 smtpd: 971216886.050495 tcpserver: status: 0/40
Any suggestions on how to get my startup command to run correctly on boot
up??
Thanks,
Aaron Newcomb
http://www.newcombnet.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 09:39:58PM -0400, Aaron Newcomb wrote:
> Here is my startup command for qmail-smtpd.
>
> /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -p -v \
> -u 502 -g 501 0 smtp rblsmtpd rblsmtpd -b -rrelays.msci.memphis.edu \
> recordio /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd \
> 2>&1 | /var/qmail/bin/splogger smtpd 3 &
>
> It works great from the command line, but when I put it inside a script that
> gets run at boot up like rc.local I get weird responses from it in my syslog
> like . . .
>
> >Oct 10 18:28:03 linux1 smtpd: 971216883.913493 tcpserver: status: 1/40
> >Oct 10 18:28:03 linux1 smtpd: 971216883.915419 tcpserver: pid 767 from
> 211.39.130.218
> >Oct 10 18:28:06 linux1 smtpd: 971216886.047055 tcpserver: ok 767
> ns1.newcombnet.com:216.68.217.202:25 :211.39.130.218:root:24385
> >Oct 10 18:28:06 linux1 smtpd: 971216886.048430 tcpserver: warning: dropping
> connection, unable to run recordio: file does not exist
/usr/local/bin isn't in your path when the script is run at startup. Either
make sure it is in your path, or specify the full path to recordio in your
script.
Chris
How do I make sure it is in my path? I am assuming this could affect
rblsmtpd as well.
Aaron
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 10:03 PM
To: Aaron Newcomb
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: qmail-smtpd startup command
On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 09:39:58PM -0400, Aaron Newcomb wrote:
> Here is my startup command for qmail-smtpd.
>
> /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -p -v \
> -u 502 -g 501 0 smtp rblsmtpd rblsmtpd -b -rrelays.msci.memphis.edu \
> recordio /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd \
> 2>&1 | /var/qmail/bin/splogger smtpd 3 &
>
> It works great from the command line, but when I put it inside a script
that
> gets run at boot up like rc.local I get weird responses from it in my
syslog
> like . . .
>
> >Oct 10 18:28:03 linux1 smtpd: 971216883.913493 tcpserver: status: 1/40
> >Oct 10 18:28:03 linux1 smtpd: 971216883.915419 tcpserver: pid 767 from
> 211.39.130.218
> >Oct 10 18:28:06 linux1 smtpd: 971216886.047055 tcpserver: ok 767
> ns1.newcombnet.com:216.68.217.202:25 :211.39.130.218:root:24385
> >Oct 10 18:28:06 linux1 smtpd: 971216886.048430 tcpserver: warning:
dropping
> connection, unable to run recordio: file does not exist
/usr/local/bin isn't in your path when the script is run at startup. Either
make sure it is in your path, or specify the full path to recordio in your
script.
Chris
Hello,
I would like to prevent users with ftp access to change the
delivery instructions for qmail.
To be more specific, I want some users not to be able to receive mail at all
(they all bellong to the same group) and others not be able to change
delivery instruction by creating their own dot-qmail files via ftp
(they all belong to another group).
I suppose that this is controled by QMAILHOME/users/assign,
but the man page is not very helpful.
Can anyone help?
John
If you're using wu-ftpd or some derivative of, you should be able to do this
in the /etc/ftpaccess file. Do a 'man ftpaccess' for the correct syntax.
Jay
-----Original Message-----
From: John Chronakis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 9:55 PM
To: qmail-list
Subject: How to ignore .qmail-* files for given users?
Hello,
I would like to prevent users with ftp access to change the
delivery instructions for qmail.
To be more specific, I want some users not to be able to receive mail at all
(they all bellong to the same group) and others not be able to change
delivery instruction by creating their own dot-qmail files via ftp
(they all belong to another group).
I suppose that this is controled by QMAILHOME/users/assign,
but the man page is not very helpful.
Can anyone help?
John
My friend forwad it to me from http://www.orbs.org/otherresource.html
a.. Qmail admins: Qmail's current version is insecure by default. Most
admins know enough to follow the instructions for securing it before putting
qmail into service, however it usually drops ORBS test messages checking for
UUCP pathing vulnerabilities - "! pathing" - into the admin mailbox. As ! is
a standard network addressing indicator, this can only be charitably
described as yet another Qmail bug. Qmail is extremely network unfriendly
and has been known to cause effective denial of service attacks on other
mailservers in its enthusiasm to deliver as many messages as possible in a
short period of time. For this reason it is best reserved for mailing list
server purposes only.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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I need to know the real stuff cause I'm going to build and email server
using qmail for an ISP
Thanks all for the comment
>>>>> "Yamin" == Yamin Prabudy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
<snipped everything>
Please read the archives or we may have to shoot you. They are there
for a reason.
http://www-archive.ornl.gov:8000/
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in his grave if he knew about it."
- The Chartered Institution of C Programmers
Thus said "Yamin Prabudy" on Tue, 24 Oct 2000 13:31:42 +0700:
> My friend forwad it to me from http://www.orbs.org/otherresource.html
The URL is actually:
http://www.orbs.org/otherresources.html
I suggest you read it and then take your pick which you want to use...
When qmail is configured properly you will have no problems just as the
blurb says, however, it can produce bad results just like any other piece
of misconfigured software. If you follow the directions for
installation at http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html you shouldn't
have any problems. Tell your friend he is misinformed...
Andy
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http://spamkiller.com/
I personally haven't used it, and don't ever plan to, but if you have
Windows employees/clients who are receiving spam, this may be a
solution for you. Acting as your POP3/MAPI (typo perhaps? That's what
their homepage says, unless it is refering to Microsoft Mail, in which
case where would you get spam from?) checker, it filters out spam mail
based on a custom ruleset which is constantly updated, and then passes
it to your mail client.
Configured with the ability to manually send a complaint back to the
sender, or the postmaster/abuse account there, it could serve as a
good tool for your staff, if you don't want complaints about mail
going missing because of your RBL setup.
Its not free, I haven't tried it, I don't want flames about it, I'm
not involved in any way with it, this is just an addition to past
threads about spam eradication.
--
"Hitting your modem with an aluminum baseball bat is only going to get
you electrocuted. Try a wooden one."
- Lynn Marshall
* Brett Randall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001024 03:17]:
> http://spamkiller.com/ I personally haven't used it, and don't ever
> plan to, but if you have Windows employees/clients who are receiving
> spam, this may be a solution for you.
"As new filter sets are made available by Novasoft, they are
automatically downloaded and installed on your computer." WTF? I don't
want some American company censor my mail. And BTW: "The automatic
online update feature is only available to registered users."
> Configured with the ability to manually send a complaint back to the
> sender, or the postmaster/abuse account there, it could serve as a
> good tool for your staff, if you don't want complaints about mail
> going missing because of your RBL setup.
Brett, this is stupid. Give the fact that in 99% of all cases (the
missing percent comprising Mac and Unix users) staff==sheep, this thing
is every admin's nightmare. Not to mention the fact that it requires
opening a hole in your firewall (ftp?) to an unknown site. No way.
> Its not free,
I don't care if it's free. It's closed source censorware.
> I haven't tried it,
... but your girlfriends 65year-old little sister works for the
company...
> I don't want flames about it,
Ooops...
> I'm not involved in any way with it, this is just an addition to past
> threads about spam eradication.
It's stupid. Trying to solve server problems on the desktop of a
lifeform with the technical abilities of an amoeba is futile.
--
If you are too low a lifeform to be able to learn how to use the
manual page subsystem, why should we help you?
(Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
>>>>> "Robin" == Robin S Socha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Robin> It's stupid. Trying to solve server problems on the desktop of a
Robin> lifeform with the technical abilities of an amoeba is futile.
This type of answer is all I was after - opinions on it :) BTW I have
to know, where do you come up with these metaphors from?
--
"Microsoft Works."
- Oxymoron
Hi
I am a newbie to qmail. I followed the instructions in the INSTALL file and
successfully compiled and install qmail. I can send out emails but cannot
receive any mails from outside. I checked the FAQ and could not find any
hint.
Here is the error message:
Reporting-MTA: dns;mail.hotmail.com
Received-From-MTA: dns;mail.hotmail.com
Arrival-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 23:00:24 -0700
Final-Recipient: rfc822;[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Action: failed
Status: 5.0.0
Diagnostic-Code: smtp;553 To send mail, first check your mail with a valid
POP account; this prevents unauthorized SPAM relaying. (#5.7.1)
Any clue?
Thanks
Regards,
Nelson.
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Hi,
I am trying to install qmail-scanner, but it
requires the QMAILQUEUE patch to be installed. I followed the link on qmail.org,
but I found a text that looks like mail message with attachment. Can anybody
answer how to download and install the patch?
Thank you in advance,
Milen
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